Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hi Sandy, This sounds interesting. Besides dh snoring, I wonder if it might help ds with lip closure. He finds it very difficult to close his mouth and is always got his mouth wide open, both whilst asleep and awake, he suffers from dry mouth, sore throats and cracked lips. He seems to have very weak mouth/lip muscles but I was wondering if it would be easy to use with a child. Did you get yours in the UK? emily > > Another new gadget we are trying out (not Eddie as yet) is the Lip > Trainer. Very early days but I think I like it ...hoping to stop > mouth breathing for me (it's so very unhealthy at night). > > http://www.liptrainer.com/ > > It's expensive for what it is - it's like a dummy. You have to try > to close your lips - very hard at first. REALLY good face exercise. > Early days but it seems it's having a good effect for me. Need to do > 3 mins 4 times a day - very undignified and makes you drool!. Will > post if it works. > > Lots of claims for improving blood flow etc after stroke etc. - only > a few before/afters though but they look good. > > (Pink for women, blue for men and green for children). > > Best wishes, > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hi , We imported :-( - it cost a bit in customs too and then a few pounds for customs admin. It looks like it might help some with droopy mouths - there were just a few impressive improvement pics of a boy or two with Down's - with their mouths looking normal after. I think it might be a bit unpleasant if you've got cracked lips but you don't stretch the lips other than to get it inside. We're still using ours - I'm increasingly sure it has made a difference to my upper lip control. I used to always show my gums when I smiled - like a horse :-)!! I can't remember when I started to do this - I didn't as a child - must have been in my late teens? Now, after all these years, I don't seem to be doing it so much. My dentist said once I had a " short upper lip " - but now after face exercises and this liptrainer I feel like I have to make an effort if I want to smile like that. All quite interesting. Mind I'm still mouth breathing at night!! No progress there but I'll keep at it ... Best wishes, sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thank you Sandy. :-) > > Hi , > > We imported :-( - it cost a bit in customs too and then a few pounds > for customs admin. > > It looks like it might help some with droopy mouths - there were just > a few impressive improvement pics of a boy or two with Down's - with > their mouths looking normal after. I think it might be a bit > unpleasant if you've got cracked lips but you don't stretch the lips > other than to get it inside. > > We're still using ours - I'm increasingly sure it has made a > difference to my upper lip control. I used to always show my gums > when I smiled - like a horse :-)!! I can't remember when I started > to do this - I didn't as a child - must have been in my late teens? > Now, after all these years, I don't seem to be doing it so much. My > dentist said once I had a " short upper lip " - but now after face > exercises and this liptrainer I feel like I have to make an effort if > I want to smile like that. All quite interesting. Mind I'm still > mouth breathing at night!! No progress there but I'll keep at it ... > > Best wishes, > sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Sara I asked my husband as he is the expert not me! He said that you are supposed to breathe through the nose as there are structures in there (turbinates) that slow the air flow, correct the pressure, keep the air moist, clean and warm, stop infections, remove inpurities in the air. Buteyko also believe that mouth breathing causes you to take in too much air and causes hyperventilation, this decreases CO2 in the bloodstream which causes lots of other problems (e.g. changes acidity of blood). The Buteyko breathing increases CO2 in the bloodstream. They believe that asthma is a defence mechansim against hyperventilation. He reckons that the exercises contribute to better breathing but don't always cure asthma - at least it didn't for him but he has met people for whom it worked. He used 3M surgical tape and says it didn't hurt. It did give me great pleasure for many months though! Seriously, I slept better when he taped his mouth because without it he was a really loud breather and would wake me up. He also says that your nose should not be blocked - this is not normal. For him, diet makes a big difference (removing most dairy and gluten as well as other things on his allergy testing), as well as nasal spray and biomedical for infection control/immune boosting/inflammation etc. He has also had to have surgery twice. The first time he had a polypectomy, then more recently had his turbinates reduced. This made a huge difference for him. Hope that helps To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Moroza-@...Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:40:27 +0000Subject: Re: Re: LipTrainer - Sandy Hi ,I want to ask you the same question I asked Sandy. If you are breathing through your mouth for a reason, i.e. I think I breathe through my mouth because I frequently have a blocked nose then this wouldn't be good, would it? (I'm asthmatic and would like to give this a go)Sara McReynolds wrote:>> Hi Sandy> > This looks really useful, I might get one for but I doubt > Sebastien would go for it.> > I wondered if you have ever looked into the Buteyko Breathing Method? > did this for a few years and one of the things he had to do > was tape his mouth closed at night when sleeping. He did this for > about three years I think then was able to sleep with his mouth closed > without the tape and still does. I'm not sure about any toxic effects > of the tape he used, this was before our obsession with toxicity (ie > before children!). It is designed mainly for asthma but the concept > might help to train you to sleep with your mouth closed? There are > also exercises to do to control breathing, it has a good success rate > for asthma but didn't work for .