Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Hi, For a few years Sam (6) has been taking supplements and as he has alot of sensory problems in the mouth, he only likes dry food. He does drink water though. I seem to spend my life trying to get sam to take supplements, mixed in etc and have spent so much money doing this Anyway, I went to see and she told me to try giving sam water in a glass with a straw, putting capsule on the tongue and the capsule will go right back. I did it this morning and he took all his supplements fpr the first time in one go!!!!! I cant believe it! Lets hope i get the same result tomorrow!!! Kirsty x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Eileen if ya get this great to see you today and well hope to see you again soon, funny old world, mandi met eileen today by chance xsee ya soon mand its been a long time gonna need to call ya any how as i have some more folks for ya and a few questions xxxx Subject: Re: Re: capsulesTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Sunday, 18 January, 2009, 3:00 PM Hi I started with my son when he was 5. Before that everything used to be added/emptied onto his food. It looked like I had emptied the vacuum cleaner and must have tasted terrible. So I sold the idea of swallowing capsules as taking away the nasty tasting things off his food. I was very lucky as he mastered it without ever chewing any of the capsules. Mind you he is able to swallow lots of food without properly chewing it! However I still struggle with my 7 year old NT son, who has a strong gag reflex and just can't or won't swallow them. Kay. [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Re: capsules Hi on the subject of swallowing capsules, those of you who have children that can-what age did you start trying to teach them and how did you go about it? Ella has just turned 4, but is on vba programme, so responds well to promised reinforcement. She currently takes everything off a spoon bless(it tastes gross!!)> >> > Anita, > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't a > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that.> > Margaret> > > > Hi Margaret,> > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-)> > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the capsule, > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left with > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, but > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take capsules > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no problem.> > Anita> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi, Our son is non verbal and we started when he was around 3 years and a half old. We started with very very small capsules and hidding them on fruit puree so he didn't realize he was actually swallowing a capsule. After doing this for sometime we tried with bigger capsules again hidden in fruit puree. Now we just put water and a capsule in a teaspoon and he swallows the capsule with no problem. We give him something he likes at the end of all his supplements. I have to say that I'm always impressed because I would have trouble swallowing the big ones. In our case I think it was important that at the beginning he didn't see the capsule and from then a question of practice. In case it helps they sell in pharmacies small empty capsules which may be good to start with. HIH, Begona To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 15:14:30Subject: Re: capsules Thanks guys-I guess you just have to try, I may have probs, cos she likes her food mainly blended-but can eat chips and crisps and fruit!! Shes clever but non-verbal(learning sign)at the momment so its hard to judge her understanding, I may have to wait until her receptive is a little better, so I can explain to her. Unless anyone has managed with a non verbal child? > > >> > > Anita, > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't a > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that.> > > Margaret> > > > > > > Hi Margaret,> > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-)> > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the capsule, > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left > with > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, but > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > capsules > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > problem.> > > > Anita> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi, My son is on the scd diet and only likes what i call " dry food " I have just started to do a clear out with oxypowder and he will not take any food with the powder in. I have tried giving him capsules, he gags, i have tried two syringes of it mixed with OJ tonight but he gagged, spat it out and then i gave him water which he swallowed and then threw up. Now he wont take any of his other supplements which was put on top of food (he has accepted this for a few years!) Is there anyone out there who was in a similar situation, i dont mind if you email me off the forum. I just really need to sort this as so far the program is not going well for us and he really needs to start taking his stuff, esp the oxypowder. (i nearly called it poxypowder then, freudian slip!) Any help will be most grateful as at wits end and feeling extremley stressed and alone with this as i know no one who even has their child on any form of diet. Thanks Kirsty xx Ps. Sam is 6 and verbal but v smart and v strong willed and there is no pulling the wool over his eyes! Canot explain and reason with him as his language is not that good > > > > > > > > Anita, > > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't > a > > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-) > > > > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the > capsule, > > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left > > with > > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, > but > > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > > capsules > > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > > problem.. > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I melt Green and Black's 70% cocoa dark chocolate - one square per coffee cup, put the cup in a bain marie to melt the chocolate, take it out and away from the heat and mix in 2 caps of oxypowder per cup. It's important the chocolate is just barely melted and not hot. Then I let it set in the fridge. He happily eats his gritty chocolate. Not an ideal solution... but there you go. Margaret and > > > > > > > > > > Anita, > > > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't > > a > > > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that. > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > > > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-) > > > > > > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the > > capsule, > > > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left > > > with > > > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, > > but > > > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > > > capsules > > > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > > > problem.. > > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 My friend's son is like yours in that he only likes dry food. She mixes the supps with a tiny amount of water or juice in shot glasses. He downs the contents for a reward. (Keep the best toy/ video/ computer game or whatever for this) In fact he does it for no reward nowadays, Sara mcollins2001uk wrote: > > I melt Green and Black's 70% cocoa dark chocolate - one square per > coffee cup, put the cup in a bain marie to melt the chocolate, take > it out and away from the heat and mix in 2 caps of oxypowder per cup. > It's important the chocolate is just barely melted and not hot. Then > I let it set in the fridge. He happily eats his gritty chocolate. Not > an ideal solution... but there you go. > Margaret > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > Anita, > > > > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there > isn't > > > a > > > > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that. > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > > > > > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-) > > > > > > > > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the > > > capsule, > > > > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're > left > > > > with > > > > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big > amounts, > > > but > > > > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > > > > capsules > > > > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > > > > problem.. > > > > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 > Thanks guys-I guess you just have to try, I may have probs, cos she > likes her food mainly blended-but can eat chips and crisps and > fruit!! Shes clever but non-verbal(learning sign)at the momment so > its hard to judge her understanding, I may have to wait until her > receptive is a little better, so I can explain to her. Unless anyone > has managed with a non verbal child? hi yes, managed it with eddie (non-verbal with words emerging at the moment). taught him last year to swallow capsules before signing up with jean muscroft, cos i knew her list of supplements was very long. we used combination of VB (reinforcement) and son-rise (modelling and fun). he soon realised that it was much easier to swallow capsules than taste horrible cocktails! i don't think you ever really know non-verbals receptive language and you can never underestimate, so i would always explain to eddie everything that's happening and assume that he's knows what i'm saying. when he gets it, its a bonus. for example, we've been working on " point to cow " as a receptive command on his program, the therapist was repeating the instruction in between reinforcing activities, after 5 requests he said (and remember he's non-verbal) " i don't care about the cow " !!!!! lol xxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yay!!!! It was so amazing how we bumped into each other - your boys are FAB!!! Take care you've done really well with them, and fought the good fight. Eileen, and xxxx > > > > > > Anita, > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't a > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that. > > > Margaret > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-) > > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the capsule, > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left > with > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, but > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > capsules > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > problem. > > > > Anita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yay!!!! It was so amazing how we bumped into each other - your boys are FAB!!! Take care you've done really well with them, and fought the good fight. Eileen, and xxxx > > > > > > Anita, > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't a > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that. > > > Margaret > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-) > > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the capsule, > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left > with > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, but > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > capsules > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > problem. > > > > Anita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi Pat, How long has your daughter been doing biomed-shes a bit older than mine(her pic is on my profile)? Hey guys Im new but just some positive thoughts - all your hard work is beginning to pay off. Ella was diagnosed at 2 years 4 months by my consultant community paed. No probs with diagnosis-classic autism. When I pressed this consultant re:food allergies, she mentioned GF/CF and Shattock!(mainstream dr)also said biomed hadn't 'cured' any of the children she has seen, but they appear happier and healthy. She is thinking about coming to Bournemouth!! Ella was statemented at 3 and Swansea LEA has funded her VBA home programme(without an appeal), they also fund reinforcers etc I need to buy. I also get direct pmts and help from the NCH-this has enabled me to do a 32hr home programme and only put £1000 of our own funds in this year. Next year the LEA funding goes up as Ella will be in full time eqv banding and we should manage without our funds. This is mainly possible because I have a fantastic VBA consultant who charges minimum rates(no where near £100 per hr). So things are looking up, thanks to the hard work of all you mums that have fought battles and tried to educate the so called professionals!!!!Thank you > > > > > > > > Anita, > > > > That is so clever - to make the capsules so tiny there isn't a > > > > problem with swallowing. I would never have thought of that. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > > > > > It took me 1.5 years to think of it :-) > > > > > > I should have said that I cut only the larger 1/2 of the capsule, > > > making each piece almost the same size. The capsule you're left > > with > > > is the size of a tictac. It won't work for giving big amounts, > but > > > for stuff like GSE or OoO, it does the trick. DS can't take > > capsules > > > with water, but this size capsule with something thick is no > > problem. > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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