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The fruit vinegar should be taken on an empty stomach for full impact. This is

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Conquering Yeast/ Gut Treatment in Germany

Dear listers,

I am currently attending a Heilprakterin School which has beena mind-boggling

experience. I say this because we are hearing about the other side of modern

medicine, something which is not altogether new for frequent visitors to these

lists. Heilprakterinen are subject to the same first State Exam in Germany as

medical doctors. Areas such as surgery and pharmaceutical know-how are not part

of the curricula ( for obvious reasons). We do however learn how to give

injections sub-cutaneous up to i.m. but tis is the extent of our invasive

medical treatment.

My daughter has improved dramatically over the years but there are some

glitches. Recently I decided that perhaps I should really try a GFCF diet as her

lab tests had indicated this. I had been loathe to do this as she is a picky

eater anyway and it would have been WW3 trying to get this up and running.

As Europe is full of neat and interesting sorts of health clinics, I cast my eye

around looking for a GFCF clinic just to try out a two week stint in an enclosed

space without the temptations to see if this would make a difference. Not

surprising, I couldn't find anything of a sort..Gluten free yes but not together

with cassein. I did find one clinic which came with wonderful recommendations

from a German lady I have befriended by email. Before I take that step however,

I will have to get a prescription from my doctor so that the health insurance

kicks in.

In the meantime, one of the teachers at my school introduced me to the idea of

Bach remedies, an area which I have not yet looked at but has since certainly

piqued my interest. The North American in me kept rebelling against soft

remedies thinking always you need toget the big guns out for big problems..not

always so. Homeopathy has taught me otherwise.

Dr. Bach was a microbiologist ( think he did surgery also) who worked in

a London hospital in the 1920s. He carried out tests on all stool sent to his

lab irregardless of the diagnosis. He observed a particular bacteria which was

elevated in all chronic illnesses. He developed the idea to isolate this

bacteria, develop a vaccine and administer it orally. I don't know the name of

this bacteria but it appears to be one that only Bach has isolated and not

recognised by mainstream labs ( I love these sorts of things..may be it's part

of the puzzle which is being kept from us!!!)

The interesting part of this is that a stool sample is taken and sent to a

SPECIAL BACH oriented lab. There seems to be a BIG difference with the

preparation of the sample and what is generally required for lab samples at labs

in the States.

First of all, the Bach expert pointed out that certain bacteria decompose on

exposure to air. This should come as no surprise to us! Therefore the lab sends

you a special tube with a special preservative with the purpose of maintaining

these sorts of bacteria.

Secondly and this certainly gave me much food for thought...I was told to give

my daughter 3 tablespoons of fruit vinegar ( OBSTESSIG) in a glass of lukewarm

water to drink the night BEFORE the stool sample was to be taken. The Bach lady

pointed out that yeast does not like an acid environment. Lactic acid does ie

Lactobacillus but not yeast. Apparently, the fruit vinegar renders the gut so

inhospitable that the yeast crawl out of the crevices into the main intestinal

column. She said that they literally swim out! At some time in the history of

the labs, they noticed they were not getting high amounts of the expected

yeats, so tried this out and presto..lots of yeast in the stool.

It has occured to me that fruit vinegar ( apple also) may be an idea to rid

your child of yeast WITHOUT the die-off. I believe those on SCD are not allowed

vinegar so they will have to take this into consideration.

For children and adults with extreme sensitivities, gut and otherwise, I would

caution you to use just a little fruit vinegar to make sure there is no horrible

reaction before going on to the Full Monty.

Anyway the treatment is not outrageouslessy expensive and is worth a try. I sent

in a sample last week and am waiting with baited breath.

I tried the fruit vinegar also just to give my daughter moral support. The next

day I was more alert and had more energy. I know a lot of Germans who use this

daily as part of a regime to lose weight.

I would love to hear back positive and negative from people who try the fruit

vinegar to rid yeast.

I ahve NO idea where you can find Bach labs in the States to carry out the above

test. Maybe someone based in the States can help. British and European residents

can avail themselves of the Bach lab in Berlin.

in Germany

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The fruit vinegar should be taken on an empty stomach for full impact. This is

very important.

