Re: gum free coconut milk

[Guest guest]

> I just received a reply from Natural Value regarding guar gum. They said

> their organic coconut milk has carageenan and their unorganic milk has

> nothing added (which is why it's a big clump at the top of the can). I

think

> someone said this already but thought i'd give you the official reply from

> the company. How are non-organic coconut trees treated? Do they have an

> intense pesticide or fungicide load? Isn't carageenan ok?

> Elaine

Elaine,

Don't know how non organic coconut trees are treated. Coconut oil online for

example can't call their's organic because of the ine's strict

organic laws which don't allow livestock dung. As it comes from small

growers who raise cattle too its not worth it to put the restriction to be

able to attach the organic name. Carageenan is not good. Dedy posted links

here while back. Wheather that is everybody, don't know. Carageenan and gums

slow my digestion. Can tell whatever it was in is sitting in my stomach.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Actually it's called Natural Value and i emailed the company to ask them.

It's canned in Thailand so it's possible they don't know or are misinformed.

Elaine

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/04 5:21:07 PM, itchyink@... writes:

> Actually it's called Natural Value and i emailed the company to ask them.

> It's canned in Thailand so it's possible they don't know or are misinformed.

> Elaine

>

>

>

Elaine,

That one has gums I think. I bought a can and I'm positive it had gums in it.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

I used to purchase Natural Value and there were no gums listed on the

label. However recently I noticed this brand has added " less than 1%

carrageenan " to the list of ingredients.

The only pure coconut cream I have found is made by thai and it can

only be purchased here in Bend OR,in tiny cans at a premium price. It

is called Thai Kitchen whole coconut milk. I like this one the bes of

all of the brands.In the WAP shopping guide they list this Thai brand

and Kame whole coconut milk. Has anyone found the Kame brand?

Carrageenan moss tea is listed in the recipes of Nourhishing

Traditions. Perhaps the processing of the carregeean makes it unfit

for human consumption? Does anyone know if that is true? The

carregeenan does not taste like the addition of other gums. In fact I

cannot taste it at all in the Natural Value brand.

TIA,

Sheila

>

> In a message dated 4/21/04 5:21:07 PM, itchyink@s... writes:

>

>

> > Actually it's called Natural Value and i emailed the company to

ask them.

> > It's canned in Thailand so it's possible they don't know or are

misinformed.

> > Elaine

> >

> >

> >

>

> Elaine,

> That one has gums I think. I bought a can and I'm positive it had

gums in it.

>

> Elainie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the tiny cans, but

they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--how bad is

guar gum anyway??

----- Original Message -----

> The only pure coconut cream I have found is made by thai and it can

> only be purchased here in Bend OR,in tiny cans at a premium price. It

> is called Thai Kitchen whole coconut milk.

[Guest guest]

>I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the tiny cans, but

>they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--how bad is

>guar gum anyway??

>

>

Guar gum is from a plant, I believe. It's not harmful per se, but it

bothers some people's digestion. Some people get along with

it just fine.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

I remember taking guar gum supplements back in my diet days to fill me up so

i wouldn't be hungry. Didn't really work

Elaine

>> I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the tiny cans, but

>> they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--how bad is

>> guar gum anyway??

>>

>>

>

> Guar gum is from a plant, I believe. It's not harmful per se, but it

> bothers some people's digestion. Some people get along with

> it just fine.

>

> -- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

> I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the tiny cans,

but

> they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--how bad is

> guar gum anyway??

>

>

Oh my gosh! They are adding guar gum to the 5.5 oz. can now! Just checked my

cans. Haven't read the label recently knowing that was the only size that

was pure. Pure is replaced with premium on front of can. If I'd read that

I've known. That's disgusting! Many people appealed to Thai Kitchen on the

coconut list not to add guar gum to the larger cans year or so ago. The

larger cans with guar gum slow my digestion. Haven't noticed that with the

5.5 oz. cans even though I at least have been eating it with gum for the

last 3 days. Have noticed lately it seems to not be doing what it used to

for me. My skin isn't as soft as it was and it doesn't give me the energy it

used to. Gum gums up the coconut process. What to do now? Did find the other

Sally recommends once. Taste and thickness was no where near Thai Kitchen

small can.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Today at the health food store I noticed there are two different

Natual Value cans of coconut milk. One reads ORGANIC and it contians

the carregeean, the other simply reads coconut milk and only contains

coconut milk and water. No preservatives! Wonderful and quite

amazing. It may be possible to order this coconut milk by the case

through a local health food store.

Sheila

> > I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the tiny

cans,

> but

> > they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--

how bad is

> > guar gum anyway??

> >

> >

>

> Oh my gosh! They are adding guar gum to the 5.5 oz. can now! Just

checked my

> cans. Haven't read the label recently knowing that was the only

size that

> was pure. Pure is replaced with premium on front of can. If I'd

read that

> I've known. That's disgusting! Many people appealed to Thai Kitchen

on the

> coconut list not to add guar gum to the larger cans year or so ago.

