RE: Warrior diet while nursing- now rice

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In a message dated 3/25/04 11:38:10 PM, heidis@... writes:

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> For some reason, " brown rice " is often listed on the " don't have's " for

> celiacs.

> I don't know WHY though. I do know it gave my son diarrhea too, and the

> rest of us didn't feel real good on it either, so I went back to plain ol'

> white. Could be other stuff in the bran. Also rice contains glutenin, which

> is also found in wheat, and a lot of people are allergic to glutenin rather

> than gliadin (or, on top of). Or maybe those Asians invented rice polishers

> for a reason ... rice bran makes better chicken feed than people feed.

>

> However, they also use " flow agents " for rice. The flow agent will

> vary by factory and they are not required to list it on the label. Dates

> very often have a dusting of flour, which they use on the date equipment.

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> And one of my favorite places, Jaffe's, uses the same equipment to

> bag their flour as the rest of their items, so when I order dried coconut

> I order 25 lbs so I get it in the " original " bag. Bulk foods have similar

> problems -- never buy from bulk food bins!

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> Or maybe the " organic " farm is in California under the jet paths <g>

> I grew up in LA, and the planes landed every couple of minutes ... they

> dumped their jet fuel before landing ... on the lettuce fields, from the

> sounds of it ...

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> My husband always said he was allergic to brown rice and I never believed

> him until I started having reactions too. So it's the glutenin? Perhaps just

as

> the typical american overeats wheat, we overate brown rice (3 times daily

> for over 12 years for me and over 18 years for him) so we developed an allergy

> to it. We never purchased it from bulk bins (we mail ordered direct from the

> grower) as I find dry bulk food dirty looking, suspect to bugs etc...

>

Elainie

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>> Or maybe the " organic " farm is in California under the jet paths <g>

>> I grew up in LA, and the planes landed every couple of minutes ... they

>> dumped their jet fuel before landing ... on the lettuce fields, from the

>> sounds of it ...

Is it typical for all planes landing to dump jet fuel? I live close to a

navy base (less than a mile) and often in the winter when I open my door a

fuel-like smell permeates the air.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

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>> Or maybe the " organic " farm is in California under the jet paths <g>

>> I grew up in LA, and the planes landed every couple of minutes ... they

>> dumped their jet fuel before landing ... on the lettuce fields, from the

>> sounds of it ...

Is it typical for all planes landing to dump jet fuel? I live close to a

navy base (less than a mile) and often in the winter when I open my door a

fuel-like smell permeates the air. -Suze Fisher

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I was a crew chief in the USAF many moons ago in my former life. Dumping

fuel is not normal nor a good thing. But I incorrectly quoted jet fuel

instead of rocket fuel. Same smell, though.

The problem with residues in food concerns watering. The main site is a

wealth of information for the concerned consumer. - Deanna

http://www.organicconsumers.org/toxic/lettuce042903.cfm

" Using private funding, the environmental group paid Texas Tech University,

of Lubbock, Texas, to test 22 lettuce samples purchased in January and

February in the San Francisco Bay Area. It chose the two winter months

because nearly 90% of the nation's winter lettuce supply is grown in the

desert in Southern California and Arizona with perchlorate-tainted

irrigation water from the Colorado River.

The results: Four of the 22 samples tested were found to contain perchlorate

in excess of 30 parts per billion, with the highest --- " mixed organic baby

greens " --- registering 121 ppb. After a flurry of mathematical

extrapolations, the group concluded that 1.6 million U.S. women of

childbearing age --- the population of greatest concern --- are exposed

daily to more perchlorate than the EPA's recommended safe dose from winter

lettuce alone. "

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> RE: Warrior diet while nursing- now rice

>

>I was a crew chief in the USAF many moons ago in my former life. Dumping

>fuel is not normal nor a good thing. But I incorrectly quoted jet fuel

>instead of rocket fuel. Same smell, though.

>

>The problem with residues in food concerns watering. The main site is a

>wealth of information for the concerned consumer. - Deanna

>

Thanks Deanna. I guess it's a good idea to know what the source of water is

for the farms that grow your food. I often buy Earthbound farms organic

lettuce in the winter, although less so now that I have a local source of

greenhouse-grown greens. But still I get the low goitrogen greens from

Earthbound. On their website it says their produce is grown in San

Bautista, California and Yuma, AZ.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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>Is it typical for all planes landing to dump jet fuel? I live close to a

>navy base (less than a mile) and often in the winter when I open my door a

>fuel-like smell permeates the air.

>

>

>Suze Fisher

It used to be standard in LA, and then it came to light and I think

they passed a law against it. But that was years ago, when people

were being more pro-environment. In any case, the navy gets all

kinds of exemptions and their jets are a lot less efficient than

your average airliner. It wouldn't surprise me ... the logic was

that if the plane crashed, there would be less fuel to burn?

-- Heidi Jean

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I guess it's a good idea to know what the source of water is

for the farms that grow your food. - Suze

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Yes, absolutely. We have well water here for our " farm " , small as it is. I

guess to tie it all back to the coffee thing I should mention that coffee is

grown in countries other than our own. The standards and chemicals used

(many of which are exported from the US a la Dupont) are governed by local

governments. Hhmmm, what does USDA Organic really mean when applied to an

import? Isn't it a three year period of organic growing standards that

allows the organic label? How long is DDT, PCB, etc last in the soil?

