Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Thanks for this information, Bill.... it certainly is food for thought. I'm still not convinced that S/S is a bad material to use, however, I intend to make my brews a little more acidic (as I like the taste). Therefore, I think I might change to glass or ceramic to be on the safe side, since the acid might just react with the steel. I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them <LOL>. I'm sure that if somebody with a pottery were to make them, they would be run off their feet with orders. Regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries Evening Pangie I have a 2000 edition of the Bartholomew's book and I could not mention stainless steel as a brewing container. The only place I've seen it recommended is at Gunter 's site and in newer versions of his books. I really question if stainless steel has not gotten a bad reputation by association with metal containers. There has been real improvement in stainless steel in the past 10 years. My personal opinion which may on the list will disagree with is that high quality stainless particularly that designed for beer making would be okay for fermentation. The one thing that does some what bothers me is that I can find no research that states that it has been tested. With the research has done on Kombucha I would not think he would recommend if it had not been tested (personal opinion). On the other hand Roussin specifically look for toxins from plastics and in " Analyses of Kombucha Ferments " , He makes two references to plastics. On page 30 he states " No toxins were found in the Kombucha fermented in Tupperware " and on page 31, " The lesson here is that " baggies " are not suitable for storing Kombucha tea or Kombucha colonies for more than a few days. " At <http://health.groups.yahoo com/group/original_kombucha/files/Kombucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/>http //health.groups.yahoo com/group/original_kombucha/files/Kombucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/ under Plastics the he states, " Well, we've looked at Kombucha in pop bottles, Kombucha in Tupperware, Kombucha in " food grade plastic fermenting containers " , and Kombucha in plastic in general. So far, it's a personal choice, glass or plastic does not effect the ferment, and does not provide petrochemicals in solution. That's both ferment and storage. " Wish I could fins something similar for Stainless Steel Bill >Hello There > >I'm from South Wales, fairly new to brewing Kombucha and have a few >questions about it. > >Question on the Container: I saw that somebody said here that they did not >recommend using stainless steel as a brewing container. I am very confused, >as I have bought and am using an expensive two-gallon stainless steel >container, after a recommendation from a book. > >Before buying all the equipment, I followed directions in the book: >Kombucha Tea For Your Health and Healing: The Most In-depth Guide Available >by Alick & Mari Bartholomew. This book was recommended as one of the best >on the market by the Kombucha Website. The book states that you can use >glass, ceramic, or stainless steel. Since I could not find a suitable >container in glass or ceramic, I decided on stainless steel. So, are the >experts in this group saying that we should NOT using stainless steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hi Bill and EveryOne, There is a file in the FILES section of the list homepage about Plastics and Kombucha. As I recall there is some information in there about Plastic and estrogen mimics and their may be links too. Here is a link on the subject which is in the links section of the list homepage. https://ssl.thegreenguide.com/reports/prodprem.mhtml?id=44 Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev - In original_kombucha , Bill Fieszel wrote: > > Hi V > > Interesting enough he did find toxin from baggie use ship SCOBE and > KT that had been stored for what about 30 days? I know you've > recommended a certain type in the past that you feel is safe. I agree > with you about not accepting this research or for that fact any > single research as the last word. What one research project find and > other normally finds a condition. I pass it along as the most current > research done in the area that I'm aware of. I know nothing about > estrogen mimicker but would to gain some knowledge. Can you point me > to some good sites on the subject? > > Bill > > > > > > >At > > ><<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/original_kombucha/files/Komb > > ucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/original\ _kombucha/files/Kombucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/>http://health.groups.yaho\ o.com/group/original_kombucha/files/Kombucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/ > > > > > > > >under Plastics the he states, " > > >Well, we've looked at Kombucha in pop bottles, Kombucha in > > >Tupperware, Kombucha in " food grade plastic fermenting containers " , > > >and Kombucha in plastic in general. So far, it's a personal choice, > > >glass or plastic does not effect the ferment, and does not provide > > >petrochemicals in solution. That's both ferment and storage. " > > > >And I have stated that labs find what labs look for. The issue with > >plastics is not so much petrochemicals, but estrogen mimickers. I doubt > >very much that is what Roussin looked for, and when I have asked him to > >clarify, I