Re: Dry Skin & VCO - was Side effects of Fish oils

[Guest guest]

-Jo,

> I have just started using it (VCO) on my skin - I am experimenting using it

> on the right side of my face, my right arm, hand, and leg (with spot

> treatment of a touch of eczema on my left arm). The right side of my

> body has never been as dry and flaky as it is now!

I have also been trying to use coconut oil on my skin (that is what VCO is,

right?) at the recommendations of my nutritionist amd TBM practitioner, and it

just doesn't seem to be ease this dry (pregnant) skin at all. Nothing really

seems to work. (I've been using nothing but rotated oils on my skin for years

due to allergic reactions). I wondered what your old regime was. (I'm

desperate.)

I'm hoping things improve post-partum. I didn't have these problems during my

first pregnancy, though I was quite dry once I started nursing.

Thanks for any tips.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

kathy - did someone already say this: do you eat grains, soy, casein, or

EFAs? cause if you eat grain, try cutting that out, and casein to. if you

eat soy then just shame on you

and if you don't take CLO or something for EFAs, perhaps adding that will

help...

-katja

At 04:40 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:

>I have also been trying to use coconut oil on my skin (that is what VCO is,

>right?) at the recommendations of my nutritionist amd TBM practitioner,

>and it

>just doesn't seem to be ease this dry (pregnant) skin at all. Nothing really

>seems to work. (I've been using nothing but rotated oils on my skin for years

>due to allergic reactions). I wondered what your old regime was. (I'm

>desperate.)

>

>I'm hoping things improve post-partum. I didn't have these problems during my

>first pregnancy, though I was quite dry once I started nursing.

>

>Thanks for any tips.

>

>Kathy

[Guest guest]

I have been visiting a FLAX oil list and ppl are extremely happy with

how there skin feels taking that. According to them you must mix it

with a high sulfur protein. They suggest either cottage cheese or

yoghurt. If you use CC. Mix it 1 tablespoon FO with 2 tablespoons low

fat CC. If its yoghurt then mix 1 tablespoon FO with 6 tablespoons

yoghurt. Mix it well so the FO is completely blended in. I think you

can take that amount several times a day, but not sure. They claim

that you will see results within 3 days. I started taking it mixed

with kefiili but not getting results as yet. I may need more which I

plan to do. I am not sure that kefiili is a high sulfur protein though.

Del

> >I have also been trying to use coconut oil on my skin (that is what

VCO is,

> >right?) at the recommendations of my nutritionist amd TBM

practitioner,

> >and it

> >just doesn't seem to be ease this dry (pregnant) skin at all.

Nothing really

> >seems to work. (I've been using nothing but rotated oils on my skin

for years

> >due to allergic reactions). I wondered what your old regime was. (I'm

> >desperate.)

> >

> >I'm hoping things improve post-partum. I didn't have these problems

during my

> >first pregnancy, though I was quite dry once I started nursing.

> >

> >Thanks for any tips.

> >

> >Kathy

[Guest guest]

Katja:

> kathy - did someone already say this: do you eat grains, soy, casein, or

> EFAs? cause if you eat grain, try cutting that out, and casein to. if you

> eat soy then just shame on you

> and if you don't take CLO or something for EFAs, perhaps adding that will

> help...

>

> -katja

I am thinking about getting the gluten test Heidi talks about. But I've

been tested for gluten several times by my TBM doctor. Last time she

" scanned my gut " with the gluten, but found nothing. And when she originally

tested me on all the grains, only corn came up. This is a hard question for me

though: if, as the articles Heidi recommend say, gluten (and casein too

sometimes?) allergies do not show up in the blood, does this mean they also

will not show up as a weakness during muscle testing? My doc doesn't think

so, of course. The tests are a big chunk of money. We have just gotten new

insurance, and I could try to find a physician who would order them, but I don't

know how to find one who won't just laugh me out of the office. I can hear my

dh when I try to explain buying a couple of tests (for myself and ds) online for

$300+ a pop.

The thing is, the dry skin is recent and the extreme dry skin is VERY recent,

only during the last few months of my pregnancy. I think I'm gonna wait until

the baby is born, then see what happens with my skin.

I don't eat soy, not since I read Weston Price, anyway. =-) I've cut grains very

much, as I try to manage this glucose test thing (just took the test today,

actually, and hoping for the best). I only eat 1-2 small servings a day, always

whole grain, soaked or spouted. My nutritionist cut all dairy but raw cheese,

cottage cheese and cream cheese, to avoid spiking my blood sugar. I was

eating raw milk, yogurt and kefir most days. I don't know about cutting the raw

dairy totally during pregnancy anyway, which I would have to do to remove

casein, right? I do take CLO and High Vitamin Butter Oil as well as the

Standard Process Vitamins and Primal Defense. I'm trying to combine carbs

and proteins and have cut all sugars, too. By EFAs, do you mean essential

fatty acids? I know they're in lots of foods, but I didn't know they were to

avoid,

except the trans/rancid sort.

