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My best guess is L Glutamine, isn't it an excitotoxin?

Fantastic supplement for the gut, transformed 's BM's etc, after a while he was absolutely raging on it, think he had it long enough to move things a long but could go no further because of these meltdowns.

We were using different supplements to you so I would strongly suspect the L-Glutamine.

Vicky

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My best guess is L Glutamine, isn't it an excitotoxin?

Fantastic supplement for the gut, transformed 's BM's etc, after a while he was absolutely raging on it, think he had it long enough to move things a long but could go no further because of these meltdowns.

We were using different supplements to you so I would strongly suspect the L-Glutamine.

Vicky

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Just to update- it's still going on a full week in, a mega meltdown every day,

no particular

trigger, different times of day, different places, but always after school.

Epsom baths back

on the last two nights and no improvement. Any ideas? Sx

>

> Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega meltdowns this

> week; he

> hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT, enzymes,

> no-phenol,

> GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

>

> 4 things have happened;

>

> I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases absorbtion is it

> possible it's

> icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him? It's a very

samll

> amount.

>

> We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

>

> On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the first time. I

> only did it that

> day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely it wouldn't

go

> on this long?

>

> His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this is a big

> stress for him,

> he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to her well in

> school so I'm

> surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

>

> He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but I wouldn't

> normally give

> them.

>

> If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he lost it in

the

> local shop/

> road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> Sx

>

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fwiw I would stop glutamine. Also ask maybe he is having some new foods at school, or find out if they’ve had new lights, carpets, wall paints etc lately??

natasa

Just to update- it's still going on a full week in, a mega meltdown every day, no particular

trigger, different times of day, different places, but always after school. Epsom baths back

on the last two nights and no improvement. Any ideas? Sx

>

> Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega meltdowns this

> week; he

> hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT, enzymes,

> no-phenol,

> GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

>

> 4 things have happened;

>

> I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases absorbtion is it

> possible it's

> icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him? It's a very samll

> amount.

>

> We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

>

> On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the first time. I

> only did it that

> day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely it wouldn't go

> on this long?

>

> His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this is a big

> stress for him,

> he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to her well in

> school so I'm

> surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

>

> He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but I wouldn't

> normally give

> them.

>

> If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he lost it in the

> local shop/

> road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> Sx

>

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fwiw I would stop glutamine. Also ask maybe he is having some new foods at school, or find out if they’ve had new lights, carpets, wall paints etc lately??

natasa

Just to update- it's still going on a full week in, a mega meltdown every day, no particular

trigger, different times of day, different places, but always after school. Epsom baths back

on the last two nights and no improvement. Any ideas? Sx

>

> Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega meltdowns this

> week; he

> hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT, enzymes,

> no-phenol,

> GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

>

> 4 things have happened;

>

> I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases absorbtion is it

> possible it's

> icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him? It's a very samll

> amount.

>

> We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

>

> On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the first time. I

> only did it that

> day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely it wouldn't go

> on this long?

>

> His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this is a big

> stress for him,

> he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to her well in

> school so I'm

> surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

>

> He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but I wouldn't

> normally give

> them.

>

> If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he lost it in the

> local shop/

> road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> Sx

>

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I was going to say the say. Glutamine is a big 'no no' according to

Yasko. DAN! doctors use it though. Also you may get something positive

out of this - if he is reacting this badly to the glutamine then he may

do very well on GABA.

Try to borrow Yasko's book which I've forgotten the title of but

something to do with 'autism puzzle' from the TA library. The bit about

glutamine is right near the beginning.

hope that helps,

Sara

Neno/Natasa wrote:

>

>

> fwiw I would stop glutamine. Also ask maybe he is having some new

> foods at school, or find out if they’ve had new lights, carpets,

> wall paints etc lately??

>

>

> natasa

>

>

> Just to update- it's still going on a full week in, a mega

> meltdown every day, no particular

> trigger, different times of day, different places, but always

> after school. Epsom baths back

> on the last two nights and no improvement. Any ideas? Sx

>

>

> >

> > Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega

> meltdowns this

> > week; he

> > hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT,

> enzymes,

> > no-phenol,

> > GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

> >

> > 4 things have happened;

> >

> > I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases

> absorbtion is it

> > possible it's

> > icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him?

