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This is maybe unpleasant but is excellent. It means that your body is getting

rid of stored toxins. Keep eating those wonderful greens and detoxifying and in

time (don't know how long) you will have gotten rid of the odor causing bad

stuff. When I was at my sickest with this cancer, I had smelly sweat too, but

as I took my Barley Greens every day it didn't take long until I was not smelly

any more. Drink lots too. Are you juicing?

Myrna

Byron <anthony.byron@...> wrote:Lately im told that my

armpits smell like bad marijuana.

Now ive never smoked, eaten or played with the stuff so I got no idea how

this comes about.

Is this mean I could be allergic to something im eating.

Seems to be sinc ei started to eat more greens like rocket, fancy deep

coloured lettuces ect.

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>

>This is maybe unpleasant but is excellent. It means that your

>body is getting rid of stored toxins. Keep eating those wonderful

>greens and detoxifying and in time (don't know how long) you will

>have gotten rid of the odor causing bad stuff. When I was at my

>sickest with this cancer, I had smelly sweat too, but as I took my

>Barley Greens every day it didn't take long until I was not smelly

>any more. Drink lots too. Are you juicing?

>

>

Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? I've had

an issue with smelly armpits for several months now. It first started

happening after I drink coffee. Now I know that it happens whenever I drink

a stimulant (tea, coffee, mate), and/or haven't slept much the night before

and/or drank too much the night before. I had posted about it last fall, and

I must say it doesn't feel like a positive thing. It just doesn't feel

right. It went away for little bit when I took a trip to the west coast but

then it came back when I returned home. I wondered if it was something in my

home or water or something, but I just haven't been able to pinpoint it. I

thought I'd read somewhere that it might have to do with adrenal fatigue,

but can't verify that. I'm really stumped and although I've heard the

" detox " explanation before, I feel like it's a sign of a problem not a sign

of my body functioning properly. It's just a feeling - I'm not certain about

this.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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> Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? I've

had

> an issue with smelly armpits for several months now. It first started

> happening after I drink coffee. Now I know that it happens whenever I

drink

> a stimulant (tea, coffee, mate), and/or haven't slept much the night

before

> and/or drank too much the night before. I had posted about it last fall,

and

> I must say it doesn't feel like a positive thing. It just doesn't feel

> right. It went away for little bit when I took a trip to the west coast

but

> then it came back when I returned home. I wondered if it was something in

my

> home or water or something, but I just haven't been able to pinpoint it.

I

> thought I'd read somewhere that it might have to do with adrenal fatigue,

> but can't verify that. I'm really stumped and although I've heard the

> " detox " explanation before, I feel like it's a sign of a problem not a

sign

> of my body functioning properly. It's just a feeling - I'm not certain

about

> this.

Suze, I've had the same thing: smelly armpits (rather, armpit -- it seems

to be mostly my right armpit) after drinking coffee. I do have adrenal

fatigue and have also read something relating the two. I've pretty well

concluded that's what it is for me, as when I sweat when I'm really

stressed, or after drinking coffee (which stresses the adrenals), it's

smelly. Otherwise my sweat or armpits don't seem to smell. I have no idea

exactly *what* causes the odor, but I do believe in my case at least it's

related to the low adrenals.

My health practitioner put me on Drenamin by Standard Process, which has

helped my adrenals and energy level tremendously.

BTW, spritzing with vinegar water before washing with soap and water seems

to help alleviate the odor. But that's only a bandaid of course.

Alleviating and/or dealing with the stress, and supporting the adrenals, is

probably the best strategy to get at the cause.

~ Fern

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>Suze, I've had the same thing: smelly armpits (rather, armpit -- it seems

>to be mostly my right armpit) after drinking coffee. I do have adrenal

>fatigue and have also read something relating the two. I've pretty well

>concluded that's what it is for me, as when I sweat when I'm really

>stressed, or after drinking coffee (which stresses the adrenals), it's

>smelly. Otherwise my sweat or armpits don't seem to smell. I have no idea

>exactly *what* causes the odor, but I do believe in my case at least it's

>related to the low adrenals.

>

>My health practitioner put me on Drenamin by Standard Process, which has

>helped my adrenals and energy level tremendously.

>

>BTW, spritzing with vinegar water before washing with soap and water seems

>to help alleviate the odor. But that's only a bandaid of course.

>Alleviating and/or dealing with the stress, and supporting the adrenals, is

>probably the best strategy to get at the cause.

