Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Thank you for sharing that Wanita. Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 > ><http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0ISW/2002_Dec/94538644/p1/article.jhtml?term\ =>http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0ISW/2002_Dec/94538644/p1/article.jhtml?term\ = > >Gluten Intolerance: A paradigm of an epidemic > >Lots that's been discussed recently, opioid effects and author's opinion >that 1 in 10 are affected. > >Whoever sent the article from findarticles.com before, thanks!, great >resource! having an interesting time there. > >Wanita I like their mention of " overlapping syndromes " . It might be, for example, that people with gluten intolerance can't handle mercury loads as well as other folks, or other environmental toxins (as in Gulf War Syndrome). It also mentions Zonulin, which is produced in folks that react to gluten and causes " leaky gut " and " leaky brain " . I think THAT is going to turn out to be very important. One Autism researcher was saying that sure, their might be rogue proteins (opioids) in the gut, but how do they get OUT of the gut and why do they leak into the brain? He was surmising some underlying permeability issue ... which zonulin fits nicely. It also talks a lot about the testing issue. ) Ron Hoggan calls it the " Plague of the 20th Century. " Many who suffer from gluten intolerance do not know it. In fact, the current requirement of a diagnosis of Celiac Disease with a positive, small intestinal biopsy, in order to be considered " gluten intolerant, " is actually harmful for the entire population. Our diagnostic tools are currently inadequate to uncover all of the conditions that gluten intolerance underlies or contributes to. Not only are those with CD being misdiagnosed but other diseases are being ruled out as gluten-related conditions, due to inaccurate and inadequate diagnostic techniques. Great article! -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I honestly have come to the conclusion that grains do no one any good. Okay, I had come to this conclusion many times and thought it was just me who couldn't handle them but I think most people do not in fact handle grains and most if not all ill health syptoms are the result of overconsuming grains. One out of every three children in the UK has eczema, wonder why? I think leaky placenta syndrome and the tendancy to give grain as a first food is a major cause. And look around at all the babies with cradle cap. Parents need to wake up! Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Heidi, Lets think about those Asian cultures? Are they really that much healthier? Evidence does seem to point in that direction as surely they eat or used to eat a wider variety of foods than US folks have. But they have health problems too from what I've studied. Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 >I honestly have come to the conclusion that grains do no one any good. Okay, >I had come to this conclusion many times and thought it was just me who >couldn't handle them but I think most people do not in fact handle grains and most >if not all ill health syptoms are the result of overconsuming grains. One out >of every three children in the UK has eczema, wonder why? I think leaky >placenta syndrome and the tendancy to give grain as a first food is a major cause. >And look around at all the babies with cradle cap. Parents need to wake up! > >Elainie I tend to agree about the " gluten " grains and maybe corn ... but you also have to look at all those Asians who eat tons of rice and seem ok. Maybe they've been growing it so long they've bred out the irritating part. A lot of Price's healthy folk ate a fair bit of grain too, albeit not wheat. There are studies that seem show that gluten (Wheat/barley/rye gluten) tends to cause damage to people who don't have gluten intolerance, and the " autistic " style reaction seems to be a different thing too. But it's not JUST that it's the first food ... when they give wheat " food assistance " to African countries (who usually eat millet or sorghum) it seems to cause problems in the older children and adults. Nassssty ssstuffff that wheat ... -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 In a message dated 4/20/04 4:38:09 PM, heidis@... writes: > > However, the wheat and dairy content of their diet is going > way up now, and they smoke more than we do, and in a lot > of places, pollution is worse than here. So we may have lost > the " window of opportunity " to test their diet! It really does > seem to me though, that rice (even though it is empty calories > and high glycemic) isn't nearly as bad an allergen as wheat. > Some people ARE allergic to it, it has glutenin which some > people react to. > Yup, I seem to react to brown rice in a very bad way. I think gluten has pretty much contaminated every culture save for a few isolated hunter/gatherers left so it would be hard to compare. Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 >Heidi, >Lets think about those Asian cultures? Are they really that much healthier? >Evidence does seem to point in that direction as surely they eat or used to eat >a wider variety of foods than US folks have. >But they have health problems too from what I've studied. >Elainie Yeah, it would be interesting to compare them with, say, the paleo folks. Certainly they are short (and get taller on a higher protein diet). The Koreans I've seen though, don't have the " narrow sinus " problem that Price pointed out, their breast cancer rate is lower, and they live longer. OTOH they also are often overpopulated and starving and malnourished, so it's hard to say what part the diet is playing. However, the wheat and dairy content of their diet is going way up now, and they smoke more than we do, and in a lot of places, pollution is worse than here. So we may have lost the " window of opportunity " to test their diet! It really does seem to me though, that rice (even though it is empty calories and high glycemic) isn't nearly as bad an allergen as wheat. Some people ARE allergic to it, it has glutenin which some people react to. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 From: <zumicat@...> > > > Yup, I seem to react to brown rice in a very bad way. > I think gluten has pretty much contaminated every culture save for a few > isolated hunter/gatherers left so it would be hard to compare. > > Elainie > Geez, I could live on it, I love brown rice. Peace, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 In a message dated 4/20/04 8:42:37 PM, stordock@... writes: > > > Geez, I could live on it, I love brown rice. > > Peace, Bruce > I did live on it daily for 12 years, That's a big part of the picture here. Elainie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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