Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 This is a continuation of our earlier conversation on the marital relationship and the husband's " headship " . Could you or someone else who's well versed in Christianity address this? you were talking about how the marital relationship is symbolic of the Christ/church relationship and said that it's not a *differential* power relationship but rather reflects a " flow " of power between the parties involved. However, C.S. apparently disagrees with you (in terms of the marital relationship), so one of you is wrong, and I'd like to know which one. If is correct, then I did not insert my own assumptions into my understanding of the marital relationship, since my understanding is exactly as describes. refers to a power *differential* in the marital relationship and goes on to describe in blatantly sexist terms why the wife is not the head. I'd like to know if he's simply projecting his own sexist worldview on the reason he says that the husband is the obvious choice for the " headship " or if this accurately reflects Christian thought. This is an absolutely sincere question as I'm trying to get a better understanding of the Christian worldview. Here are the pertinent excerpts from " Mere Christianity " : " Christian wives promise to obey their husbands. In Christian marriage the man is said to be the " head. " Two questions obviously arise here. (1) Why should there be a head at all - why not equality? (2) Why should it be the man? " then goes on to explain why he believes there needs to be head. At the end of his explanation as to what needs to happen when wife and husband disagree on a matter he writes: " Surely only one or other of two things can happen: either they must separate and go their own ways or else one or the other of them must have a casting vote. If the marriage is permanent, one or the other party must, in the last resort, have the ****power**** of deciding the family policy... " Now, you said there is no power differential, but clearly is saying the man has the " casting " vote and has the " power " (his words) of deciding family policy. (That was my understanding of the relationship from the get-go. Although I think I have a fuller understanding of the relationship now, aside from the power differential) Or is he wrong? Is this just his personal misinterpretation of the marriage relationship? Or were you wrong in your explanation of there being no power differential? Now here is ' explanation of why the clear choice for headship is the man. " (2) If there must be a head, why the man? Well, firstly, is there any serious wish that it should be the woman? As I have said, I am not married myself, but as far as I can see, even a woman who wants to be the head of her own house does not usually admire the same state of things when she finds it going on next door. She is much more likely to say " Poor Mr. X! Why he allows that appalling woman to boss him about the way she does is more than I can imagine. " I do not think she is even very flattered if anyone mentions the fact of her own " headship " . There must be something unnatural about the rule of wives over husbands, because the wives themselves are half ashamed of it and despise the husbands whom they rule. But there is also another reason and you can see from outside even better than from inside. The relations of the family to the outer world - what might be called its foreign policy - must depend, in the last resort, upon the man, because he always ought to be, and usually is, much more just to the outsiders. A woman is primarily fighting for her own children and husband against the rest of the world. Naturally, almost, in a sense, rightly, their claims override, for her, all other claims. She is the special trustee of their interests. The function of the husband is to see that this natural preference of hers is not given its head. He has the last word in order to protect other people from the intense family patriotism of the wife. If anyone doubts this, let me ask a simple question. If your dog has bitten the child next door, or if your child has hurt the dog next door, which would you sooner have to deal with, the master of that house or the mistress? Or, if you hare a married woman, let me ask you this question. Much as you admire your husband, would you not say that his chief failing is his tendency not to stick up for his rights and yours against the neighbours as vigorously as you would like? A bit of an Appeaser? " Not even getting into the utter lack of evidence provided for his claims other than his own thoughts on how (all?) married women think and act (and I think much of this para is an excellent example of claims based on poor scholarship or no scholarship), does this represent the official Christian view (if there is one) on why men are the head of marital relationships? Or is projecting his own sexist views onto the Church's and erroneously implying it's the Christian perspective? Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. 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