Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Risca, This is just my 2 cents worth........ I had trigeminal neuralgia 4 years ago and the pain was phenomenal. It occured right after dental treatment. It was later discovered that one of the treated teeth upset my overall bite such that everytime I bit down, the tooth jiggled slightly. The dentist shaved a millimeter off and the entire pain went. Can you maybe trace these problems to a dental treatment (eg an amalgam placement) you had? The fact that serotonin helped is a puzzle. Migraines are indicative usually of HIGH serotonin. So supplementing would technically make them worse. risca18 schrieb: > > Hi all, > > I need some help for myself.... > > I suffered with severe migraines (loss of speech, loss of sight in > one eye, loss of feeling in one side of body, severe headache etc) > for many years, with the doctors not having much success at stopping > them. I then discovered 5htp 6 years ago, have been taking one 50mg > tablet a day since and haven't had a migraine for 6 years. However > during a stressfull time 2 years ago I developed migrainous > trigeminal neuralgia, the attack lasted about 3 days and was awful. > The consultant suggested that if I ever had an attack again I > increase the 5htp, I had another attack in March, took 5htp and it > stopped the pain, however I was having to take a 50mg tablet every > four hours approx, but the attack only lasted two days. > Yesterday another attack started, but this time I am having to take > 5htp every 2-3 hours and then it is not totally getting rid of it, > there is some constant low pain and eating makes it much worse. I > have taken 5 already today and the pain is getting really bad now, > starving but dare not eat too! Painkillers do not work on this at all > so they are not an option! > Anyway my question is does anyone know of anything else good for this > condition and can I keep taking as many 5htp as I need? > > Many thanks for any replies! > Risca > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 05/12/2008 19:08 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hi, No it definitely is occuring under much the same conditions as my migraines, ie. when I am stressed and tired! But my migraines ended up becoming very regualar. I have had dental investigations, including x rays to check as the pain has been so bad previously, but nothing there. Interesting about migraines usually being because of high serotonin, if I don't take 5htp for 2 days I start to feel a migraine starting so I know it is the 5htp that is keeping them at bay! When I posted my earlier posting the neuralgia pain was beginning to get really bad so I had to take another one, and hey presto within about an hour the pain is starting to ease, 5htp is making it much better! So it is looking like my migraines and now neuralgia are being caused by low serotonin isn't it? But can 5htp effect whatever system it needs to in the space of an hour? Thanks > > Risca, > > This is just my 2 cents worth........ > > I had trigeminal neuralgia 4 years ago and the pain was phenomenal. It > occured right after dental treatment. It was later discovered that one > of the treated teeth upset my overall bite such that everytime I bit > down, the tooth jiggled slightly. The dentist shaved a millimeter off > and the entire pain went. > > Can you maybe trace these problems to a dental treatment (eg an amalgam > placement) you had? > > The fact that serotonin helped is a puzzle. Migraines are indicative > usually of HIGH serotonin. So supplementing would technically make them > worse. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Okay, another angle... Migraines can also be triggered by surplus amine containing foods, ie bananas, hard cheese and I forget the rest. Can you connect the migraines to any foods? Try epsom salt baths and see if they help.Some people find relief that way but eventually you'll have to find the cause. risca18 schrieb: > > Hi, > > No it definitely is occuring under much the same conditions as my > migraines, ie. when I am stressed and tired! But my migraines ended > up becoming very regualar. > I have had dental investigations, including x rays to check as the > pain has been so bad previously, but nothing there. > > Interesting about migraines usually being because of high serotonin, > if I don't take 5htp for 2 days I start to feel a migraine starting > so I know it is the 5htp that is keeping them at bay! When I posted > my earlier posting the neuralgia pain was beginning to get really bad > so I had to take another one, and hey presto within about an hour the > pain is starting to ease, 5htp is making it much better! So it is > looking like my migraines and now neuralgia are being caused by low > serotonin isn't it? But can 5htp effect whatever system it needs to > in the space of an hour? > > Thanks > > > > > > Risca, > > > > This is just my 2 cents worth........ > > > > I had trigeminal neuralgia 4 years ago and the pain was phenomenal. > It > > occured right after dental treatment. It was later discovered that > one > > of the treated teeth upset my overall bite such that everytime I > bit > > down, the tooth jiggled slightly. The dentist shaved a millimeter > off > > and the entire pain went. > > > > Can you maybe trace these problems to a dental treatment (eg an > amalgam > > placement) you had? > > > > The fact that serotonin helped is a puzzle. Migraines are > indicative > > usually of HIGH serotonin. So supplementing would technically make > them > > worse. