Re: Warrior diet while nursing

[Guest guest]

Anyone nursing and following it? I need to lose these 20 pounds... I just

don't feel like myself with this weight on.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

What is the Warrior Diet?

Amy, wife to my dear husband Steve, home schooling Mom to 16 wonderful

blessings from God (2 homegrown, 14 adopted)and praying for more!!

[Guest guest]

http://www.warriordiet.com/about.html (all about the warrior diet)

http://www.lightlink.com/lark/interm (scientific evidence in support of Warrior

Diet)

RE: Warrior diet while nursing

What is the Warrior Diet?

[Guest guest]

>for me it's

>definitely grain related though i can eat white rice

>and i can also eat potatoes. i am curious about the

>theory about having one meal where you can eat all you

>want. seems too good to be true almost as i'd

>definitely like to do that if i could stay lean and

>still eat grains! (probably evidence that i'm

>addicted, LOL)

Well, as the official " glutenator " I have to tell

you that WBR grains (Wheat/Barley/Rye) are really,

really iffy no matter what your diet.

That said, I've been on the WD for awhile now

and have lost 20 lbs. I'm almost down to my

pre-pregnancy weight, for the first time in

10 years, and a LOT stronger.

The WD does several things:

1. Increases your immunity

2. Decreases your time in the kitchen

3. Puts your cortisol/insulin under control

I have found I've been able to eat carbs/potatoes

etc. and still lose weight, albeit slowly. Lately

I've cut carbs a bit more, and increased my coconut

oil fats, and am losing quicker. But it's a worthwhile diet

for a lot of reasons ... I think it replicates the " normal "

diet for humans much more than our " eat all day long "

strategy that has been touted recently. The mice

on the feast/fast diet plan (they only get food

every other day) live longer and have more ability

to withstand stress than mice who get all the food

they want.

As for nursing, I really can't say. I never produced

enough milk, probably because I had low body

fluids due to Sjogren's syndrome at the time (I also

had dry eyes and sore joints and no saliva). Now THAT

cleared up when I lost the gluten, but potatoes and

rice seem ok ... but not in time for nursing, unfortunately.

However, many cultures have the " one meal a day " plan

and their Mom's seem to have nursed successfully, so

it SHOULD work. I'd take it slow though ... any big change

in diet suddenly can affect milk supply.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/24/04 11:26:07 PM, hjillcoy@... writes:

> hey e,

> this is kind of off-topic because i'm not nursing but

> i'm wondering about the warrior diet....i was telling

> my boyfriend about it and he wanted to try it out

> since lots of times he doesn't eat until evening

> anyway.  so my question is just this:  is a

> weight-loss diet primarily?  that's not what i got

> from the book but i only skimmed it.  i'll have to

> check that out again from the library.  i too don't

> feel like myself with extra weight.  for me it's

> definitely grain related though i can eat white rice

> and i can also eat potatoes.  i am curious about the

> theory about having one meal where you can eat all you

> want.  seems too good to be true almost as i'd

> definitely like to do that if i could stay lean and

> still eat grains!  (probably evidence that i'm

> addicted, LOL)

>

>

hey H,

I only skimmed the bok and that was some time ago. I'm off to buy it today.

I can't read the website off the net on WD as it hurts my eyes to read too

much on the net.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

i tried but found i couldn't get the knack. i'm low-carbing instead and

that is working really well. i only have 8 more pounds (from 60!! that i

gained during pregnancy!!) to go!

i may try warrior diet again in the future, though...

-katja

At 07:25 PM 3/24/2004, you wrote:

>Anyone nursing and following it? I need to lose these 20 pounds... I just

>don't feel like myself with this weight on.

>

>Elainie

[Guest guest]

i should have clarified - i only tried it for a week, and we established

that i was undereating a bit too much, but still i had no appreciable

decrease in milk. i'd take it slow too, just to be sure, but i wouldn't at

all worry about it being " dangerous "

-katja

At 11:51 PM 3/24/2004, you wrote:

>As for nursing, I really can't say. I never produced

>enough milk, probably because I had low body

>fluids due to Sjogren's syndrome at the time (I also

>had dry eyes and sore joints and no saliva). Now THAT

>cleared up when I lost the gluten, but potatoes and

>rice seem ok ... but not in time for nursing, unfortunately.