> It's a very samll

> > amount.

> >

> > We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

> >

> > On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the

> first time. I

> > only did it that

> > day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely

> it wouldn't go

> > on this long?

> >

> > His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this

> is a big

> > stress for him,

> > he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to

> her well in

> > school so I'm

> > surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

> >

> > He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but

> I wouldn't

> > normally give

> > them.

> >

> > If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he

> lost it in the

> > local shop/

> > road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> > Sx

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm certainly no expert, but if you are using GSE for maintenance and

when yeast is no longer present it is like using an anti-biotic, a

scorched earth policy I often liken it to, it is very useful but can

lead to a bacterial overgrowth if overused, this may or not be the

situation in your case but a possibility.

Kenny

> Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega

meltdowns this

> week; he

> hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT,

enzymes,

> no-phenol,

> GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

>

> 4 things have happened;

>

> I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases

absorbtion is it

> possible it's

> icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him? It's

a very samll

> amount.

>

> We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

>

> On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the

first time. I

> only did it that

> day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely

it wouldn't go

> on this long?

>

> His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this

is a big

> stress for him,

> he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to her

well in

> school so I'm

> surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

>

> He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but I

wouldn't

> normally give

> them.

>

> If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he

lost it in the

> local shop/

> road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> Sx

>

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I'm certainly no expert, but if you are using GSE for maintenance and

when yeast is no longer present it is like using an anti-biotic, a

scorched earth policy I often liken it to, it is very useful but can

lead to a bacterial overgrowth if overused, this may or not be the

situation in your case but a possibility.

Kenny

> Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega

meltdowns this

> week; he

> hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT,

enzymes,

> no-phenol,

> GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

>

> 4 things have happened;

>

> I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases

absorbtion is it

> possible it's

> icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him? It's

a very samll

> amount.

>

> We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

>

> On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the

first time. I

> only did it that

> day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely

it wouldn't go

> on this long?

>

> His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this

is a big

> stress for him,

> he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to her

well in

> school so I'm

> surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

>

> He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but I

wouldn't

> normally give

> them.

>

> If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he

lost it in the

> local shop/

> road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> Sx

>

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Thanks Guys, I'll drop the glutamine, I started it again as he was recommended

it by a doc

here to increase his low muscle tone and I felt the tone was slipping again.

The GSE is a maintenance for yeast and any kind of fruit or juice or sugar sees

a yeast

flare up if he's not taking it. I keep the sugars to a bare minimum of course .

I might try

dropping it to one drop see if that keeps it in check. Sx

> I'm certainly no expert, but if you are using GSE for maintenance and

> when yeast is no longer present it is like using an anti-biotic, a

> scorched earth policy I often liken it to, it is very useful but can

> lead to a bacterial overgrowth if overused, this may or not be the

> situation in your case but a possibility.

>

> Kenny

>

> > Hi, I'm having trouble pinpointing the cause of my sons mega

> meltdowns this

> > week; he

> > hasn't had one for months now this week every day. He's on SNT,

> enzymes,

> > no-phenol,

> > GSE, GFCFSF, L-glutamine, cal/mag.

> >

> > 4 things have happened;

> >

> > I intro'd the l-glutamine about 6 days ago- if this increases

> absorbtion is it

> > possible it's

> > icreasing his intake of the Supernuthera and overloading him? It's

> a very samll

> > amount.

> >

> > We've had water trouble so no epsom salts baths all week.

> >

> > On sunday I tried him with a quarter of a Folapro tablet for the

> first time. I

> > only did it that

> > day as I noticed he was off. I have heard of reactions but surely

> it wouldn't go

> > on this long?

> >

> > His SNA has broken her leg and is out for 6 weeks since mon- this

> is a big

> > stress for him,

> > he hates change, but he does like the new one and has taken to her

> well in

> > school so I'm

> > surprised it's going on so long so badly at home.

> >

> > He did have a few apples last week and seemed ok at the time but I

> wouldn't

> > normally give

> > them.

> >

> > If anything stands out as the problem here please let me know, he

> lost it in the

> > local shop/

> > road/car today for about 20 mins :o/

> > Sx

> >

>

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