have heard no word. I do not think these statements should be > >taken as assurance that plastics are safe. Plastics are > >questionable. Plastics are not made for constant contact with highly > >acidic liquids. Kombucha is much more acidic than beer. I caution people > >against accepting this research as the last word. > > > >--V > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > >--A.J. Muste > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hi Bill and EveryOne, There is a file in the FILES section of the list homepage about Plastics and Kombucha. As I recall there is some information in there about Plastic and estrogen mimics and their may be links too. Here is a link on the subject which is in the links section of the list homepage. https://ssl.thegreenguide.com/reports/prodprem.mhtml?id=44 Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev - In original_kombucha , Bill Fieszel wrote: > > Hi V > > Interesting enough he did find toxin from baggie use ship SCOBE and > KT that had been stored for what about 30 days? I know you've > recommended a certain type in the past that you feel is safe. I agree > with you about not accepting this research or for that fact any > single research as the last word. What one research project find and > other normally finds a condition. I pass it along as the most current > research done in the area that I'm aware of. I know nothing about > estrogen mimicker but would to gain some knowledge. Can you point me > to some good sites on the subject? > > Bill > > > > > > >At > > ><<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/original_kombucha/files/Komb > > ucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/original\ _kombucha/files/Kombucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/>http://health.groups.yaho\ o.com/group/original_kombucha/files/Kombucha%20Threads/Kombucha%20Threads/ > > > > > > > >under Plastics the he states, " > > >Well, we've looked at Kombucha in pop bottles, Kombucha in > > >Tupperware, Kombucha in " food grade plastic fermenting containers " , > > >and Kombucha in plastic in general. So far, it's a personal choice, > > >glass or plastic does not effect the ferment, and does not provide > > >petrochemicals in solution. That's both ferment and storage. " > > > >And I have stated that labs find what labs look for. The issue with > >plastics is not so much petrochemicals, but estrogen mimickers. I doubt > >very much that is what Roussin looked for, and when I have asked him to > >clarify, I have heard no word. I do not think these statements should be > >taken as assurance that plastics are safe. Plastics are > >questionable. Plastics are not made for constant contact with highly > >acidic liquids. Kombucha is much more acidic than beer. I caution people > >against accepting this research as the last word. > > > >--V > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > >--A.J. Muste > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 >Yes Joyce, > You are correct. I work part time in a winery and I have >been making beer and wine for 10+ years. Both beer and wine are aged >in Stainless steel. The beers that are fermented with Lactobacillus >cannot be stored in stainles and therefore must be fermented in Glass >or better yet, wooden barrels. The acid in the beer and the Kombucha >will attack the steel and cause bad off flavors. > > Thank you . Chemically, if off-flavors are generated, by definition molecules of the metal are involved. People don't want molecules of metal in their kombucha. As I said earlier, kombucha is a highly acidic liquid, unlike wine or most beers, with the exception of the ones you've described. Much appreciate the input. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 In message <45D38871.00002C.01196@PANGIE> you wrote: > Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at > least a gallon without letting in too much light. Ah, Pangie, some time ago I found a plain glass vase at the Wilcos hardware store which can hold 5 litres plus = about a gallon. It's my favourite brewing vessel. I also brew in an assortment of 2 and 3 1/2 litre glass jars, plus several 5 litre buckets which I purchased from a Kombucha supplier. These are foodgrade 1 very stable plastic containers which have never given me any trouble. Although I do prefer brewing in glass, because of the quantities I brew I need to resort to my buckets as well. BTW, although direct sunlight is not ideal for the brew, light is not a bad thing for it, so there is no need to jump into dark cupboards ;-). > > ......I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like > to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it > is just going to take a little time. Well, Pangie, I'm laughing to myself ;-) After about 20 years I am still experimenting and twigging things and trying to 'perfect' things, and I've come to the conclusion : It's an eternal learning process we can learn to enjoy and share with others and not taking ourselves too seriously :-) A culture's going to hit Wales pretty soon, no fear! Happy bubbles, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.Gotquestions.org +---------------------------------------------------------------+ A Saviour not quite God is a bridge broken at the Fa®ther end. (Bishop Handley Moule) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Mmmm... maybe they found out that S/S is not so safe after all. I think I'm going to look for a replacement. I guess it is better to be