Assuming that organic foods are free from contaminants is not wise. If

tests show local US organic produce is contaminated with rocket fuel, I

wonder what the situation is in imported products like coffee, even fair

trade organic coffee?

Friends of the Earth broke the Starlink GEcorn scandal by testing products

themselves. It is probably the only way we will ever know what's in our

food. And what good is the USFDA and USDA if they won't test our foods?

Deanna

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>Is it typical for all planes landing to dump jet fuel? I live close to a

>navy base (less than a mile) and often in the winter when I open my door a

>fuel-like smell permeates the air. -Suze Fisher

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>

>I was a crew chief in the USAF many moons ago in my former life. Dumping

>fuel is not normal nor a good thing. But I incorrectly quoted jet fuel

>instead of rocket fuel. Same smell, though.

Well, some other residents near a Navy base seem to be having problems

too ... they agree dumping it is rare (in LA they said they only

dumped 2-3 gallons per landing, which seems strange to me, if it is

so little, why dump it? But, it was a long time ago). I wonder if the

smell though is just normal exhaust smell ... exhaust usually does

have unburned hydrocarbons in it unless it is a super-efficient

engine or has a catalytic converter, and I can't see how your

typical Navy jet would be super-efficient.

See below ... there is more stuff on the site.

-- Heidi Jean

http://www.faultline.org/place/2002/09/fallon.html

The Navy has summarily ruled out jet fuel as a cause of the Fallon cancers, but

records from the state of Nevada show that the Fallon air base has at least 26

toxic waste sites, 16 of them contaminated by jet fuel. Most of the Fallon area

is playa, a dry lakebed over shallow groundwater. According to the Geological

Survey, several distinct plumes of jet fuel have entered the water table beneath

the air base.

Nearby residents charge that Navy fighter pilots routinely dump excess fuel into

the desert prior to landing at Fallon. The Navy says this is a rare occurrence,

with emergency fuel dumps happening about three times a year. However, Navy

records show that in a single instance a few years ago more than 800 gallons was

dumped into the Carson playa.

In 2000 alone, according to the Navy's own statistics, Fallon-based fighters and

bombers consumed 34 million gallons of jet fuel, much of it pumped in on a jet

fuel pipeline, which runs from Sparks, Nevada to Fallon. Locals and

environmentalists say that the pipeline regularly leaks into the desert.

Publicly, the Navy contends that the pipeline spills are minor and

inconsequential, averaging less than 45 gallons a year. But two whistleblowers

at the air base told Navy investigators that more than 30,000 gallons of fuel

had leaked from the pipeline and from a truck in 1988 and 1989 alone. Initially,

the Navy dismissed the allegations. But later admitted that there had in fact

been two major spills.

While Navy officials claim that the jet fuel is not the cause of the Fallon

cancers, they admit that there's been no independent monitoring of jet fuel

inventories at the base, even though federal officials demanded an oversight

system in 1989.

There have been persistent rumors that Navy contractors have been dumping fuel

at the base in order to increase fuel purchases. Because of the lack of

oversight, the Navy has almost no idea how much fuel it has on the base or where

it goes. In 1990, the base commander, Cpt. Rex Rackowitz, admitted that he

couldn't account for the whereabouts of more than 350,000 gallons of fuel.

Another source of jet fuel contamination of Fallon area water are the three old

underground storage tanks. A report filed with Congress two years ago revealed

that underground saltwater has seriously corroded the 45-year old tanks (each

with a capacity of more than a half million gallons) and noted that the tanks

lack any kind of overfill and leak protection.

" I lean toward the base as the cause, " says Posey, a former aircraft

mechanic at Fallon, whose daughter was diagnosed with leukemia in 1990. " Jet

fuel dumping, radar and electronic emissions, jet fuel spills. All that is

dangerous stuff. "

From Puerto Rico to the Purple Sage

Despite the rising cancer rate and the deaths, the people of Fallon have gotten

few answers from state and federal government. The parents of sick kids feel

they are being stonewalled. " I think there's a potential cover up here, " said

Jernee, Adam's father. " I don't have faith in any of these people. How

many kids have to die before we get to the truth? "

The jet fuel spills may well be one source of the cancers. But another study

suggests that there may be a more ominous explanation. A 1994 survey of

groundwater in the Fallon area by the US Geological Survey showed that 31 or 73

drinking water wells showed high concentrations of radioactive minerals. It was

only revealed to the public last September by a former USGS staffer who thought

it might have a bearing on the Fallon illnesses.

The radiation may in part come from depleted uranium expended by bombs and

missiles at the Fallon bombing ranges. Navy statistics show that more than 7

million pounds of ordinance is dropped on the Fallon bombing ranges, including

the notoriously cratered B-20 site, every year.

Now the Navy wants to move some of its Vieques bombing training missions to

Fallon. It recently renewed its 20-year lease on the B-20 bombing range and

acquired another 50,000 acres of BLM lands for target practice. " The Cold War is

over, " says Kalynda Tilges of the Reno-based Citizen Alert. " The Navy is

ignoring the consequences of its pollution, and the nation continues to throw

money into a big, black hole. "

Fallon isn't the only airbase with a leukemia cluster. Seven children have

recently been diagnosed with childhood leukemia in Sierra Vista, Arizona,

adjacent to the -Monthan Air Force Base.

" When are these people going to do something real? " says Floyd Sands, whose

daughter died of leukemia last year. I haven't seen them do anything

real so far. "

St. Clair is editor of <http://www.counterpunch.org>Counterpunch.