Re: Re: OT or better: OL (off language) :)

[Guest guest]

At 08:12 AM 4/4/2004, you wrote:

> Man kann ja schlecht alles aus den Staaten

>importieren.

glucklichewise koennen wir aber aus deustchland importieren -

http://www.germandeli.com/

leider, importieren sie kein herringssalat!

-katja

[Guest guest]

I can be ridiculous in about 12 languages, and in German the best I can

do is:

Ich bin ein jelly doughnut!

Lynn S.

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[Guest guest]

Du meinst:

" Ich bin ein Berliner " !!!

Jelly doughnuts are called " Berliner " in Germany and sold during the

carneval period.

in Germany

Re: Re: OT or better: OL (off language)

> I can be ridiculous in about 12 languages, and in German the best I can

> do is:

>

> Ich bin ein jelly doughnut!

>

> Lynn S.

>

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> Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

> Editor/Publisher, The New Homemaker

> http://www.thenewhomemaker.com/

> Celebrating 5 Years of Homemaker and Caregiver Support: 1999-2004

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Du meinst:

>

> " Ich bin ein Berliner " !!!

>

> Jelly doughnuts are called " Berliner " in Germany and sold during the

> carneval period.

Oh, yas, I know. JFK said it all those years ago and didn't know he

was saying " I am a jelly doughnut! " Ich bin ein jelly doughnut! is a

phrase we use at our house to mean, I am an incredibly pompous goof!

Not that JFK was an incredibly pompous goof per se...

Lynn S.

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Editor/Publisher, The New Homemaker

http://www.thenewhomemaker.com/

Celebrating 5 Years of Homemaker and Caregiver Support: 1999-2004

[Guest guest]

heehee. well, living in hannover, i got really spoiled with lindt (there's

a lindt factory there). but now i always buy Green and Black - their milk

chocolate is actually better than any chocolate i ever had living overseas,

and i honestly *never* thought i'd say that! i'm a total snob about chocolate!

even better, green and black is fair trade, shade grown, organic goodness.

and? gluten free! (except the dark chocolate with mint and the milk

chocolate caramel.)

-katja

At 04:17 AM 4/5/2004, you wrote:

>Don't buy that chocolate (Trumpf Schogetten) and think that's good

>german chocolate. It's cheap (and if you pay so much to have it

>shipped overseas, at least get some real chocolate) and doesn't melt

>in your mouth. Buy Milka or if you're really rich buy Lindt (that's

>something you'd get for Christmas). Don't buy Sarotti for the same

>reason. Toffifee is really good and Merci (rather have the

>assortment than those new Merci pur.

>Now you got me started so I'll stop myself now and if you need any

>more advise on what's good, feel free to ask me (private mail is ok

>and will probably be faster, as it takes me a while to sort through my

>digest...)

>CU Anja

[Guest guest]

> I'm not sure what JFK *wanted* to say when he said that. It would mean

> I'm a jelly doughnut as well as I'm from Berlin (or I live in Berlin).

> If he said that in Berlin, my guess would be that he wanted to express

> how much he liked it there. (around Berlin, jelly doughnuts aren't

> called Berliner, but Pfannkuchen (which means pancakes for " normal "

> Germans ).

> Same with Hamburg

I am glad to hear that my president did not inadvertently humiliate

himself 40+ years ago. Because strange to say I have heard jokes

about it to this day. (The context: It was during the Cold War and he

was expressing solidarity with the rather embattled folks of West

Berlin.)

Lynn S.

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Editor/Publisher, The New Homemaker

http://www.thenewhomemaker.com/

Celebrating 5 Years of Homemaker and Caregiver Support: 1999-2004

[Guest guest]

> Re: OT or better: OL (off language)

>

>

>I'm not sure what JFK *wanted* to say when he said that. It would mean

>I'm a jelly doughnut as well as I'm from Berlin (or I live in Berlin).

My understanding is that " Ich bin ein Berliner " means " I am a jelly donut " ,

whereas " Ich bin Berliner " means " I'm a person from (or living in) Berlin.

Adding the " ein " makes all the difference in the meaning of the sentence, or

so I've been told. My German's awfull rusty, but I thought I recall that the

grammatical rule calls for removing the " ein " (or " eine " ) when identifying

where you are from? I'm sure the native speakers will correct me if I'm

wrong.

It was a joke in family as well, just like Lynn's.

Suze Fisher (Ich bin ein kase kuchen)

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[Guest guest]

> But about your families jokes, why would he say I'm a jelly doughnut?

> It was during a speech, so it was official, wasn't it? So, my guess

> would be that he wanted to express he felt with the people of Berlin.

Of course, but that's not silly. We're aiming for silly here. " Ich

bin ein jelly doughnut " is funny! Of course, if you are what you eat,

and if Elvis could speak German, and Elvis said it instead of JFK, it

would be accurate as well as silly!

Lynn S.

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Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

Editor/Publisher, The New Homemaker

http://www.thenewhomemaker.com/

Celebrating 5 Years of Homemaker and Caregiver Support: 1999-2004

[Guest guest]

At 05:05 PM 4/5/2004, you wrote:

>But about your families jokes, why would he say I'm a jelly doughnut?

>It was during a speech, so it was official, wasn't it? So, my guess

>would be that he wanted to express he felt with the people of Berlin.

>CU Anja

see, anja, that's the funny thing. every german i ever discussed this with

said exactly that: " what does it matter, we knew what he meant! " and every

american has made fun of it.

-katja

[Guest guest]

At 05:09 AM 4/6/2004, you wrote:

>Well, everyone makes fun of his own president (except for Bush, who

>*everyone* is laughing about

>CU Anja

not everyone, anja.

some of us are crying.

-katja