Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Our son and I have both been trying the Houston enzymes. I'm fine with then but our son has the following reactions:Zyme Prime - good for his BMs but he feels itchy and scratches himselfNo Fenol - 4 hours later he starts behaving very strangely, gets very upset and can't control his mood.We both have candida. Do you think our son's reactions to the enzymes are due to candida die off? >>Yes most probably If so, one solution is to take charcoal but I don't know when I should give it to him - with the enzyme / several hours after the enzyme / when he's had the reaction? >>>Away from enzymes (or other supplements) by one hour either side or the charcoal which is indiscriminate will soak up those as well. Another question: Is it good to have a reaction? If I'm not getting one, does that mean I should up the dose of my enzymes? >>No. Are you seeing improvements in stools, less bloating? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Hi I don't know how long you have been taking enzymes but it can take up to 3 possibly 4 weeks before enzymes are tolerated without obvious adverse side effects. Kenny > Our son and I have both been trying the Houston enzymes. I'm fine > with then but our son has the following reactions: > Zyme Prime - good for his BMs but he feels itchy and scratches himself > No Fenol - 4 hours later he starts behaving very strangely, gets very > upset and can't control his mood. > > We both have candida. Do you think our son's reactions to the enzymes > are due to candida die off? If so, one solution is to take charcoal > but I don't know when I should give it to him - with the enzyme / > several hours after the enzyme / when he's had the reaction? > > Another question: Is it good to have a reaction? If I'm not getting > one, does that mean I should up the dose of my enzymes? > > Thanks for any help, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Thanks Mandi and Kenny for the replies. We've only been trying the enzymes for a short while and we've stopped them with our son for the time being because of the side effects. We'll try again in the Xmas holidays when it will be easier to give our son active charcoal one hour after the enzymes and to monitor the reactions. At the moment with school and after school stuff, it's hard to fit everything in and I daren't take any risks with mood swings etc. Actually, I thought I didn't get side effects from enzymes but I realise now that I do. I'm taking Tri-enza and I think it's making me feel a bit hyper and anxious. So charcoal for me too. Thanks again, > > In a message dated 12/12/2008 21:20:17 GMT Standard Time, > cathyinbarcelona@... writes: > > Our son and I have both been trying the Houston enzymes. I'm fine > with then but our son has the following reactions: > Zyme Prime - good for his BMs but he feels itchy and scratches himself > No Fenol - 4 hours later he starts behaving very strangely, gets very > upset and can't control his mood. > > We both have candida. Do you think our son's reactions to the enzymes > are due to candida die off? > >>Yes most probably > > If so, one solution is to take charcoal > but I don't know when I should give it to him - with the enzyme / > several hours after the enzyme / when he's had the reaction? > >>>Away from enzymes (or other supplements) by one hour either side or the > charcoal which is indiscriminate will soak up those as well. > > > > Another question: Is it good to have a reaction? If I'm not getting > one, does that mean I should up the dose of my enzymes? > > > > >>No. Are you seeing improvements in stools, less bloating? > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 > > > > In a message dated 12/12/2008 21:20:17 GMT Standard Time, > > cathyinbarcelona@ writes: > > > > Our son and I have both been trying the Houston enzymes. I'm fine > > with then but our son has the following reactions: > > Zyme Prime - good for his BMs but he feels itchy and scratches > himself > > No Fenol - 4 hours later he starts behaving very strangely, gets > very > > upset and can't control his mood. > > > > We both have candida. Do you think our son's reactions to the > enzymes > > are due to candida die off? > > >>Yes most probably > > > > If so, one solution is to take charcoal > > but I don't know when I should give it to him - with the enzyme / > > several hours after the enzyme / when he's had the reaction? > > >>>Away from enzymes (or other supplements) by one hour either > side or the > > charcoal which is indiscriminate will soak up those as well. > > > > > > > > Another question: Is it good to have a reaction? If I'm not > getting > > one, does that mean I should up the dose of my enzymes? > > > > > > > > >>No. Are you seeing improvements in stools, less bloating? > > > > Mandi x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Actually, I thought I didn't get side effects from enzymes but I realise now that I do. I'm taking Tri-enza and I think it's making me feel a bit hyper and anxious. So charcoal for me too. >>Hyper is a common reaction, did you introduce them slowly? Oftentimes stopping for a few days and then reintroducing slowly helps you get over the hump. Do you think you may have yeast issues as well? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Actually, I thought I didn't get side effects from enzymes but I realise now that I do. I'm taking Tri-enza and I think it's making me feel a bit hyper and anxious. So charcoal for me too. >>Hyper is a common reaction, did you introduce them slowly? Oftentimes stopping for a few days and then reintroducing slowly helps you get over the hump. Do you think you may have yeast issues as well? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 hi mandi, xxxnina Subject: Re: Re: When to take charcoalTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 6:48 PM In a message dated 14/12/2008 14:10:51 GMT Standard Time, cathyinbarcelona@ yahoo.es writes: Actually, I thought I didn't get side effects from enzymes but I realise now that I do. I'm taking Tri-enza and I think it's making me feel a bit hyper and anxious. So charcoal for me too. >>Hyper is a common reaction, did you introduce them slowly? Oftentimes stopping for a few days and then reintroducing slowly helps you get over the hump. Do you think you may have yeast issues as well? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 hi mandi, xxxnina Subject: Re: Re: When to take charcoalTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 6:48 PM In a message dated 14/12/2008 14:10:51 GMT Standard Time, cathyinbarcelona@ yahoo.es writes: Actually, I thought I didn't get side effects from enzymes but I realise now that I do. I'm taking Tri-enza and I think it's making me feel a bit hyper and anxious. So charcoal for me too. >>Hyper is a common reaction, did you introduce them slowly? Oftentimes stopping for a few days and then reintroducing slowly helps you get over the hump. Do you think you may have yeast issues as well? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hyper is a common reaction, did you introduce them slowly? Oftentimes stopping for a few days and then reintroducing slowly helps you get over the hump. Do you think you may have yeast issues as well? Mandi x Hi Mandi, Yes, I have yeast issues and all the other biomedical problems which my son has. Over the summer I tried out the enzymes and followed the protocol of intoducing them very slowly - then I didn't get a reaction. As I'd done that, I started taking Trienza full dose but with hindsight that was probably a mistake as there was a lapse of about 6 weeks. I think I'll start again with both of us. Next question: how much activated charcoal should We take? It comes in capsules of 225mg. Thank you for your help, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I don't know how long you have been taking enzymesbut it can take up to 3 possibly 4 weeks before enzymes are tolerated without obvious adverse side effects. Kenny Thanks Kenny. That was one of the questions I had as well. If the itches are just temporary then he / we can put up with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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