safe than sorry Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at least a gallon without letting in too much light. I really appreciate your advice... it has helped me tremendously. This group is awesome. Without it, I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it is just going to take a little time. Kindest regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries Hi Pangie Here is the link for 's site: http://www.kombu.de/english.htm. His reference to Stainless steel is under " How to make your own Kombucha Tea " step 5. Your right there is reference to Stainless Steel in the section " Which Container to Use? " .I find it interesting that the Bartholomew's have changed this section to read: " Stainless steel is probably not a good material to use as a container, as cheaper types can discolour the liquid. " I would gather from that and the change from your 1999 edition that high quality Stainless may be okay to use. Another thing I find interesting is the comment in the same section: " They have a very small opening at the top, are usually made from plastic and are definitely not suitable for Kombucha tea, as it will leach toxins(even from food grade plastic). " This is in direct contrast to what Roussin's findings. His site is: http://kombucha-research.com/. Best Bill >Hello Bill > >Mmmm.... I am using the 1999 edition. It is on page 37 entitled " What >Container to Use? " I'll quote from the book: > > " It is possible to use any large container without a tap like a ceramic >bread crock or enamel container (without chips). You will have to scoop out >your liquid from the top of the container with a ladle or jug which, >although not quite so convenient, is no grea hardship either " . > >The same guidelines apply to these larger containers as in the Batch Brewing >Method, so no aluminium or plastic. Stainless steel is a good material to >use as a container, they are easy to buy if not expensive " . > >The container I am using is actually a large bread bin with a lid (which I >don't use). It is quite a heavy gauge. > >Is it possible to give me the link to Gunter 's site? I would be very >interested to see what he says about using S/S. Very interesting >information on using Tuppaware and food-grade plastics. It is not that I >would want to use this type of container but when you have no access to >large glass or ceramic containers, it is good to know that food-grade >plastics will not effect the brew. > >I shall check out the links you have sent.... I would like to learn as much >as I can about all the things that can or cannot affect Kombucha cultures. > >Regards >Pangie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Mmmm... maybe they found out that S/S is not so safe after all. I think I'm going to look for a replacement. I guess it is better to be safe than sorry Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at least a gallon without letting in too much light. I really appreciate your advice... it has helped me tremendously. This group is awesome. Without it, I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it is just going to take a little time. Kindest regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries Hi Pangie Here is the link for 's site: http://www.kombu.de/english.htm. His reference to Stainless steel is under " How to make your own Kombucha Tea " step 5. Your right there is reference to Stainless Steel in the section " Which Container to Use? " .I find it interesting that the Bartholomew's have changed this section to read: " Stainless steel is probably not a good material to use as a container, as cheaper types can discolour the liquid. " I would gather from that and the change from your 1999 edition that high quality Stainless may be okay to use. Another thing I find interesting is the comment in the same section: " They have a very small opening at the top, are usually made from plastic and are definitely not suitable for Kombucha tea, as it will leach toxins(even from food grade plastic). " This is in direct contrast to what Roussin's findings. His site is: http://kombucha-research.com/. Best Bill >Hello Bill > >Mmmm.... I am using the 1999 edition. It is on page 37 entitled " What >Container to Use? " I'll quote from the book: > > " It is possible to use any large container without a tap like a ceramic >bread crock or enamel container (without chips). You will have to scoop out >your liquid from the top of the container with a ladle or jug which, >although not quite so convenient, is no grea hardship either " . > >The same guidelines apply to these larger containers as in the Batch Brewing >Method, so no aluminium or plastic. Stainless steel is a good material to >use as a container, they are easy to buy if not expensive " . > >The container I am using is actually a large bread bin with a lid (which I >don't use). It is quite a heavy gauge. > >Is it possible to give me the link to Gunter 's site? I would be very >interested to see what he says about using S/S. Very interesting >information on using Tuppaware and food-grade plastics. It is not that I >would want to use this type of container but when you have no access to >large glass or ceramic containers, it is good to know that food-grade >plastics will not effect the brew. > >I shall check out the links you have sent.... I would like to learn as much >as I can about all the things that can or cannot affect Kombucha cultures. > >Regards >Pangie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Mmmm... maybe