>

>~ Fern

Oh, thanks for sharing that Fern! I had been operating under the idea that

it was adrenal fatigue for a while, but I just wasn't sure. The funny thing

is that when I went to visit in Seattle, I drank more coffee than I

normally do and the smell went away. In any case, I'm taking " cortine " by

Thorne for adrenal support, but I'm probably not getting as much adrenal

support as I need. I'm glad you told me your story, I'm going to go back and

look up info on adrenal support again and try to get my adrenals back in

shape. I guess getting more sleep would really help too!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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>Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? -- Suze

Fisher

I can get stinky when I have fasted for a couple of days, in which case I

*feel* it is a toxic release as it is all over, even in my mouth. Yuck.

Massage can bring toxins out as well.

Regardless of the cause of the smell, drinking large quantities of water

(within reason) and sweating are good ways to help remedy the odor. I would

recommend exercise and saunas.

If the smell continues, it might be from a dietary source, especially if it

is a new thing and you have not fasted or changed other lifestyle factors

recently.

But then, that's just what I think.

Deanna

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Hi Myrna,

Yes I usually drink a lot of water every day. I a not juicing though.

Just munching on soaked almonds and having 1 large ( approx 150 gram ) stack

of leafy greens with half a avocado during day

And my usual warrior pig out at night :-)

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From: esred sez myrna [mailto:notes4mld@...]

Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 5:03 AM

Subject: Re: [OT] Smelly armpits

This is maybe unpleasant but is excellent. It means that your body is

getting rid of stored toxins. Keep eating those wonderful greens and

detoxifying and in time (don't know how long) you will have gotten rid of

the odor causing bad stuff. When I was at my sickest with this cancer, I

had smelly sweat too, but as I took my Barley Greens every day it didn't

take long until I was not smelly any more. Drink lots too. Are you

juicing?

Myrna

Byron <anthony.byron@...> wrote:Lately im told that

my armpits smell like bad marijuana.

Now ive never smoked, eaten or played with the stuff so I got no idea how

this comes about.

Is this mean I could be allergic to something im eating.

Seems to be sinc ei started to eat more greens like rocket, fancy deep

coloured lettuces ect.

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I didn't mean to jump in here and sound like I was trying to be an expert on

anything, when I'm not. A lot of health books on juicing, fasting, water,

natural hygiene etc talk about how natrual green foods have a detoxifying effect

on the body and that there can be unpleasant symptoms while this 'healing

crisis' is going on. I've experienced some of that myself in my fight against

cancer.

I don't know anything about adrenals so if that explanation fits you better

that's great. The main thing is that you find out what your problem is and then

find a way to solve it as naturally as possible. I agree with Fern that the

Standard Process products are very good if you can get them.

Myrna

Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote:> Re: [OT] Smelly armpits

>

>

>This is maybe unpleasant but is excellent. It means that your

>body is getting rid of stored toxins. Keep eating those wonderful

>greens and detoxifying and in time (don't know how long) you will

>have gotten rid of the odor causing bad stuff. When I was at my

>sickest with this cancer, I had smelly sweat too, but as I took my

>Barley Greens every day it didn't take long until I was not smelly

>any more. Drink lots too. Are you juicing?

>

>

Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? I've had

an issue with smelly armpits for several months now. It first started

happening after I drink coffee. Now I know that it happens whenever I drink

a stimulant (tea, coffee, mate), and/or haven't slept much the night before

and/or drank too much the night before. I had posted about it last fall, and

I must say it doesn't feel like a positive thing. It just doesn't feel

right. It went away for little bit when I took a trip to the west coast but

then it came back when I returned home. I wondered if it was something in my

home or water or something, but I just haven't been able to pinpoint it. I

thought I'd read somewhere that it might have to do with adrenal fatigue,

but can't verify that. I'm really stumped and although I've heard the

" detox " explanation before, I feel like it's a sign of a problem not a sign

of my body functioning properly. It's just a feeling - I'm not certain about

this.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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> Oh, thanks for sharing that Fern! I had been operating under the idea

that

> it was adrenal fatigue for a while, but I just wasn't sure. The funny

thing

> is that when I went to visit in Seattle, I drank more coffee than

I

> normally do and the smell went away. In any case, I'm taking " cortine " by

> Thorne for adrenal support, but I'm probably not getting as much adrenal

> support as I need. I'm glad you told me your story, I'm going to go back

and

> look up info on adrenal support again and try to get my adrenals back in

> shape. I guess getting more sleep would really help too!