> > Best wishes> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------->> To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: sandyandtimendofthetunnel (DOT) co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:43:19 +0000> Subject: Re: LipTrainer - Sandy>>> Hi ,>> We imported :-( - it cost a bit in customs too and then a few pounds> for customs admin.>> It looks like it might help some with droopy mouths - there were just> a few impressive improvement pics of a boy or two with Down's - with> their mouths looking normal after. I think it might be a bit> unpleasant if you've got cracked lips but you don't stretch the lips> other than to get it inside.>> We're still using ours - I'm increasingly sure it has made a> difference to my upper lip control. I used to always show my gums> when I smiled - like a horse :-)!! I can't remember when I started> to do this - I didn't as a child - must have been in my late teens?> Now, after all these years, I don't seem to be doing it so much. My> dentist said once I had a "short upper lip" - but now after face> exercises and this liptrainer I feel like I have to make an effort if> I want to smile like that. All quite interesting. Mind I'm still > *mouth breathing at night!! No progress there but I'll keep at it ...>> Best wishes,> sandy>>> *> *> *> ----------------------------------------------------------> *BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day. Search now > <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/> *> * *> * * BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day. Search now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Thank you , I really appreciate that. I have a lot of work to do on myself and haven't even started yet. A good night's sleep might be a good place to start - Tom's at my mum's house tonight so you never know. (I'm saving this message for future reference along with Anita's yamoa tips and my adrenal dynamite) Sara x McReynolds wrote: > > Hi Sara > > I asked my husband as he is the expert not me! He said that > you are supposed to breathe through the nose as there are structures > in there (turbinates) that slow the air flow, correct the pressure, > keep the air moist, clean and warm, stop infections, remove inpurities > in the air. Buteyko also believe that mouth breathing causes you to > take in too much air and causes hyperventilation, this decreases CO2 > in the bloodstream which causes lots of other problems (e.g. changes > acidity of blood). The Buteyko breathing increases CO2 in the > bloodstream. They believe that asthma is a defence mechansim against > hyperventilation. He reckons that the exercises contribute to better > breathing but don't always cure asthma - at least it didn't for him > but he has met people for whom it worked. > > He used 3M surgical tape and says it didn't hurt. It did give me > great pleasure for many months though! Seriously, I slept better when > he taped his mouth because without it he was a really loud breather > and would wake me up. > > He also says that your nose should not be blocked - this is not > normal. For him, diet makes a big difference (removing most dairy and > gluten as well as other things on his allergy testing), as well as > nasal spray and biomedical for infection control/immune > boosting/inflammation etc. He has also had to have surgery twice. > The first time he had a polypectomy, then more recently had his > turbinates reduced. This made a huge difference for him. > > Hope that helps > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: Moroza-@... > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:40:27 +0000 > Subject: Re: Re: LipTrainer - Sandy > > > Hi , > I want to ask you the same question I asked Sandy. If you are breathing > through your mouth for a reason, i.e. I think I breathe through my mouth > because I frequently have a blocked nose then this wouldn't be good, > would it? (I'm asthmatic and would like to give this a go) > Sara > > McReynolds wrote: > > > > Hi Sandy > > > > This looks really useful, I might get one for but I doubt > > Sebastien would go for it. > > > > I wondered if you have ever looked into the Buteyko Breathing Method? > > did this for a few years and one of the things he had to do > > was tape his mouth closed at night when sleeping. He did this for > > about three years I think then was able to sleep with his mouth closed > > without the tape and still does. I'm not sure about any toxic effects > > of the tape he used, this was before our obsession with toxicity (ie > > before children!). It is designed mainly for asthma but the concept > > might help to train you to sleep with your mouth closed? There are > > also exercises to do to control breathing, it has a good success rate > > for asthma but didn't work for . > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe > > > From: sandyandtim@... > > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:43:19 +0000 > > Subject: Re: LipTrainer - Sandy > > > > > > Hi , > > > > We imported :-( - it cost a bit in customs too and then a few pounds > > for customs admin. > > > > It looks like it might help some with droopy mouths - there were just > > a few impressive improvement pics of a boy or two with Down's - with > > their mouths looking normal after. I think it might be a bit > > unpleasant if you've got cracked lips but you don't stretch the lips > > other than to get it inside. > > > > We're still using ours - I'm increasingly sure it has made a > > difference to my upper lip control. I used to always show my gums > > when I smiled - like a horse :-)!! I can't remember when I started > > to do this - I didn't as a child - must have been in my late teens? > > Now, after all these years, I don't seem to be doing it so much. My > > dentist said once I had a " short upper lip " - but now after face > > exercises and this liptrainer I feel like I have to make an effort if > > I want to smile like that. All quite interesting. Mind I'm still > > *mouth breathing at night!! No progress there but I'll keep at it ... > > > > Best wishes, > > sandy > > > > > > * > > * > > * > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > *BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day. Search now > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ > <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/>> * > > * * > > * * > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day. 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