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 05/12/2008 19:08 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Okay, another angle... Migraines can also be triggered by surplus amine containing foods, ie bananas, hard cheese and I forget the rest. Can you connect the migraines to any foods? Try epsom salt baths and see if they help.Some people find relief that way but eventually you'll have to find the cause. risca18 schrieb: > > Hi, > > No it definitely is occuring under much the same conditions as my > migraines, ie. when I am stressed and tired! But my migraines ended > up becoming very regualar. > I have had dental investigations, including x rays to check as the > pain has been so bad previously, but nothing there. > > Interesting about migraines usually being because of high serotonin, > if I don't take 5htp for 2 days I start to feel a migraine starting > so I know it is the 5htp that is keeping them at bay! When I posted > my earlier posting the neuralgia pain was beginning to get really bad > so I had to take another one, and hey presto within about an hour the > pain is starting to ease, 5htp is making it much better! So it is > looking like my migraines and now neuralgia are being caused by low > serotonin isn't it? But can 5htp effect whatever system it needs to > in the space of an hour? > > Thanks > > > > > > Risca, > > > > This is just my 2 cents worth........ > > > > I had trigeminal neuralgia 4 years ago and the pain was phenomenal. > It > > occured right after dental treatment. It was later discovered that > one > > of the treated teeth upset my overall bite such that everytime I > bit > > down, the tooth jiggled slightly. The dentist shaved a millimeter > off > > and the entire pain went. > > > > Can you maybe trace these problems to a dental treatment (eg an > amalgam > > placement) you had? > > > > The fact that serotonin helped is a puzzle. Migraines are > indicative > > usually of HIGH serotonin. So supplementing would technically make > them > > worse. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 05/12/2008 19:08 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Thanks , I will try it! So far I have never been able to link them to anything except for stress and tiredness............... Thanks, Risca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Thanks , I will try it! So far I have never been able to link them to anything except for stress and tiredness............... Thanks, Risca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I think Vick's got a lot of experience with migraines. Hopefully she will see this and give you some ideas.... I remember we tried to brainstorm on this a while ago. Maybe you can put 'migraines' into the search engine on the Autism-Biomedical-Europe website and find the postings. Hope you find some relief soon. I was always really worried about overdosing on pain killers... risca18 schrieb: > > Thanks , I will try it! > > So far I have never been able to link them to anything except for > stress and tiredness............... > > Thanks, > Risca > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 05/12/2008 19:08 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 hi risca so sorry to hear about your migraines! a friend of mine was having them at set time in her menstrual cycle and read an article about a link between women having migraines and holes in their hearts. she thought the link was ridiculous, but for some reason, followed through and got it checked, it appeared that she did have a hole in her heart (very tiny) and once it was fixed (quick and easy) she hasn't had one since. i've done a quick google and found lots of info about it, the nhs are doing procedures and have done research on this over the years. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jan/17/health.medicineandhealth cheers karenza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 hi risca so sorry to hear about your migraines! a friend of mine was having them at set time in her menstrual cycle and read an article about a link between women having migraines and holes in their hearts. she thought the link was ridiculous, but for some reason, followed through and got it checked, it appeared that she did have a hole in her heart (very tiny) and once it was fixed (quick and easy) she hasn't had one since. i've done a quick google and found lots of info about it, the nhs are doing procedures and have done research on this over the years. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jan/17/health.medicineandhealth cheers karenza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hi Risca, I just came across this by accident looking up stuff for Ella. My bro-in-law had constant migranes, was related to a trapped nerve or something like that in his back-saw a chiropracter and no more migraines! Don't know if its worth a go-you do a lot of driving maybe youve put something out?Just a thought Lawz xx > > I think Vick's got a lot of experience with migraines. Hopefully she > will see this and give you some ideas.... > > I remember we tried to brainstorm on this a while ago. Maybe you can put > 'migraines' into the search engine on the Autism-Biomedical-Europe > website and find the postings. > > Hope you find some relief soon. I was always really worried about > overdosing on pain killers... > > > > risca18 schrieb: > > > > Thanks , I will try it! > > > > So far I have never been able to link them to anything except for > > stress and tiredness............... > > > > Thanks, > > Risca > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 05/12/2008 19:08 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hi Risca, I just came across this by accident looking up stuff for Ella. My bro-in-law had constant migranes, was related to a trapped nerve or something like that in his back-saw a chiropracter and no more migraines! Don't know if its worth a go-you do a lot of driving maybe youve put something out?Just a thought Lawz xx > > I think Vick's got a lot of experience with migraines. Hopefully she > will see this and give you some ideas.... > > I remember we tried to brainstorm on this a while ago. Maybe you can put > 