Perhaps your trip to 's was relaxing enough that your adrenals

weren't being overworked? :)

In addition to the Drenamin I've also been taking Pantothenic acid (B5) and

L-tyrosine (an amino acid) for my adrenals. I know Vitamin C is also good

for adrenals. Oh, I sometimes also drink Ginseng tea, which gives your

adrenals a boost.

I've pretty well gotten off of coffee, except occasionally as a treat.

Instead I drink yerba mate tea in the morning to give me a jump start on

the day. It contains mateine instead of caffeine, and while it's still a

stimulant, it gives me a good kind of energy, different from coffee.

Do you find you have more energy at night than in the morning? Getting a

" second wind " at night is often indicative of low adrenals. Dr. Mercola

says that getting sleep between 11:30 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. helps your

adrenals to rebuild. I've been trying to get to bed so I can sleep at least

part of that time, and it does seem to be helping. But I must admit I'm a

real night owl. :)

~ Fern

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That's interesting. On many occasions late at night when im ready for bed I

feel physically STRONG, coordinated to a heightened level. IF I practice

some kung fu moves I do things really perfect with what feels like much

strength/grace/speed

To fix adrenals you could just eat adrenal glands of a animal hey >

>>>Do you find you have more energy at night than in the morning? Getting a

>>> " second wind " at night is often indicative of low adrenals.

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From: Fern [mailto:readnwrite@...]

Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 11:26 AM

Subject: Re: [OT] Smelly armpits

----- Original Message -----

From: " Suze Fisher "

> Oh, thanks for sharing that Fern! I had been operating under the idea

that

> it was adrenal fatigue for a while, but I just wasn't sure. The funny

thing

> is that when I went to visit in Seattle, I drank more coffee than

I

> normally do and the smell went away. In any case, I'm taking " cortine " by

> Thorne for adrenal support, but I'm probably not getting as much adrenal

> support as I need. I'm glad you told me your story, I'm going to go back

and

> look up info on adrenal support again and try to get my adrenals back in

> shape. I guess getting more sleep would really help too!

Perhaps your trip to 's was relaxing enough that your adrenals

weren't being overworked? :)

In addition to the Drenamin I've also been taking Pantothenic acid (B5) and

L-tyrosine (an amino acid) for my adrenals. I know Vitamin C is also good

for adrenals. Oh, I sometimes also drink Ginseng tea, which gives your

adrenals a boost.

I've pretty well gotten off of coffee, except occasionally as a treat.

Instead I drink yerba mate tea in the morning to give me a jump start on

the day. It contains mateine instead of caffeine, and while it's still a

stimulant, it gives me a good kind of energy, different from coffee.

Do you find you have more energy at night than in the morning? Getting a

" second wind " at night is often indicative of low adrenals. Dr. Mercola

says that getting sleep between 11:30 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. helps your

adrenals to rebuild. I've been trying to get to bed so I can sleep at least

part of that time, and it does seem to be helping. But I must admit I'm a

real night owl. :)

~ Fern

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I had smelly armpits (no idea whether it smelled like marijuana, it

definitely smelled BAD) after wearing a rented wetsuit for surfing.

So, foreign bacteria (of sticky people) started living in my armpits.

I used some strong stuff for stinky armpits (don't remember the brand,

but I'm in Germany anyways, so you probably don't have the same brands

anyways) and that obviously killed the foreign bacteria and they never

came back.

CU Anja

> Lately im told that my armpits smell like bad marijuana.

> Now ive never smoked, eaten or played with the stuff so I got no

idea how this comes about.

> Is this mean I could be allergic to something im eating.

> Seems to be sinc ei started to eat more greens like rocket, fancy deep

> coloured lettuces ect.

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>

>

>Perhaps your trip to 's was relaxing enough that your adrenals

>weren't being overworked? :)

Could be :-)

>

>In addition to the Drenamin I've also been taking Pantothenic acid (B5) and

>L-tyrosine (an amino acid) for my adrenals. I know Vitamin C is also good

>for adrenals. Oh, I sometimes also drink Ginseng tea, which gives your

>adrenals a boost.

I take a multi with all the B's, plus l-tyrosine and Acerola powder.

>

>I've pretty well gotten off of coffee, except occasionally as a treat.

>Instead I drink yerba mate tea in the morning to give me a jump start on

>the day. It contains mateine instead of caffeine, and while it's still a

>stimulant, it gives me a good kind of energy, different from coffee.