>However, many cultures have the " one meal a day " plan

>and their Mom's seem to have nursed successfully, so

>it SHOULD work. I'd take it slow though ... any big change

>in diet suddenly can affect milk supply.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/25/04 2:26:27 PM, heidis@... writes:

>

> Spelt is an early form of wheat, no good. Kamut is ok, I THINK but I get

> the grains mixed up. Buckwheat, millet, sorghum, quinoa are ok. (Buckwheat

> isn't even a grass, it is related to rhubarb).

>

Heidi,

I always thought kamut was related to wheat but it is the only *wheat* like

grain my husband doesn't react to.

Elainie

>

>

[Guest guest]

>wow, thanks heidi. i have to say, that number 2

>reason certainly sounds appealing!!

That's my big one! Esp. since I can't eat out easily any more ... I used

to have to bring a big bag of food everwhere, now I just

pack an apple, maybe some dried fish. I was always afraid of

my blood sugar crashing, but it doesn't anymore.

>i'm glad to hear that rice and potatoes seem okay. i

>think i could really live without grains if i can eat

>those two. now, when you say WBR, does that include

>spelt, kamut, etc.?

Spelt is an early form of wheat, no good. Kamut is ok, I THINK but I get

the grains mixed up. Buckwheat, millet, sorghum, quinoa are ok. (Buckwheat

isn't even a grass, it is related to rhubarb).

Rice you do have to be careful ... they are beginning to use

" vegetable starch " instead of talc as a flow agent, and I'm

pretty sure some of that starch is wheat. Also " enriched "

rice sometimes has vitamins derived from wheat and gives

people problems. I use Basmati from Costco, after talking

to the company ... besides we like it alot.

> i'm sorry to say that i think

>those might be causing trouble for me as well.....all

>skin stuff cleared for awhile but now my ears are

>flaking and peeling and i think i need to remove those

>products as well.

Ouch. Keeping a food diary helps!

>thanks for writing this, my interest is definitely

>piqued again and i'm looking forward to getting the

>book. do you follow it pretty strictly?

Since the book says something to the effect " do whatever works

for you " I guess you can say I'm following it! I keep tweaking

it depending on how I'm feeling and what I'm craving. Ori says

once your appetite " heals " you will tend to crave the things you

need, and eat the amount you need. I also use some of the Cliff

Sheats and Paleo ideas .... more protein means a higher metabolism,

and coconut oil REALLY cranks up your metabolism. I had to cut

out most nuts though, to lose weight ... nuts are very good

for you, but extremely high calorie. I'm trying to get more of my

fats from coconut oil, less from other sources. Also I allow

myself a " day off " now and then, like when we go out to eat,

(rarely!) and then I have a big lunch instead of dinner. I try to

concentrate on MEAT and then vegies, and last carbs. But some

days all I want is a big dish of hash browns, so that's what I have.

Now you are nursing, and not very sedentary, I think, so you will

probably NEED more food and might find it easier to lose.

BTW speaking of eating out, in Seattle there is now a gluten-free

restaurant that has good food.. It's called Kaili's kitchen .... we went there

yesterday

and I had a big dish of fish and chips ... my hubby had a plate

of pasta alfredo.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

What about organic rice? It's one of those foods I have a severe reaction to

(organic brown soaked and cooked in stock) pulse goes up, get nauseated, feel

faint, like vomiting etc.. etc..

Elainie

[Guest guest]

hi,

i think you've gotten me mixed up with elainie, she's the new mama

wow, this is very interesting about the rice. i occassionally eat white rice at

a few korean restaurants and indian, too and i have very much noticed that there

have been times when i've felt very bloated and other times i feel completely

fine, which bewildered me. that must be what it is.

thanks for all the info.

heather

Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote:

>wow, thanks heidi. i have to say, that number 2

>reason certainly sounds appealing!!

That's my big one! Esp. since I can't eat out easily any more ... I used

to have to bring a big bag of food everwhere, now I just

pack an apple, maybe some dried fish. I was always afraid of

my blood sugar crashing, but it doesn't anymore.

>i'm glad to hear that rice and potatoes seem okay. i

>think i could really live without grains if i can eat

>those two. now, when you say WBR, does that include

>spelt, kamut, etc.?

Spelt is an early form of wheat, no good. Kamut is ok, I THINK but I get

the grains mixed up. Buckwheat, millet, sorghum, quinoa are ok. (Buckwheat

isn't even a grass, it is related to rhubarb).