'migraines' into the search engine on the Autism-Biomedical-Europe > website and find the postings. > > Hope you find some relief soon. I was always really worried about > overdosing on pain killers... > > > > risca18 schrieb: > > > > Thanks , I will try it! > > > > So far I have never been able to link them to anything except for > > stress and tiredness............... > > > > Thanks, > > Risca > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 05/12/2008 19:08 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 > > Hi all, > > I need some help for myself.... > > I suffered with severe migraines (loss of speech, loss of sight in > one eye, loss of feeling in one side of body, severe headache etc) > for many years, with the doctors not having much success at stopping > them. I then discovered 5htp 6 years ago, have been taking one 50mg > tablet a day since and haven't had a migraine for 6 years. However > during a stressfull time 2 years ago I developed migrainous > trigeminal neuralgia, the attack lasted about 3 days and was awful. > The consultant suggested that if I ever had an attack again I > increase the 5htp, I had another attack in March, took 5htp and it > stopped the pain, however I was having to take a 50mg tablet every > four hours approx, but the attack only lasted two days. > Yesterday another attack started, but this time I am having to take > 5htp every 2-3 hours and then it is not totally getting rid of it, > there is some constant low pain and eating makes it much worse. I > have taken 5 already today and the pain is getting really bad now, > starving but dare not eat too! Painkillers do not work on this at all > so they are not an option! > Anyway my question is does anyone know of anything else good for this > condition and can I keep taking as many 5htp as I need? > > Many thanks for any replies! > Risca > Hi Risca, I can thoroughly empathise with you as my sister has suffered since she was 18 and she will be 60 this year. Incase that you are not aware, there is some research on the migrain society website regarding the connection between migraine sufferers and hole in the heart, my sister had tests done it was found that she does have a hole in her heart. There is an operation available but of course there are risk factors & personal circumstances that have to be considered by each individual. My sis cant have the op as her risk factors are too great, she has been on Imigran injections for many years, and has tried various other courses of medication. I will mention to her about 5htp. I hope this is of some help, kind regards Loula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 > > Hi all, > > I need some help for myself.... > > I suffered with severe migraines (loss of speech, loss of sight in > one eye, loss of feeling in one side of body, severe headache etc) > for many years, with the doctors not having much success at stopping > them. I then discovered 5htp 6 years ago, have been taking one 50mg > tablet a day since and haven't had a migraine for 6 years. However > during a stressfull time 2 years ago I developed migrainous > trigeminal neuralgia, the attack lasted about 3 days and was awful. > The consultant suggested that if I ever had an attack again I > increase the 5htp, I had another attack in March, took 5htp and it > stopped the pain, however I was having to take a 50mg tablet every > four hours approx, but the attack only lasted two days. > Yesterday another attack started, but this time I am having to take > 5htp every 2-3 hours and then it is not totally getting rid of it, > there is some constant low pain and eating makes it much worse. I > have taken 5 already today and the pain is getting really bad now, > starving but dare not eat too! Painkillers do not work on this at all > so they are not an option! > Anyway my question is does anyone know of anything else good for this > condition and can I keep taking as many 5htp as I need? > > Many thanks for any replies! > Risca > Hi Risca, I can thoroughly empathise with you as my sister has suffered since she was 18 and she will be 60 this year. Incase that you are not aware, there is some research on the migrain society website regarding the connection between migraine sufferers and hole in the heart, my sister had tests done it was found that she does have a hole in her heart. There is an operation available but of course there are risk factors & personal circumstances that have to be considered by each individual. My sis cant have the op as her risk factors are too great, she has been on Imigran injections for many years, and has tried various other courses of medication. I will mention to her about 5htp. I hope this is of some help, kind regards Loula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Just wanted to say thank you to everyone for your replies. The hole in the heart issue is something that I will look into as the only test I've had done was an MRI. , thanks for your message, I do see an excellent McTimoney Chiropracta as I slipped a disc twice when I was seventeen and could barely walk! As it turned out this lastest attack was not in fact a neuralgia attack......a week after first experiencing the pain, a lump appeared on the roof of my mouth. Visited the dentist, huge abcess, had an hour and a half in the dentist chair whilst they tried to find someway to drain it.......didn't manage to totally drain it and it took 3 courses of antibiotics to sort it out before they could do a root canal. And the only reason it was so bad was because I had let it go on so long because I thought it was a neuralgia attack, should have realised when the 5htp wasn't working! Thanks to everyone though, some really good information for me to look at regarding my migraines. Risca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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