Conquering Yeast/ Gut Treatment in Germany

Dear listers,

I am currently attending a Heilprakterin School which has beena mind-boggling

experience. I say this because we are hearing about the other side of modern

medicine, something which is not altogether new for frequent visitors to these

lists. Heilprakterinen are subject to the same first State Exam in Germany as

medical doctors. Areas such as surgery and pharmaceutical know-how are not part

of the curricula ( for obvious reasons). We do however learn how to give

injections sub-cutaneous up to i.m. but tis is the extent of our invasive

medical treatment.

My daughter has improved dramatically over the years but there are some

glitches. Recently I decided that perhaps I should really try a GFCF diet as her

lab tests had indicated this. I had been loathe to do this as she is a picky

eater anyway and it would have been WW3 trying to get this up and running.

As Europe is full of neat and interesting sorts of health clinics, I cast my eye

around looking for a GFCF clinic just to try out a two week stint in an enclosed

space without the temptations to see if this would make a difference. Not

surprising, I couldn't find anything of a sort..Gluten free yes but not together

with cassein. I did find one clinic which came with wonderful recommendations

from a German lady I have befriended by email. Before I take that step however,

I will have to get a prescription from my doctor so that the health insurance

kicks in.

In the meantime, one of the teachers at my school introduced me to the idea of

Bach remedies, an area which I have not yet looked at but has since certainly

piqued my interest. The North American in me kept rebelling against soft

remedies thinking always you need toget the big guns out for big problems..not

always so. Homeopathy has taught me otherwise.

Dr. Bach was a microbiologist ( think he did surgery also) who worked in

a London hospital in the 1920s. He carried out tests on all stool sent to his

lab irregardless of the diagnosis. He observed a particular bacteria which was

elevated in all chronic illnesses. He developed the idea to isolate this

bacteria, develop a vaccine and administer it orally. I don't know the name of

this bacteria but it appears to be one that only Bach has isolated and not

recognised by mainstream labs ( I love these sorts of things..may be it's part

of the puzzle which is being kept from us!!!)

The interesting part of this is that a stool sample is taken and sent to a

SPECIAL BACH oriented lab. There seems to be a BIG difference with the

preparation of the sample and what is generally required for lab samples at labs

in the States.

First of all, the Bach expert pointed out that certain bacteria decompose on

exposure to air. This should come as no surprise to us! Therefore the lab sends

you a special tube with a special preservative with the purpose of maintaining

these sorts of bacteria.

Secondly and this certainly gave me much food for thought...I was told to give

my daughter 3 tablespoons of fruit vinegar ( OBSTESSIG) in a glass of lukewarm

water to drink the night BEFORE the stool sample was to be taken. The Bach lady

pointed out that yeast does not like an acid environment. Lactic acid does ie

Lactobacillus but not yeast. Apparently, the fruit vinegar renders the gut so

inhospitable that the yeast crawl out of the crevices into the main intestinal

column. She said that they literally swim out! At some time in the history of

the labs, they noticed they were not getting high amounts of the expected

yeats, so tried this out and presto..lots of yeast in the stool.

It has occured to me that fruit vinegar ( apple also) may be an idea to rid

your child of yeast WITHOUT the die-off. I believe those on SCD are not allowed

vinegar so they will have to take this into consideration.

For children and adults with extreme sensitivities, gut and otherwise, I would

caution you to use just a little fruit vinegar to make sure there is no horrible

reaction before going on to the Full Monty.

Anyway the treatment is not outrageouslessy expensive and is worth a try. I sent

in a sample last week and am waiting with baited breath.

I tried the fruit vinegar also just to give my daughter moral support. The next

day I was more alert and had more energy. I know a lot of Germans who use this

daily as part of a regime to lose weight.

I would love to hear back positive and negative from people who try the fruit

vinegar to rid yeast.

I ahve NO idea where you can find Bach labs in the States to carry out the above

test. Maybe someone based in the States can help. British and European residents

can avail themselves of the Bach lab in Berlin.

in Germany

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Forgot to add this.