Strange, but I think mateine gave me stinky sweat too. Right now I'm

drinking decaf, which I hardly ever do anymore since I can't have cream in

my coffee and I don't like it without cream, and it seems to affect me much

less than any kind of tea - red or black. Don't recall if I've tried green.

>

>Do you find you have more energy at night than in the morning? Getting a

> " second wind " at night is often indicative of low adrenals.

I did read that, but I only get that way sometimes.

Dr. Mercola

>says that getting sleep between 11:30 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. helps your

>adrenals to rebuild. I've been trying to get to bed so I can sleep at least

>part of that time, and it does seem to be helping. But I must admit I'm a

>real night owl. :)

Well, I have been staying up later due to late night calls to the west

coast, but I'm usually asleep by midnight. My problem is though, that my

internal clock wakes me up around 5 and sometimes even earlier, so I never

sleep straight through the night. I'm taking melatonin now and will continue

for a few weeks. I had a consultation with Ron (Schmid) yesterday and he

said that he's seen people do melatonin for 2-3 weeks, go off it, and have

no further sleep problems. I am a total wreck if I don't get at least 6-7

hours and I know it's bad for the adrenals not to get adequate sleep, so I

will try the melatonin and see if that helps.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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At 04:25 PM 3/29/04 -0600, you wrote:

> >Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? --

Suze

> Fisher

>

> I can get stinky when I have fasted for a couple of days, in which case I

> Yuck.

> Massage can bring toxins out as well.

>

> Regardless of the cause of the smell, drinking large quantities of water

> I would

> recommend exercise and saunas.

>

> If the smell continues, it might be from a dietary source, especially if it

> is a new thing and you have not fasted or changed other lifestyle factors

> recently.

>

> But then, that's just what I think.

> Deanna

Why do I feel compelled to contribute to a stinky armpit thread?

I stopped stinking when I switched over to NT foods. The only time I

noticed a 'return', as it were, was the day after I'd eaten some sourdough

rye bread. Guess what I smelled like?

MFJ

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ROFLMAO

And for those who don't know what ROFLMAO is it = Rolls ON Floor Laughing

Ass Off.

The only time I

>noticed a 'return', as it were, was the day after I'd eaten some sourdough

>rye bread. Guess what I smelled like?

Marijuana?

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From: Suze Fisher [mailto:s.fisher22@...]

Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2004 9:00 AM

Subject: RE: [OT] Smelly armpits

> RE: [OT] Smelly armpits

>

>

>At 04:25 PM 3/29/04 -0600, you wrote:

>> >Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? --

>Suze

>> Fisher

>>

>> I can get stinky when I have fasted for a couple of days, in which case I

>> Yuck.

>> Massage can bring toxins out as well.

>>

>> Regardless of the cause of the smell, drinking large quantities of water

>> I would

>> recommend exercise and saunas.

>>

>> If the smell continues, it might be from a dietary source,

>especially if it

>> is a new thing and you have not fasted or changed other lifestyle factors

>> recently.

>>

>> But then, that's just what I think.

>> Deanna

>

>

>Why do I feel compelled to contribute to a stinky armpit thread?

Because you're bored?

>

>I stopped stinking when I switched over to NT foods.

Strange, i STARTED stinking after i had switched over to NT foods!

The only time I

>noticed a 'return', as it were, was the day after I'd eaten some sourdough

>rye bread. Guess what I smelled like?

Marijuana?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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>

>

>At 04:25 PM 3/29/04 -0600, you wrote:

>> >Myrna, how do you know it means the body is getting rid of toxins? --

>Suze

>> Fisher

>>

>> I can get stinky when I have fasted for a couple of days, in which case I

>> Yuck.

>> Massage can bring toxins out as well.

>>

>> Regardless of the cause of the smell, drinking large quantities of water

>> I would

>> recommend exercise and saunas.

>>

>> If the smell continues, it might be from a dietary source,

>especially if it

>> is a new thing and you have not fasted or changed other lifestyle factors

>> recently.

>>

>> But then, that's just what I think.

>> Deanna

>

>

>Why do I feel compelled to contribute to a stinky armpit thread?

Because you're bored?

>

>I stopped stinking when I switched over to NT foods.

Strange, i STARTED stinking after i had switched over to NT foods!

The only time I

>noticed a 'return', as it were, was the day after I'd eaten some sourdough

>rye bread. Guess what I smelled like?

