Re: Quick weight/inch loss

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>He has just been tested for cortisol, and it appears he does have

>high cortisol levels. He is going to see a specialist with suspected

>cuhings syndrome. However, any treatment he receives for this is not

>going to happen before the wedding.

>

>Thanks for any help you can give!

>Jo

The Warrior Diet really seems to help cortisol levels.

I'm not really in favor of crash weight loss ... you

end up losing a lot of muscle. But if he does the

Warrior Diet, and esp. if he stops grains, he may

find his gut goes down by a few inches (just from

lack of bloating and so much food, plus glycogen

loss) very quickly.

My weight loss has mainly been in the " cortisol "

areas (back of neck, gut) which makes me think

it's stabilized. I do take coconut oil (candies!)

during the day, and concentrate on protein foods.

Carbs upset the cortisol balance, esp. if, like most

folks, he eats them all day long. My evening potatoes

don't seem to affect my insulin/cortisol at all. Also

food allergies make cortisol rise, as does lack

of sleep and other stresses. The WD seems to make

mice handle stress better, which could help the

cortisol issue too.

-- Heidi Jean

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> My weight loss has mainly been in the " cortisol "

> areas (back of neck, gut) which makes me think

> it's stabilized. I do take coconut oil (candies!)

> during the day, and concentrate on protein foods.

> Carbs upset the cortisol balance, esp. if, like most

> folks, he eats them all day long. My evening potatoes

> don't seem to affect my insulin/cortisol at all. Also

> food allergies make cortisol rise, as does lack

> of sleep and other stresses. The WD seems to make

> mice handle stress better, which could help the

> cortisol issue too.

Hi Heidi

Thanks for your reply. He eats very few grains - only the fillers in

sausages and black pudding a couple of times a week. He has been low

carbing for over 3 years - had phenomenal weight loss in the first 18

months, then it stopped, then he gained back all 140 lbs or more of

it, and has just about stabilised now I think.

I might try the coconut oil candies - it's the only way I'll be able

to get the oil down him! lol!

I'll suggest the WD, but the only meal he truly enjoys eating is a

fry-up breakfast. And I can't make him eat fermented veg or kefir or

kombucha. And he can't exercise due to a painful problem with one of

his ankles that has limited his movements for the last 3-4 months.

As for stress, well, there's nothing we can do about that - he's

launching a new business with a unique service, and it's all go at

the moment. He's spent the last 2 years securing funding (very

stressful), and now the pressure is on to meet the investors'/Bank's

requirements (even more stressful). He actually enjoys the stress.

He also suffers from sleep apnoea which can't help - this improved

when he went low carb, and when he lost weight - it is worse now he

has gained weight again. I must remind him to talk to his GP about

it - it got forgetton among the blood tests investigating the weight

gain.

Thanks again

Jo

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Jo-

>Does anyone have any other ideas?

I'm sure it will come as a great shock to you that I suggest reconstituting

his diet so as to reduce carbs and regulate insulin production. <g>

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--- In , Idol <Idol@c...>

wrote:

> Jo-

>

> >Does anyone have any other ideas?

>

> I'm sure it will come as a great shock to you that I suggest

reconstituting

> his diet so as to reduce carbs and regulate insulin production. <g>

>

Hi

Lol! No great surprise! However, he has been low carbing for 3+

years. we have experimented with various levels of carbs, fats and

proteins in the last 18 months, and nothing makes any difference. We

are both great advocates of low carb diets.

Jo

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>He also suffers from sleep apnoea which can't help - this improved

>when he went low carb, and when he lost weight - it is worse now he

>has gained weight again. I must remind him to talk to his GP about

>it - it got forgetton among the blood tests investigating the weight

>gain.

>

>Thanks again

>

>Jo

Sorry to hear about the weight gain! It is a really difficult problem in our

society. A lot of the research now is indicating that something goes

wrong with the appetite, and people just are too hungry, eat more

than their body can use. Though not by a LOT, just a bit more calories.