they found out that S/S is not so safe after all. I think I'm going to look for a replacement. I guess it is better to be safe than sorry Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at least a gallon without letting in too much light. I really appreciate your advice... it has helped me tremendously. This group is awesome. Without it, I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it is just going to take a little time. Kindest regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries Hi Pangie Here is the link for 's site: http://www.kombu.de/english.htm. His reference to Stainless steel is under " How to make your own Kombucha Tea " step 5. Your right there is reference to Stainless Steel in the section " Which Container to Use? " .I find it interesting that the Bartholomew's have changed this section to read: " Stainless steel is probably not a good material to use as a container, as cheaper types can discolour the liquid. " I would gather from that and the change from your 1999 edition that high quality Stainless may be okay to use. Another thing I find interesting is the comment in the same section: " They have a very small opening at the top, are usually made from plastic and are definitely not suitable for Kombucha tea, as it will leach toxins(even from food grade plastic). " This is in direct contrast to what Roussin's findings. His site is: http://kombucha-research.com/. Best Bill >Hello Bill > >Mmmm.... I am using the 1999 edition. It is on page 37 entitled " What >Container to Use? " I'll quote from the book: > > " It is possible to use any large container without a tap like a ceramic >bread crock or enamel container (without chips). You will have to scoop out >your liquid from the top of the container with a ladle or jug which, >although not quite so convenient, is no grea hardship either " . > >The same guidelines apply to these larger containers as in the Batch Brewing >Method, so no aluminium or plastic. Stainless steel is a good material to >use as a container, they are easy to buy if not expensive " . > >The container I am using is actually a large bread bin with a lid (which I >don't use). It is quite a heavy gauge. > >Is it possible to give me the link to Gunter 's site? I would be very >interested to see what he says about using S/S. Very interesting >information on using Tuppaware and food-grade plastics. It is not that I >would want to use this type of container but when you have no access to >large glass or ceramic containers, it is good to know that food-grade >plastics will not effect the brew. > >I shall check out the links you have sent.... I would like to learn as much >as I can about all the things that can or cannot affect Kombucha cultures. > >Regards >Pangie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Wow! Well, there you go. Looks like there will be a S/S container on sale on e-Bay very soon <LOL>. Thank you so much for your input, I really appreciate it. Regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries Yes Joyce, You are correct. I work part time in a winery and I have been making beer and wine for 10+ years. Both beer and wine are aged in Stainless steel. The beers that are fermented with Lactobacillus cannot be stored in stainles and therefore must be fermented in Glass or better yet, wooden barrels. The acid in the beer and the Kombucha will attack the steel and cause bad off flavors. " Wish I could find something similar for Stainless Steel " > > Would there be something to be found by exploring how SS is used in > winemaking? There is a lot of storing and aging in SS isn't there? > > Joyce > Dallas TX > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Wow! Well, there you go. Looks like there will be a S/S container on sale on e-Bay very soon <LOL>. Thank you so much for your input, I really appreciate it. Regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries Yes Joyce, You are correct. I work part time in a winery and I have been making beer and wine for 10+ years. Both beer and wine are aged in Stainless steel. The beers that are fermented with Lactobacillus cannot be stored in stainles and therefore must be fermented in Glass or better yet, wooden barrels. The acid in the beer and the Kombucha will attack the steel and cause bad off flavors. " Wish I could find something similar for Stainless Steel " > > Would there be something to be found by exploring how SS is used in > winemaking? There is a lot of storing and aging in SS isn't there? > > Joyce > Dallas TX > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Mmmm.... hadn't thought of that. I could buy a giant pickle onion jar (the wholesale ones), give the onions away and then use the jar. It would probably be much cheaper than buy the jar in a store by iteself! Thanks so much, ! -- Re: Kombucha Queries I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Mmmm.... hadn't thought of that. I could buy a giant pickle onion jar (the wholesale ones), give the onions away and then use the jar. It would probably be much cheaper than buy the jar in a store by iteself! Thanks so much, ! -- Re: Kombucha Queries I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Mmmm.... hadn't thought of that. I could buy a giant pickle onion jar (the wholesale ones), give the onions away and then use the jar. It would probably be much cheaper than buy the jar in a store by iteself! Thanks so much, ! -- Re: Kombucha Queries I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Well