Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 >Hi All, > >Does anyone know where I can get tested for casein/gluten intolerance >and what kind of tests to request? I have taken food allergy tests w/a >naturopath and had kineseolgy (Sp?) testing which have not shown a >problem, but I am suspicious because I have some health issues that >have not resolved. I decided to stop eating gluten for now which is >not too big of a deal for me at this point, but would like to know if >it's absolutely necessary, and I would love to continue eating my raw >dairy! > >Thanks! > The only test that is very accurate AFAIK is Dr. Fine's (www.finerhealth.com) which he offers direct to the public, but it's pretty pricey. He checks for IgA in the stool, since IgA usually stays in the gut. Most " food allergy " tests are IgE (skin) or IgG (), which are different. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 >Hi All, > >Does anyone know where I can get tested for casein/gluten intolerance >and what kind of tests to request? I have taken food allergy tests w/a >naturopath and had kineseolgy (Sp?) testing which have not shown a >problem, but I am suspicious because I have some health issues that >have not resolved. I decided to stop eating gluten for now which is >not too big of a deal for me at this point, but would like to know if >it's absolutely necessary, and I would love to continue eating my raw >dairy! > >Thanks! > P.S. -- using the pulse test or some such is a quick and dirty way to see if you react to a food ... avoid the food for a week, then eat a fair bit of it, taking your pulse before and after, also handwriting samples. Also you can do a general " allergy avoidance " diet (there was a thread on this last week, I think) eating just fruit, meat, vegies ... add stuff back gradually after 10 days or so. Pulse testing doesn't tell you WHAT KIND of reaction it is, but it seems to pretty accurately show if you don't get along with a food. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Hi Heidi Thanks so much for this info! Just checked out the web site. Have you done his testing? What are your thoughts on the testing for casein sensitivity if one is only consuming raw dairy? Casein is altered in pasteurization process? Thanks again, > > The only test that is very accurate AFAIK is Dr. Fine's (www.finerhealth.com) > which he offers direct to the public, but it's pretty pricey. He checks for IgA > in the stool, since IgA usually stays in the gut. Most " food allergy " tests > are IgE (skin) or IgG (), which are different. > > -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 >Hi Heidi >Thanks so much for this info! Just checked out the web site. Have you >done his testing? What are your thoughts on the testing for casein >sensitivity if one is only consuming raw dairy? Casein is altered in >pasteurization process? >Thanks again, > Yes, I did the testing. I don't think pasteurization alters the casein as far as allergies go ... it may make it less *digestable* so more gets to the upper gut instead of being digested in the stomach as it should be. But it takes very little of the offending substance to trigger IgA reactions! Dr. Fine feels that even when a person has been avoiding gluten, there probably is still some IgA antigliadin being produced in the gut, because there is just so much of it in our environment it's impossible to avoid totally. I'd think it is the same for casein and raw milk. The tricky part is interpreting the results. Doctors usually have a cutoff, which is rather arbitrary. For example, a result of " 20 " might indicate casein intolerance. But what does it mean is you have a score of 18? 18 means that you DO react to casein, but not as much ... if your body is producing IgA to react to a *food* then one has to wonder *why* your body is reacting to it. Also all the research to date has been done in IgA gluten itolerance, and then only on the really bad cases (celiac is only diagnosed after the villi are basically destroyed ... if the villi are only damaged a little bit it's not considered celiac ... it's kind of like only diagnosing diabetes after you have gangrene). No one really knows what an IgA intolerance to casein or corn or yeast *does*. Reactions to gluten cause the body to produce all kinds of autoimmune antibodies (Dangerous Grains lists 19 different *known* antibodies), but what does casein do? In rats and probably humans it can trigger T1 diabetes and in kids it can cause villi damage, but there just hasn't been much study on it. Dr. Fine is one of the first researchers to even test for it. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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