My own search originally began with a search to figure out " what can

I eat so I can make it from breakfast to lunch without getting excruciatingly

hungry and grouchy? " . The fact I can go from breakfast to dinner now, eating

so little is amazing to me, and rather freeing (I don't have to carry a basket

of food with me when I leave the house!). But it took a lot of experimenting

and work. What is demoralizing is how many people now are getting stomach

stapling because they never do come up with a cure for their appetite. Somehow

the stapling really DOES control the appetite, tho the researchers aren't sure

how

it works. One of the docs who pioneered the procedure is hoping that

they will discover WHAT it does so they can come up with a better solution.

If he's busy with a new business he probably doesn't want to deal with a food

diary etc., but it's the only thing I've found that works long term ...track

everything,

including calories and how you feel, bowel movements etc. I keep a little graph

and force myself to spend 10 minutes every morning looking at it. Maybe

his GP can find some hormonal issues too.

Sleep apnea is a big problem ... I've known people who ended

up getting one of those air compressors which really helps,

they say.

-- Heidi Jean

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Jo-

>However, he has been low carbing for 3+

>years. we have experimented with various levels of carbs, fats and

>proteins in the last 18 months, and nothing makes any difference. We

>are both great advocates of low carb diets.

Hmm, could there be hidden carbs in his diet? Or is his fat intake skewed

towards the unsaturated? Has he considered weight training?

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--- In , Idol <Idol@c...>

wrote:

> Hmm, could there be hidden carbs in his diet? Or is his fat intake

skewed

> towards the unsaturated? Has he considered weight training?

We have tried varying levels of carb from extreme low (around 5-10g)

to Schwarzbein levels of around 70g per day. There are no hidden

carbs. His current status is probably 50-ish per day, because there

seems to be no benefit to going lower as he still gains weight.

At the point his weight loss reversed, he was eating high sat fat.

Then I wondered if dairy might be a problem for him, so we cut that

out, and that would have skewed the proportion in favour of unsat,

but that was some time into the weight gain, so this won't be the

cause of it.

He doesn't have time to weight train. But carrying his body around

will be weight training enough for him.

He is now considering the warrior diet, which I think will suit him

quite well. I have also ordered a large pot of primal defense. He

takes 2 capsules of fish oil daily (each containing 580mg Om3) and l-

glutamine and zinc. The L-glutamine certainly appears to aid his

digestion (he's less windy and BMs more solid) so I wonder if he

suffers from leaky gut/pyroluria or some such thing. I'm thinking of

throwing in a multi vit, just in case too.

Jo

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>At the point his weight loss reversed, he was eating high sat fat.

>Then I wondered if dairy might be a problem for him, so we cut that

>out, and that would have skewed the proportion in favour of unsat,

>but that was some time into the weight gain, so this won't be the

>cause of it.

He might also try using coconut oil instead of animal fat ...

THAT seemed to make a huge difference and got me off

my plateau with the WD. Or even straight MCT ... it's pricey, but

I put it on my salads at lunch and it does amazing things

for a sluggish metabolism.

I'd also suggest tracking calories (gasp!). One thing I think

that happens with Atkins is that people *adapt* to it, their

bodies start learning to use protein and fat more efficiently.

Or, by avoiding grains and other allergens, their guts

and enzymes heal a bit so they can absorb fat better than

they were. I found I started to gain weight as my digestion

healed, even on the same amount of food (that was before

the WD and the more recent changes I've made). At one point

in my life I could eat huge amounts of fat and not gain weight ...

but I never *absorbed* the fat, as it turns out. Coconut oil

is a fat, but the MCT portion of it does not work like fat ... it

turns directly into energy, pretty much (but not glucose) and stimulates

the production of Human Growth Hormone and higher thyroid

levels, I think.

I've been obsessively tracking my food for a couple of years

now, and it really does help. If a person gains weight at 2,500

calories a day, they will probably lose at 2,000, and the

changes don't have to be major.

-- Heidi Jean

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> The L-glutamine certainly appears to aid his

> digestion (he's less windy and BMs more solid) so I wonder if he

> suffers from leaky gut/pyroluria or some such thing.