one thing for sure..... I shan't be looking at food containers in the same light as I used to <LOL>. Now, when I buy food, I shall be thinking Kombucha brewing " ! LOL Thanks also on the information about light. I've got my container on a kitchen surface with a muslin top and then a teatowel over that (with just enough open to let some air in). I thought it was really important not to get too much light but I see that is not the case. Thank you for the baby scobie... I look forward to receiving it very soon. ) Kindest regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries In message <45D38871.00002C.01196@PANGIE> you wrote: > Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at > least a gallon without letting in too much light. Ah, Pangie, some time ago I found a plain glass vase at the Wilcos hardware store which can hold 5 litres plus = about a gallon. It's my favourite brewing vessel. I also brew in an assortment of 2 and 3 1/2 litre glass jars, plus several 5 litre buckets which I purchased from a Kombucha supplier. These are foodgrade 1 very stable plastic containers which have never given me any trouble. Although I do prefer brewing in glass, because of the quantities I brew I need to resort to my buckets as well. BTW, although direct sunlight is not ideal for the brew, light is not a bad thing for it, so there is no need to jump into dark cupboards ;-). > > ......I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like > to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it > is just going to take a little time. Well, Pangie, I'm laughing to myself ;-) After about 20 years I am still experimenting and twigging things and trying to 'perfect' things, and I've come to the conclusion : It's an eternal learning process we can learn to enjoy and share with others and not taking ourselves too seriously :-) A culture's going to hit Wales pretty soon, no fear! Happy bubbles, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.Gotquestions.org +---------------------------------------------------------------+ A Saviour not quite God is a bridge broken at the Fa®ther end. (Bishop Handley Moule) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Well one thing for sure..... I shan't be looking at food containers in the same light as I used to <LOL>. Now, when I buy food, I shall be thinking Kombucha brewing " ! LOL Thanks also on the information about light. I've got my container on a kitchen surface with a muslin top and then a teatowel over that (with just enough open to let some air in). I thought it was really important not to get too much light but I see that is not the case. Thank you for the baby scobie... I look forward to receiving it very soon. ) Kindest regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries In message <45D38871.00002C.01196@PANGIE> you wrote: > Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at > least a gallon without letting in too much light. Ah, Pangie, some time ago I found a plain glass vase at the Wilcos hardware store which can hold 5 litres plus = about a gallon. It's my favourite brewing vessel. I also brew in an assortment of 2 and 3 1/2 litre glass jars, plus several 5 litre buckets which I purchased from a Kombucha supplier. These are foodgrade 1 very stable plastic containers which have never given me any trouble. Although I do prefer brewing in glass, because of the quantities I brew I need to resort to my buckets as well. BTW, although direct sunlight is not ideal for the brew, light is not a bad thing for it, so there is no need to jump into dark cupboards ;-). > > ......I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like > to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it > is just going to take a little time. Well, Pangie, I'm laughing to myself ;-) After about 20 years I am still experimenting and twigging things and trying to 'perfect' things, and I've come to the conclusion : It's an eternal learning process we can learn to enjoy and share with others and not taking ourselves too seriously :-) A culture's going to hit Wales pretty soon, no fear! Happy bubbles, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.Gotquestions.org +---------------------------------------------------------------+ A Saviour not quite God is a bridge broken at the Fa®ther end. (Bishop Handley Moule) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Well one thing for sure..... I shan't be looking at food containers in the same light as I used to <LOL>. Now, when I buy food, I shall be thinking Kombucha brewing " ! LOL Thanks also on the information about light. I've got my container on a kitchen surface with a muslin top and then a teatowel over that (with just enough open to let some air in). I thought it was really important not to get too much light but I see that is not the case. Thank you for the baby scobie... I look forward to receiving it very soon. ) Kindest regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries In message <45D38871.00002C.01196@PANGIE> you wrote: > Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at > least a gallon without letting in too much light. Ah, Pangie, some time ago I found a plain glass vase at the Wilcos hardware store which can hold 5 litres plus = about a gallon. It's my favourite brewing vessel. I also brew in an assortment of 2 and 3 1/2 litre glass jars, plus several 5 litre buckets which I purchased from a Kombucha supplier. These are foodgrade 1 very stable plastic