Rice you do have to be careful ... they are beginning to use

" vegetable starch " instead of talc as a flow agent, and I'm

pretty sure some of that starch is wheat. Also " enriched "

rice sometimes has vitamins derived from wheat and gives

people problems. I use Basmati from Costco, after talking

to the company ... besides we like it alot.

> i'm sorry to say that i think

>those might be causing trouble for me as well.....all

>skin stuff cleared for awhile but now my ears are

>flaking and peeling and i think i need to remove those

>products as well.

Ouch. Keeping a food diary helps!

>thanks for writing this, my interest is definitely

>piqued again and i'm looking forward to getting the

>book. do you follow it pretty strictly?

Since the book says something to the effect " do whatever works

for you " I guess you can say I'm following it! I keep tweaking

it depending on how I'm feeling and what I'm craving. Ori says

once your appetite " heals " you will tend to crave the things you

need, and eat the amount you need. I also use some of the Cliff

Sheats and Paleo ideas .... more protein means a higher metabolism,

and coconut oil REALLY cranks up your metabolism. I had to cut

out most nuts though, to lose weight ... nuts are very good

for you, but extremely high calorie. I'm trying to get more of my

fats from coconut oil, less from other sources. Also I allow

myself a " day off " now and then, like when we go out to eat,

(rarely!) and then I have a big lunch instead of dinner. I try to

concentrate on MEAT and then vegies, and last carbs. But some

days all I want is a big dish of hash browns, so that's what I have.

Now you are nursing, and not very sedentary, I think, so you will

probably NEED more food and might find it easier to lose.

BTW speaking of eating out, in Seattle there is now a gluten-free

restaurant that has good food.. It's called Kaili's kitchen .... we went there

yesterday

and I had a big dish of fish and chips ... my hubby had a plate

of pasta alfredo.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>Heidi,

>I always thought kamut was related to wheat but it is the only *wheat* like

>grain my husband doesn't react to.

>Elainie

Apparently it *is* related to wheat ... spelt and kamut might contain LESS

gluten

and it depends on what kind of reaction a person has. Some people

really do only react to wheat though. Or they may not have a

discernible reaction in some cases but may be reacting internally.

The IgE and IgG reactions are usually more obvious, while the IgA

one is usually invisible, and a person can have some combination

of them. A lot of people with an IgE reaction to wheat can eat

rye ok.

-- Heidi

http://www.foodsubs.com/GrainKamut.html

kamut® brand wheat Notes: This ancient grain is related to durum wheat, and

was reintroduced to the world after an American found some kernels of it in an

Egyptian tomb. It's high in protein and has a sweet, buttery flavor. Though it

contains gluten, it's tolerated by many people with gluten allergies.

Substitutes: spelt OR wheat

[Guest guest]

:

>hi,

>i think you've gotten me mixed up with elainie, she's the new mama

Ooops! Don't want to saddle you with an extra kid ...

>wow, this is very interesting about the rice. i occassionally eat white rice at

a few korean restaurants and indian, too and i have very much noticed that there

have been times when i've felt very bloated and other times i feel completely

fine, which bewildered me. that must be what it is.

What's hard is that when you call the companies to check, they often don't speak

English. Most of the American-grown rice is enriched.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>Heidi,

>What about organic rice? It's one of those foods I have a severe reaction to

>(organic brown soaked and cooked in stock) pulse goes up, get nauseated, feel

>faint, like vomiting etc.. etc..

>

>Elainie

For some reason, " brown rice " is often listed on the " don't have's " for celiacs.

I don't know WHY though. I do know it gave my son diarrhea too, and the

rest of us didn't feel real good on it either, so I went back to plain ol'

white. Could be other stuff in the bran. Also rice contains glutenin, which

is also found in wheat, and a lot of people are allergic to glutenin rather

than gliadin (or, on top of). Or maybe those Asians invented rice polishers

for a reason ... rice bran makes better chicken feed than people feed.

However, they also use " flow agents " for rice. The flow agent will

vary by factory and they are not required to list it on the label. Dates

very often have a dusting of flour, which they use on the date equipment.

And one of my favorite places, Jaffe's, uses the same equipment to

bag their flour as the rest of their items, so when I order dried coconut

I order 25 lbs so I get it in the " original " bag. Bulk foods have similar

problems -- never buy from bulk food bins!

Or maybe the " organic " farm is in California under the jet paths <g>

I grew up in LA, and the planes landed every couple of minutes ... they

dumped their jet fuel before landing ... on the lettuce fields, from the

sounds of it ...

-- Heidi Jean