Re: [NN]arthritis/inflammation relief (was Kleb, Pepto)

[Guest guest]

....not that I think supplements are the best option, but if you aren't

getting enough relief from inflammation or arthritis grief by diet alone,

you may want to consider this non-NSAID option: lyprinol. It's an extract

from green-lipped mussels and it is said to be very much more effective than

the usual Omega-3 sources for reducing inflammation. I _think_ I saw good

inflammation relief while using this, but who's to say whether it was this

or the Wobenzym ( " systemic enzymes " )... This was written up a few years ago

in one of the health newsletters I get -- they claimed to see great relief

for arthritis in particular.

To quote this sales site:

" These unique lipids belong to the valuable nutritional class known as Omega

3 Puff's. Lyprinol is considered to be the most potent of these Omega 3

lipids. Independent studies have shown Lyprinol to be: 200 times more potent

than Max EPAT, ... 350 times more potent than Evening Primrose Oil, 350

times more potent than Salmon Oil and 400 times more potent than Flax Oil. "

http://store./a1-health/lyplyp.html

These folks are in NZ and they seem honest and reliable to me.

Kleb, was Pepto

>Thanks Heidi,

>

>It would nice if there was a better way. Some have used antibiotics

>that are geared toward klebsiela with success. Then resumed with a

>low starch diet. After awhile some are able to add back in rice or

>similar.

Have you tried the Pepto Bismol? Does that help?

>I had success with the diet for over a year but now the feet have

>been swollen and inflamed for a while now. Feels like walking on

>broken or badly sprained feet all the time. Having to take NSAID's

>now which I know will be detroying my gut. Any ideas for helping

>this(the feet)?

>

>Chris

That is interesting. I had really bad foot pain for some time -- it went

away when

I went GF, but then my knees got swollen, when I was eating a lot of corn

(to make up for lack of wheat ... !). However some of the corn I was eating

was

ground in a place that ground wheat too, so I'm not sure what exactly was

causing it. But gluten intolerance produces antibodies that attack the

joints

which is what it sounds like SA does, so the symptoms might be similar?

I've been doing everything I can in the " anti inflammatory " camp, and it

seems

to be working, but I can't say which factor works the best ... here is what

I did though:

1. Increase " anti inflammatory " foods. These include berries and greens.

Also dried whole anchovies. There's been a fair bit of research on this ...

some fruits are as good as NSAIDS for inflammation.

2. Decrease body fat. Body fat PRODUCES inflammatory chemicals too.

I'm doing this by tracking calories (old fashioned, yeah), using coconut

oil instead of other fats, and decreasing starches (my diet isn't " low carb "

by any means, but decreasing starches is a decent way to lose fat).

3. Let the gut get EMPTY once in awhile. The WD really works to

balance the gut flora, I think ... the " fast " times let it rest and heal

(raw fruit and vegies are easy on the gut, I think, and don't promote

overgrowth ... avoid juices, cooked food, or dried fruit). Also when

the gut is empty the bacteria probably die back -- they need a constant

food source to multiply.

4. Drink kefir-beer. It makes a big difference when I don't

drink it!

5. Avoid anything I react to (that takes experimenting).

Eating a big batch of popcorn (homemade) still makes my finger

joints swell, so I don't do that very often. Hash browns seem

ok though, as are yam noodles. I think a lot of it may have to

do with how the starch digests, or I may be allergic to corn (or

it is just arthritic-inducing!).

BTW on the WD I've been eating the occasional " coconut candy "

(as katja describes) which is great for extra energy in the middle

of the day.

If you find out what works for you I'd love to hear it ...

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Hi there, Ive been away but missed you all, so Ive rejoined your group. I just

wanted to coment on the arthritis discussion.

I Had reactive arthritis, which I treated with great success with antibiotics. I

used Cipro, and BIaxin, for 6 week cycles.

For more information check out.

www.immed.org

www.roadback.org

www.kickas.org

These are the main stables of information to treat these arthritic issues.

steve