> Jo

If 5 grams of l-glutamine 2X a day one or two hours before meals for a month

relieves gut symptoms leaky gut is treated. You might want to include olive

leaf extract (did both for my leaky gut) as Sherry in her book No

More Heartburn links leaky gut to food allergies (Is he gluten free as well

as dairy?), overgrowth of klebsiella, candida, clostridia. Other causes are

alcohol, food additives and especially NSAIDS like Motrin, Aleve and Advil

because they inflame the intestinal lining, causing widening between cells

and sometimes hemorrrhaging.

Wanita

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> Re: Quick weight/inch loss

>

>

>He might also try using coconut oil instead of animal fat ...

>THAT seemed to make a huge difference and got me off

>my plateau with the WD. Or even straight MCT ... it's pricey, but

>I put it on my salads at lunch and it does amazing things

>for a sluggish metabolism.

GJ: what brand MCT do you use? Is it hypo-allergenic?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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>GJ: what brand MCT do you use? Is it hypo-allergenic?

>

>Suze Fisher

I get it from Parrillo (www.parrillo.com). OK, you can

make fun of body builders if you want, but it's the

best source for MCT. Their brand is Cap-tri. It is VERY pure,

nothing to be allergic to. But you have to start it gradually

because it absorbs so fast it can cause stomach cramps.

Start with 1 tsp. with a meal, work up to 1-2 Tbls. with a meal.

I take it on an empty stomach on occasion if I feel " beat "

(like after working out in the garden for hours). Coconut

candies work pretty well too. Gives you that " sugar high "

without the insulin.

BTW they use MCT for sick babies, because if a kid

has fat absorption problems they can still digest MCT. There

is a lot of MCT in coconut oil and human milk. It is safe

stuff ... usually I like whole foods, but I'm not above cheating

sometimes to lose weight.

- GJ

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> RE: Quick weight/inch loss

>

>

>

>>GJ: what brand MCT do you use? Is it hypo-allergenic?

>>

>>Suze Fisher

>

>I get it from Parrillo (www.parrillo.com). OK, you can

>make fun of body builders if you want, but it's the

>best source for MCT. Their brand is Cap-tri. It is VERY pure,

>nothing to be allergic to. But you have to start it gradually

>because it absorbs so fast it can cause stomach cramps.

>Start with 1 tsp. with a meal, work up to 1-2 Tbls. with a meal.

>I take it on an empty stomach on occasion if I feel " beat "

>(like after working out in the garden for hours). Coconut

>candies work pretty well too. Gives you that " sugar high "

>without the insulin.

Well I'd much prefer the coconut candies, they're off the menu on the

elimination diet these days :-( Thanks for the info on the MCT :-)

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

> > The L-glutamine certainly appears to aid his

> > digestion (he's less windy and BMs more solid) so I wonder if he

> > suffers from leaky gut/pyroluria or some such thing.

> > Jo

>

> If 5 grams of l-glutamine 2X a day one or two hours before meals

for a month

> relieves gut symptoms leaky gut is treated. You might want to

include olive

> leaf extract (did both for my leaky gut) as Sherry in her

book No

> More Heartburn links leaky gut to food allergies (Is he gluten

free as well

> as dairy?),

He does eat some dairy - he never went totally dairy free. He is

also now gluten free as of this weekend.

overgrowth of klebsiella, candida, clostridia. Other causes are

> alcohol, food additives and especially NSAIDS like Motrin, Aleve

and Advil

> because they inflame the intestinal lining, causing widening

between cells

> and sometimes hemorrrhaging.

If those are medicines, then he takes very few - recently anti-

inflammatories for his ankle, and occasional headache relief.

I don't believe he has candida - he doesn't show the symptoms like I

do. Not sure about the klebsiella and clostridia - I've never heard

of them! He is also alcohol free as of this weekend - although he'd

been months without any alcohol before he started stalling and

gaining anyway.

Thanks

Jo