containers which have never given me any trouble. Although I do prefer brewing in glass, because of the quantities I brew I need to resort to my buckets as well. BTW, although direct sunlight is not ideal for the brew, light is not a bad thing for it, so there is no need to jump into dark cupboards ;-). > > ......I think I would have continued to make mistakes. I would like > to perfect my brew and make it the best I can.... it > is just going to take a little time. Well, Pangie, I'm laughing to myself ;-) After about 20 years I am still experimenting and twigging things and trying to 'perfect' things, and I've come to the conclusion : It's an eternal learning process we can learn to enjoy and share with others and not taking ourselves too seriously :-) A culture's going to hit Wales pretty soon, no fear! Happy bubbles, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.Gotquestions.org +---------------------------------------------------------------+ A Saviour not quite God is a bridge broken at the Fa®ther end. (Bishop Handley Moule) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Pangie wrote: " I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them <LOL>. " Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I started brewing in a three quart glass jar from WalMart -- it comes with a glass cover, but I use a tight weave dishtowel and a rubber band because there is a nice groove at the top of the jar. When I needed something larger, I went to the 12 quart glass jar in the same line and used it the same way. Then Costco was selling tulips growing in a glass jar in water, and when we finished with the tulips, I kept the jar: it is about six quarts and can be used the same way. I hope these jars are suitable for brewing: they certainly have been serving us well. Joyce Dallas TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Pangie wrote: " I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them <LOL>. " Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I started brewing in a three quart glass jar from WalMart -- it comes with a glass cover, but I use a tight weave dishtowel and a rubber band because there is a nice groove at the top of the jar. When I needed something larger, I went to the 12 quart glass jar in the same line and used it the same way. Then Costco was selling tulips growing in a glass jar in water, and when we finished with the tulips, I kept the jar: it is about six quarts and can be used the same way. I hope these jars are suitable for brewing: they certainly have been serving us well. Joyce Dallas TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Pangie wrote: " Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at least a gallon without letting in too much light. " I find the large dish towels hang over the side of the clear glass and keep it fairly dark. In addition, following someone's suggestion on this list, we brew in the half bath, which is seldom used and usually dark. I didn't realize that it was the light through glass that you were objecting to. Thanks for clarifying. Joyce Dallas TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Pangie wrote: " Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at least a gallon without letting in too much light. " I find the large dish towels hang over the side of the clear glass and keep it fairly dark. In addition, following someone's suggestion on this list, we brew in the half bath, which is seldom used and usually dark. I didn't realize that it was the light through glass that you were objecting to. Thanks for clarifying. Joyce Dallas TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I'll certainly have to think about this. Of course, I live in the UK, so they might not use the same time of thing as they do in the States. I will certainly be on the lookout for containers from now on. Regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I'll certainly have to think about this. Of course, I live in the UK, so they might not use the same time of thing as they do in the States. I will certainly be on the lookout for containers from now on. Regards Pangie -- Re: Kombucha Queries I keep my eye out at 2nd hand stores and yard sales for gallon jars. I have not spent a lot of money for my brewing jars. Of course, I realize if you don't have anything, they can be a rare find. Costco type stores sell pickles etc in large gallon jars. Possibly you could get some jars from a local restaurant or deli. Good luck I only wish there was a place to buy Kombucha containers and which you don't need to take out a second mortage to pay for them . Regards Pangie --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 >Pity they are so hard to come by. I want something that can hold at least a >gallon without letting in too much light. The light really does not seem to be an issue. Plus, you can use a large cloth as your cover cloth that also covers the vessel. Mine are lightweight white floursacking type cloths that are tightly woven. In the summer my vessels get a few minutes of direct rays and the brews seem to love just those few minutes. For sure, I have noticed no trouble at all with the light in our kitchen, and we have big greenhouse windows. I use large 2.25 gallon glass containers (they are made by Anchor Hocking as cookie jars). I'm sorry that these don't seem to be available in other countries than the USA. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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