The

> larger cans with guar gum slow my digestion. Haven't noticed that

with the

> 5.5 oz. cans even though I at least have been eating it with gum

for the

> last 3 days. Have noticed lately it seems to not be doing what it

used to

> for me. My skin isn't as soft as it was and it doesn't give me the

energy it

> used to. Gum gums up the coconut process. What to do now? Did find

the other

> Sally recommends once. Taste and thickness was no where near Thai

Kitchen

> small can.

>

> Wanita

[Guest guest]

> >I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the

tiny cans, but

> >they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--

how bad is

> >guar gum anyway??

> >

> >

>

> Guar gum is from a plant, I believe. It's not harmful per se, but

it

> bothers some people's digestion. Some people get along with

> it just fine.

>

> -- Heidi Jean

I recently tried drinking a can of coconut milk with guar gum in it

and I got a tummy ache from it (felt like it wasn't digesting), but

then again I'm still trying to figure out if I'm allergic to coconut

or not.

~~Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Used to order Thai Kitchen small cans by the case from from United co-op

buying club. Can't find in catalog anymore. Glad I didn't buy more than a

few cans not knowing they added gum. Google search found Natural Value

available online http://www.shopnatural.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc Looks

like their aseptic is " only " coconut milk. Only organic cans here. All have

carrageenan. Carrageenan and gums both affect me the same. Thanks!

Wanita

> Today at the health food store I noticed there are two different

> Natual Value cans of coconut milk. One reads ORGANIC and it contians

> the carregeean, the other simply reads coconut milk and only contains

> coconut milk and water. No preservatives! Wonderful and quite

> amazing. It may be possible to order this coconut milk by the case

> through a local health food store.

> Sheila

>

> > > I used to buy the pure coconut milk from Thai Kitchen in the tiny

> cans,

> > but

> > > they've added a gum to the list of ingredients recently. BTW--

> how bad is

> > > guar gum anyway??

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Oh my gosh! They are adding guar gum to the 5.5 oz. can now! Just

> checked my

> > cans. Haven't read the label recently knowing that was the only

> size that

> > was pure. Pure is replaced with premium on front of can. If I'd

> read that

> > I've known. That's disgusting! Many people appealed to Thai Kitchen

> on the

> > coconut list not to add guar gum to the larger cans year or so ago.

> The

> > larger cans with guar gum slow my digestion. Haven't noticed that

> with the

> > 5.5 oz. cans even though I at least have been eating it with gum

> for the

> > last 3 days. Have noticed lately it seems to not be doing what it

> used to

> > for me. My skin isn't as soft as it was and it doesn't give me the

> energy it

> > used to. Gum gums up the coconut process. What to do now? Did find

> the other

> > Sally recommends once. Taste and thickness was no where near Thai

> Kitchen

> > small can.

> >

> > Wanita

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Heidi-

>It's not harmful per se, but it

>bothers some people's digestion.

That's sort of like saying " getting hit by a car isn't harmful per se, but

it bothers some people's bodies " .

-

[Guest guest]

>Heidi-

>

>>It's not harmful per se, but it

>>bothers some people's digestion.

>

>That's sort of like saying " getting hit by a car isn't harmful per se, but

>it bothers some people's bodies " .

>

>-

Heh heh. So, how about lactose? Is it harmful per se, because

it happens to bother a whole lot of people? Some people take

guar gum because they believe it *helps* their digestion.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

I just received a reply from Natural Value regarding guar gum. They said

their organic coconut milk has carageenan and their unorganic milk has

nothing added (which is why it's a big clump at the top of the can). I think

someone said this already but thought i'd give you the official reply from

the company. How are non-organic coconut trees treated? Do they have an

intense pesticide or fungicide load? Isn't carageenan ok?

Elaine

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know of a *pure* coconut milk other than that from WFN that

comes in bottles? My WFN cork bottle caps are definitely leeching into the

milk and I'm going to return it. I'm also not interested in cans as I don't

want to consume aluminum which I assume leeches from the cans. I think my

metal burden's already high enough right now without adding to it further.

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[Guest guest]

Heidi-

>So, how about lactose? Is it harmful per se, because

>it happens to bother a whole lot of people? Some people take

>guar gum because they believe it *helps* their digestion.

The harmfulness of lactose obviously depends on the consumer's ability to

produce lactase. As to guar gum, there are, AFAIK, only degrees of

harm. Some people can get away with eating it for awhile, others can't,

and just as there are people who take it to help their digestion, there are

people who consume loads of soy to help with all kinds of

conditions. They're mistaken.

-

[Guest guest]

>The harmfulness of lactose obviously depends on the consumer's ability to

>produce lactase. As to guar gum, there are, AFAIK, only degrees of

>harm. Some people can get away with eating it for awhile, others can't,

>and just as there are people who take it to help their digestion, there are

>people who consume loads of soy to help with all kinds of

>conditions. They're mistaken.

>

>

>-

So where have you heard about harmfulness of guar? It's

not something I use (tho I do use xanthan gum) but it

isn't something I've heard much about either.

-- Heidi Jean