Re: Re: Thyroid tests and ferritin/iron

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Thyroid??

bbrowne123 schrieb:

>

> My son's thyroid results and feritin (may 08)

>

> ferritin: 48 (ref: 18-325)

>

>

> > >

> > > Margaret,

> > >

> > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the

> > important

> > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3

> by

> > the

> > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient

> > country

> > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to over

> > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added

> salt

> > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine.

> > >

> > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me

> or

> > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab

> > reports

> > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3

> > efficiently. I

> > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares

> and

> > I

> > > didn't know a titch about selenium.

> > >

> > > Do you know what your free T3 is?

> > >

> > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural

> > Thyroid

> > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-))

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> > > >

> > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently

> > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is

> tested

> > at

> > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these

> > tests,

> > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless.

> > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour

> > without

> > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive

> > stroke

> > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP

> > had

> > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an

> > annual

> > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT.

> > > > Margaret

> > > >

> > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I

> > have

> > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to

> > convert

> > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has

> > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a

> fitness

> > to

> > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there

> > was no

> > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his

> prescribing

> > but 2

> > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe.

> > Interestingly,

> > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.)

> > > >

> > > >

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I just realized we need to source reference thyroid ranges for children.

Don't have time for this now. Shall have to attend later unless someone

has already done this.

It's not the best to derive B12 from B12 levels. You have to look at MCV

and the other measure I forget in your complete blood profile. B12

influences the size and maturity of red blood cells and that's what

should be looked at, not the b12 measure itself..

bbrowne123 schrieb:

>

> oops wasnt finished

>

> iron 21 (ref: 10-30) so its ok

> Ferritin: 48 (ref: 18-325)

>

> fe saturation: 33 percent (20-50)

>

> b12: 1112 (ref: 175-750) b12 really high due to oral MB12?

>

> Thyroid Function test (got this on NHS, cause I bitched)

> Free Thyroxine: 14.1 (ref: 9-19)

> TSH: 1.864 (ref: 0.4 -4.5)

> Triiodothyronine: 2.5 (ref: 0.9 - 2.5) This is high, but dont know

> what it is??

>

> other results: cortisol: 50

> IGM: 0.46 (ref: 0.5-2.0) (low side)

>

> Urea: 7.6 (ref: 2.5-6.0) High

>

> Phosphate: 1.61 (ref: 0.80 - 1.55 ) (always high)

>

> Hydroxyproline: 56 (ref: 1-25) (always high) used to be 120

>

> my boy's red blood count always low, liver enzymes always high, and

> Creatinine Kinase, always really high (muscle wasting)

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Margaret,

> > > >

> > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the

> > > important

> > > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3

> > by

> > > the

> > > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient

> > > country

> > > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to

> over

> > > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added

> > salt

> > > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine.

> > > >

> > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me

> > or

> > > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab

> > > reports

> > > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3

> > > efficiently. I

> > > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares

> > and

> > > I

> > > > didn't know a titch about selenium.

> > > >

> > > > Do you know what your free T3 is?

> > > >

> > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural

> > > Thyroid

> > > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-))

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently

> > > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is

> > tested

> > > at

> > > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of

> these

> > > tests,

> > > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless.

> > > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour

> > > without

> > > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a

> massive

> > > stroke

> > > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his

> GP

> > > had

> > > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with

> an

> > > annual

> > > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT.

> > > > > Margaret

> > > > >

> > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and

> I

> > > have

> > > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to

> > > convert

> > > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner

> has

> > > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a

> > fitness

> > > to

> > > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website -

> there

> > > was no

> > > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his

> > prescribing

> > > but 2

> > > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe.

> > > Interestingly,

> > > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> --

> > --

> > > ------

> > > > >

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> > > 27/12/2008 20:49

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> > > >

> > >

> >

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