RE: Importance of food being raw...

[Guest guest]

>>> Yes for lycopene, but the vitamin C in tomatoes gets destroyed by heat.

>>Wouldn't you probably get much more vitamin C from a plate ful of steamed kale

than from a handful of raw tomatoes? >>

But here is the same issue of heat destroying the vit C through steaming. So

Heidi's suggestion of fermented would be much better.

Filippa

[Guest guest]

Fermented veggies contain more vitamin C than the ingredient vegetables.

The beneficial bacteria make additional vitamin C.

Bruce

From: " Filippa "

> But here is the same issue of heat destroying the vit C through steaming. So

Heidi's suggestion of fermented would be much

better.

>

> Filippa

[Guest guest]

@@@@@ Blake/Elainie:

> > Then how can you explain the rashes I got all over my legs, arms

and

> > neck, etc., which only went away as soon as I switched to entirely

> > raw foods (and which appeared once I switched off of the standard

> > American diet)?

> >

>

> Because you removed harmful foods from your diet. It's that simple

an answer

> IMO.

> Many people get positive results with various diets coming off a

SAD diet.

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I tend to agree with Elainie here. I mean, when people make major

dietary shifts there are so many variables at play; the correlation

with " raw " and rashes or whatever doesn't imply causation at all. It

can't be divorced from a dozen other variables... And many people

experience none of those " detox " effects at all... I ate a SAD (but

with no health problems) till I was about 25 years old and then made

major dietary changes, winding up with a 80+% raw NT diet (with lots

of raw milk, raw meat, and raw veggies) in less than a year of

nutritional exploration, and I've eaten this way for a over a year

now... At no point in time have I ever experienced anything remotely

resembling " detox " or anything negative associated with food or any

effect whatsoever--just zero effect or change on *anything* (except

my dietary arrogance :-) ). (Well, no negative experiences except for

a few times in the overzealous newbie pre-NT days when I felt

abdominal discomfort after eating 2 pounds of raw veggies in one

setting :-) I figured that one out pretty quickly!). And I ate

*plenty* of the worst, awful SAD foods for many years, so presumably

my body was very " toxic " :-) [i just don't buy into that absolutist

AV toxin fear-mongering thing...]

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

[Guest guest]

>

> > BTW.. you mentioned caffeine.  Out of curiousity, do proponents of

> > the Weston Price Foundation avoid caffeine even in it's natural

> > forms; tea, cocoa, etc...?

>

I do avoid it as much as possible. I do however get green tea cravings

sometimes.

Elainie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Deanna-

>Isn't calcium (among other nutrients) not available from the juice of

>vegetables?

I've never heard that and I can't see why it would be so, but I suppose

some nutrients are bound to remain with the pulp. The bigger danger

probably comes from the heat and oxygenation involved in juicing, and I

imagine if you use a really high-quality juicer and drink the juice

immediately, you'd actually be increasing the nutrient availability of the

vegetable -- all else being equal, of course. Factors like oxcalic acid

must still be considered, and juicing will inevitably increase the glycemic

index and resulting insulin hit of pretty much anything you juice.

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