Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 >I don't agree with this but some people say that you shouldn't eat >the wonderfully, tasty, crispy chiken skin for some reasons. One >bieng that chiken urinate through the skin. Any body have any thing >to say about this > All animals excrete stuff through their skin, but I wouldn't call it " urination " . Urine is specifically produced by the kidneys, and exits through one specific tube, which on humans comes out in an obvious place. In chickens, urine, poop, and eggs all come out the same tube, the cloaca. Now THAT has a high yuk factor, so I suppose one could avoid eggs ... actually watching my chickens eat bugs and dirt etc. I could get turned off of eggs, but if I ate according to aesthetics only, I wouldn't be in this group, I'd be eating McMeat which is all nice and pretty. And then there are the folks that say urine is good for you to drink anyway ... but avoiding THAT can of worms there is lots of good stuff in chicken skin. Some scientists decided that the " good stuff " in chicken soup that helps a cold is from the chicken skin boiling in the water. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 In a message dated 3/28/2004 3:54:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, karenr@... writes: Heidi > Some scientists decided that the " good stuff " in chicken soup that > helps a cold is from the chicken skin boiling in the water. I always wondered about that.. I read recently that it's the amino acid cysteine that's abundant in chicken. Maybe you get more of it from boiling in water than from chicken cooked other ways.. does that make sense? - Rose :-) .. .. L-cysteine is one of three sulfur containing amino acids, also found in dairy products. mjh http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Heidi > Some scientists decided that the " good stuff " in chicken soup that > helps a cold is from the chicken skin boiling in the water. I always wondered about that.. I read recently that it's the amino acid cysteine that's abundant in chicken. Maybe you get more of it from boiling in water than from chicken cooked other ways.. does that make sense? - Rose :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 In a message dated 3/28/04 8:10:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, stordock@... writes: > Chickens handle nitrogenous wastes differently than mammals. > They excrete nitrogenous wastes as urate, which is water insoluable. > It's the white stuff in their poop. Interesting. How can a base be water-insoluble? Presumably it is insoluble as a salt? > If the skin, is cooked to a crisp it likely is over cooked and would > contain carcinogens though. Considering the almost negligible percentage of calories and total food volume chicken skin makes up in most people's diet, I don't think the cancer threat is worth giving up this absolutely delicious delicacy. Chicken probably shouldn't be over-emphasized in the diet anyway, so eating most of your meats raw or rare, and not overcooking the actual chicken meat, but letting the skin brown, should probably cover the bases. As to the benefit of chicken soup being from the skin, I've always made my chicken stock with primarily bones, and only remnants of skin (I use bones from a roast chicken, the skin and meat of which I eat roasted) and it's a fantastic remedy, so whatever is good is also in the bones. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 In a message dated 3/28/2004 10:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, ChrisMasterjohn@... writes: As to the benefit of chicken soup being from the skin, I've always made my chicken stock with primarily bones, and only remnants of skin (I use bones from a roast chicken, the skin and meat of which I eat roasted) and it's a fantastic remedy, so whatever is good is also in the bones. Chris .. .. Chris It's called marrow. mjh http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Chickens handle nitrogenous wastes differently than mammals. They excrete nitrogenous wastes as urate, which is water insoluable. It's the white stuff in their poop. http://www.holisticbirds.com/hbn03/spring03/pages/urinarysystem.htm Btw, chickens don't have sweat glands. If the skin, is cooked to a crisp it likely is over cooked and would contain carcinogens though. http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc99/4_24_99/bob1.htm " Diners who see red when their meat and poultry isn't thoroughly browned and seasoned with a hint of char might scoff at the notion that their taste preference jeopardizes their health. A growing body of data suggests, however, that well-done meat, rife with heterocyclic amines (HCAs), poses a substantial, preventable cancer threat. " " Human data on HCA risks have just begun to emerge. For instance, women who routinely eat very well-done meat-with a crispy, blackened crust-face quintuple the breast-cancer risk of women who consume their meat rare or medium, according to a study last year by scientists at the National Cancer Institute (NCI) in Bethesda, Md., and two midwestern universities. " Regards, Bruce. From: " " > I don't agree with this but some people say that you shouldn't eat > the wonderfully, tasty, crispy chiken skin for some reasons. One > bieng that chiken urinate through the skin. Any body have any thing > to say about this > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 >I always wondered about that.. I read recently that it's the amino >acid cysteine that's abundant in chicken. Maybe you get more of it >from boiling in water than from chicken cooked other ways.. does that >make sense? > >- Rose :-) http://halife.com/living/health/decsoup.html Doctors say just leaning over a bowl of warm soup seems to help break up nasal congestion. There's a good reason for its effectiveness. Pulmonary specialists at the University of California at Los Angeles say an amino acid in chicken called cysteine is similar to a drug called acetylcysteine. Acetylcysteine was originally derived from chicken feathers and chicken skin and is prescribed for patients with respiratory conditions. Maybe it is found in all the chicken, and just more of it in skin and feathers? The best sources seem to be hair and feathers, as is discussed in this article about the kosher-ness of l-cystein supplements: http://www.kashrut.com/articles/L_cysteine/ As we have seen, the issues relating to l-cysteine traverse the gamut of Halachic literature. But it may also be interesting to note one more unique property of l-cysteine that was recognized in the time of the Talmud. The Gemorah (Shabbos 145b) relates that Rav Abbah had a special chicken recipe, which Rashi explains to be a chicken that he cooked and allowed to steep for several days in hot water until it dissolved, after which it was eaten for medicinal purposes. While Rashi does not indicate for what ailment chicken soup was prescribed, the Rambam prescribed just such a chicken soup to treat the asthma of Prince Al-Afdal in the court of Saladin. It seems that the l-cysteine naturally found in chicken feathers and skin is very similar to the mucus-thinning drug acetylcysteine, and chicken soup and its l-cysteine may indeed be just what the doctor ordered. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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