Re: Robbins article about soy...anti-Sally Fallon

[Guest guest]

What do I think? I think that anything that runs counter to his vegan mission

is automatically denied and blasted.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

I think Mr. Robbins should reference his claims, much like he does in his

books. Although his references are often news articles and popular fiction

rather than scientific journals.

But just look at the hypocrisy of making all the following baseless (as far

as I am concerned) claims without any scientific support, then he points the

finger and says Enig and Fallon do the same. I'd like to know what his

nutritional credentials are. I don't know about Sally Fallon, but

Enig's speak volumes. And he doesn't even reference the article about the

dangers of soy to which he refers. So I can't even go look at it and see

the notes or anything. Most sloppy. - Deanna

Excerpt follows. http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm

Let's look, one by one, at the minerals Fallon and Enig claim to be lacking

for vegetarians.

Zinc: It is wise for vegetarians to include plenty of zinc-rich foods in

their diets, but the levels of zinc found in the hair, saliva, and blood of

vegetarians are typically in the normal range. Zinc deficiency would be

particularly harmful in pregnant women, but studies of pregnant women have

consistently found no difference in zinc status between vegetarians and

nonvegetarians.

Iron: Vegetarian diets are much higher in vitamin C, and vitamin C greatly

enhances iron absorption, so even without eating red meat (which is high in

iron), and even with the reduction in iron absorption from phytates,

vegetarians are no more prone to iron deficiency than are nonvegetarians.

Copper: Vegetarian diets tend to be higher in copper, which overrides any

reduced rate of absorption from phytates. Vegans, in particular, consume

considerably more copper than meat-eaters.

Magnesium: Although the higher phytate content of soybeans and grains

slightly reduces magnesium absorption, vegetarians diets are typically so

much higher in this crucial mineral that vegetarians consistently show

markedly higher serum magnesium levels than do nonvegetarians.

Calcium: Calcium from soy is nearly as bioavailable as calcium from cow's

milk. Hundreds of studies have found vegetarians in the West to have

healthier bones, more positive calcium balance and less osteoporosis than

meat-eaters - as well as less heart disease, cancer, high blood pressure,

obesity, and diabetes, and substantially longer lifespans.

Without providing any supporting evidence, Fallon and Enig go on to say that

" soyfoods block calcium and cause vitamin D deficiencies… The reason that

Westerners have such high rates of osteoporosis is because they have

substituted soy oil for butter, which is a traditional source of vitamin

D…needed for calcium absorption. " Actually, as Westerners have eaten less

butter, they've replaced it with margarines which, like butter, are

fortified with vitamin D.

[Guest guest]

I noticed that too, Nanette! Especially about phytates!

I only got far enough to decide he either hadn't read, or

deliberately misinterpreted what Sally Fallon and Enig were

trying to say!

Ghislaine

> I think that he concedes many of the points that Fallon and Enig

make!!!

>

> Nanette