BTW, I just found out our new insurance will cover our homebirth with no

deductible. This is very exciting. Just hope the glucose test turns out OK, at

least low enough that the birthing center will still take me as a homebirth

client.

Not certain about the gluten/casein thing yet. Still trying to figure that one

out.

Thanks for the note.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

At 06:58 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:

>allergies do not show up in the blood, does this mean they also

>will not show up as a weakness during muscle testing? My doc doesn't think

>so, of course. The tests are a big chunk of money

Have you tried pulse testing? I.e. take your pulse, resting. Eat a meal.

Take your pulse again 1/2 an hour later, then an hour later. The test

is most accurate if you avoid the food being tested for 5 days prior.

I haven't seen this scientifically tested, but I know when I eat

gluten or casein I have a stress reaction, though it takes awhile (usually

an hour or so after the meal). My pulse goes up (it used to be 90, ALWAYS ...

the nurse would always say 'Oh, you really are nervous' ... but it was 90 even

when I was totally relaxed) and the room starts feeling cold. But the reaction

is *internal* ... handling wheat stuff doesn't cause any reaction unless I get

it under my nails and then do something stupid like try to get something out

from between my teeth with my nail. It probably WOULD show up in

muscle testing if the person ATE the offending substance after not eating

it for awhile.

Anyway, THAT test doesn't cost anything. It is also interesting to take a

handwriting sample before and after (Suze, did you ever try that?).

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

--- In , " murphride " <kathy@r...>

wrote:

> I have also been trying to use coconut oil on my skin (that is what

VCO is,

> right?) at the recommendations of my nutritionist amd TBM

practitioner, and it

> just doesn't seem to be ease this dry (pregnant) skin at all.

Nothing really

> seems to work. (I've been using nothing but rotated oils on my skin

for years

> due to allergic reactions). I wondered what your old regime was.

(I'm

> desperate.)

I don't use soap or cleanser on my skin, just water (although that

still dries it out). At night, I splash with water, and leave it.

In the morning after a shower, I use a brand called Eucerin, which is

specifically for people with eczema or other skin conditions. My

skin is better if I don't use Eucerine, than if I use VCO instead of

Eucerin.

Jo

[Guest guest]

Thanks Heidi. I'd read about this testing before. I will try it.

As usual, your degree of specificity makes things much more clear to

me. (Too bad most of our doctors aren't like this.)

Kathy

> >allergies do not show up in the blood, does this mean they also

> >will not show up as a weakness during muscle testing? My doc

doesn't think

> >so, of course. The tests are a big chunk of money

>

> Have you tried pulse testing? I.e. take your pulse, resting. Eat a

meal.

> Take your pulse again 1/2 an hour later, then an hour later. The

test

> is most accurate if you avoid the food being tested for 5 days

prior.

>

> I haven't seen this scientifically tested, but I know when I eat

> gluten or casein I have a stress reaction, though it takes awhile

(usually

> an hour or so after the meal). My pulse goes up (it used to be 90,

ALWAYS ...

> the nurse would always say 'Oh, you really are nervous' ... but it

was 90 even

> when I was totally relaxed) and the room starts feeling cold. But

the reaction

> is *internal* ... handling wheat stuff doesn't cause any reaction

unless I get

> it under my nails and then do something stupid like try to get

something out

> from between my teeth with my nail. It probably WOULD show up in

> muscle testing if the person ATE the offending substance after not

eating

> it for awhile.

>

> Anyway, THAT test doesn't cost anything. It is also interesting to

take a

> handwriting sample before and after (Suze, did you ever try

that?).

>

> -- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

> I don't use soap or cleanser on my skin, just water (although that

> still dries it out). At night, I splash with water, and leave

it.

> In the morning after a shower, I use a brand called Eucerin, which

is

> specifically for people with eczema or other skin conditions. My

> skin is better if I don't use Eucerine, than if I use VCO instead

of

> Eucerin.

>

> Jo

Jo,

I've tried Eucerin, but I think there's some allergies there. Last

night I went back to my " old " routine. I think I was sabotaging it

by occassionally using different oils during the day. I break open a

Vitamin E capsule and add about an equal amount of lanolin. This is

rather sticky, takes a while to absorb and can get in your hair (and

cause little breakouts) but still, my skin is much better.

Thanks for answering my question.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

>>

>> Anyway, THAT test doesn't cost anything. It is also interesting to

>take a

>> handwriting sample before and after (Suze, did you ever try

>that?).

>>

>> -- Heidi Jean

No, but my handwriting sucks even when I'm normal :-) Guess it might just

suck worse when I'm reacting to something though, huh? I might try that

when I start introducing foods again after the pepto diet.

Suze Fisher

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Heidi Schuppenhauer "

>

> Anyway, THAT test doesn't cost anything. It is also interesting to take a

> handwriting sample before and after (Suze, did you ever try that?).

I haven't tried that yet, but I should. I do know that I've often wondered

why my handwriting looks very different at times, even though I hold my

pen/pencil the same way. Perhaps it's when I'm reacting to a certain food.

I'll have to pay more attention to it.

~ Fern