The fruit vinegar should be taken on an empty stomach for full impact. This is

very important.

Conquering Yeast/ Gut Treatment in Germany

Dear listers,

I am currently attending a Heilprakterin School which has beena mind-boggling

experience. I say this because we are hearing about the other side of modern

medicine, something which is not altogether new for frequent visitors to these

lists. Heilprakterinen are subject to the same first State Exam in Germany as

medical doctors. Areas such as surgery and pharmaceutical know-how are not part

of the curricula ( for obvious reasons). We do however learn how to give

injections sub-cutaneous up to i.m. but tis is the extent of our invasive

medical treatment.

My daughter has improved dramatically over the years but there are some

glitches. Recently I decided that perhaps I should really try a GFCF diet as her

lab tests had indicated this. I had been loathe to do this as she is a picky

eater anyway and it would have been WW3 trying to get this up and running.

As Europe is full of neat and interesting sorts of health clinics, I cast my eye

around looking for a GFCF clinic just to try out a two week stint in an enclosed

space without the temptations to see if this would make a difference. Not

surprising, I couldn't find anything of a sort..Gluten free yes but not together

with cassein. I did find one clinic which came with wonderful recommendations

from a German lady I have befriended by email. Before I take that step however,

I will have to get a prescription from my doctor so that the health insurance

kicks in.

In the meantime, one of the teachers at my school introduced me to the idea of

Bach remedies, an area which I have not yet looked at but has since certainly

piqued my interest. The North American in me kept rebelling against soft

remedies thinking always you need toget the big guns out for big problems..not

always so. Homeopathy has taught me otherwise.

Dr. Bach was a microbiologist ( think he did surgery also) who worked in

a London hospital in the 1920s. He carried out tests on all stool sent to his

lab irregardless of the diagnosis. He observed a particular bacteria which was

elevated in all chronic illnesses. He developed the idea to isolate this

bacteria, develop a vaccine and administer it orally. I don't know the name of

this bacteria but it appears to be one that only Bach has isolated and not

recognised by mainstream labs ( I love these sorts of things..may be it's part

of the puzzle which is being kept from us!!!)

The interesting part of this is that a stool sample is taken and sent to a

SPECIAL BACH oriented lab. There seems to be a BIG difference with the

preparation of the sample and what is generally required for lab samples at labs

in the States.

First of all, the Bach expert pointed out that certain bacteria decompose on

exposure to air. This should come as no surprise to us! Therefore the lab sends

you a special tube with a special preservative with the purpose of maintaining

these sorts of bacteria.

Secondly and this certainly gave me much food for thought...I was told to give

my daughter 3 tablespoons of fruit vinegar ( OBSTESSIG) in a glass of lukewarm

water to drink the night BEFORE the stool sample was to be taken. The Bach lady

pointed out that yeast does not like an acid environment. Lactic acid does ie

Lactobacillus but not yeast. Apparently, the fruit vinegar renders the gut so

inhospitable that the yeast crawl out of the crevices into the main intestinal

column. She said that they literally swim out! At some time in the history of

the labs, they noticed they were not getting high amounts of the expected

yeats, so tried this out and presto..lots of yeast in the stool.

It has occured to me that fruit vinegar ( apple also) may be an idea to rid

your child of yeast WITHOUT the die-off. I believe those on SCD are not allowed

vinegar so they will have to take this into consideration.

For children and adults with extreme sensitivities, gut and otherwise, I would

caution you to use just a little fruit vinegar to make sure there is no horrible

reaction before going on to the Full Monty.

Anyway the treatment is not outrageouslessy expensive and is worth a try. I sent

in a sample last week and am waiting with baited breath.

I tried the fruit vinegar also just to give my daughter moral support. The next

day I was more alert and had more energy. I know a lot of Germans who use this

daily as part of a regime to lose weight.

I would love to hear back positive and negative from people who try the fruit

vinegar to rid yeast.

I ahve NO idea where you can find Bach labs in the States to carry out the above

test. Maybe someone based in the States can help. British and European residents

can avail themselves of the Bach lab in Berlin.

in Germany

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