Marijuana?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

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At 08:25 AM 3/30/04 -0500, you wrote:

> Well, I have been staying up later due to late night calls to the west

> coast, but I'm usually asleep by midnight. My problem is though, that my

> internal clock wakes me up around 5 and sometimes even earlier, so I never

> sleep straight through the night. I'm taking melatonin now and will continue

> for a few weeks. I had a consultation with Ron (Schmid) yesterday and he

> said that he's seen people do melatonin for 2-3 weeks, go off it, and have

> no further sleep problems. I am a total wreck if I don't get at least 6-7

> hours and I know it's bad for the adrenals not to get adequate sleep, so I

> will try the melatonin and see if that helps.

Pardon the clueless one here, but what does melatonin have to do with

sleep? Enlighten me. :)

MFJ

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>Pardon the clueless one here, but what does melatonin have to do with

>sleep? Enlighten me. :)

It's a hormone (produced by the pineal gland) that helps you to sleep.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

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University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

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At 05:59 PM 3/30/04 -0500, you wrote:

>>Why do I feel compelled to contribute to a stinky armpit thread?

>

>Because you're bored?

Wrong. Lack of a poop thread.

>

>>

>>I stopped stinking when I switched over to NT foods.

>

>Strange, i STARTED stinking after i had switched over to NT foods!

Well, between the two of us then, Ron must be REAL challenged. S'okay,

it's good for him. Somebody's gotta keep him on his toes.

>

>

> The only time I

>>noticed a 'return', as it were, was the day after I'd eaten some sourdough

>>rye bread. Guess what I smelled like?

>

>

>Marijuana?

Hmmmmmm. No, don't think so. Although I'd like to think that if I

did, it would be GOOD marijuana.

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At 06:45 PM 3/30/04 -0500, you wrote:

>>Pardon the clueless one here, but what does melatonin have to do with

>>sleep? Enlighten me. :)

>

>It's a hormone (produced by the pineal gland) that helps you to sleep.

>

And there I thought it had to do with skin color. Or maybe I'm just

confused and I've mixed one thing with another (which is not terribly

unusual).

Is it used as a long-term boost (yah, I know, oxymoron " boost " with " help

sleep " ) or an occasional?

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> >I've pretty well gotten off of coffee, except occasionally as a treat.

> >Instead I drink yerba mate tea in the morning to give me a jump start on

> >the day. It contains mateine instead of caffeine, and while it's still a

> >stimulant, it gives me a good kind of energy, different from coffee.

>

> Strange, but I think mateine gave me stinky sweat too. Right now I'm

> drinking decaf, which I hardly ever do anymore since I can't have cream

in

> my coffee and I don't like it without cream, and it seems to affect me

much

> less than any kind of tea - red or black. Don't recall if I've tried

green.

Green tea and mate don't seem to affect me that way. But they are both

stimulants, so they're probably related to the same reason that coffee

causes odor. That is, if it is because of it affecting the adrenals.

> Dr. Mercola

> >says that getting sleep between 11:30 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. helps your

> >adrenals to rebuild. I've been trying to get to bed so I can sleep at

least

> >part of that time, and it does seem to be helping. But I must admit I'm

a

> >real night owl. :)

>

> Well, I have been staying up later due to late night calls to the west

> coast, but I'm usually asleep by midnight. My problem is though, that my

> internal clock wakes me up around 5 and sometimes even earlier, so I

never

> sleep straight through the night.

Now that's interesting! I've been waking up around 5 also and haven't been

able to figure it out. At first I thought my cat was waking me around that

time because *she* was getting up. But I think it's the other way around:

my stirring wakes her up.

I've been wanting to check back thru the archives to re-read a thread some

time ago about someone who woke up a certain time every night, and someone

else responded saying that the time one wakes up has to do with a problem

with certain organs. I'm probably not remembering it exactly right but if

anyone has any further info I'd appreciate hearing more about it.

> I'm taking melatonin now and will continue

> for a few weeks. I had a consultation with Ron (Schmid) yesterday and he

> said that he's seen people do melatonin for 2-3 weeks, go off it, and

have

> no further sleep problems. I am a total wreck if I don't get at least 6-7

> hours and I know it's bad for the adrenals not to get adequate sleep, so

I

> will try the melatonin and see if that helps.

I can't operate on less than that, either, and really need an average of 8

hours to function at an optimal level. I didn't used to be that way, tho; I

could get only 5-6 hours of sleep and be fine. But I do think that may have

contributed to my adrenal burn-out.

~ Fern

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