Re: Garden of Life Perfect Food

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I use the one without soy- there are two kinds. The juices have been

fermented and now I am concerned about the grass juices and celiac and am

thinking

hmm.. this could be causing some problems as I think I have celiac but I've

been off gluten for quite some time.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

OK, It's not the original formula- it has a green label and the original has

a blue label.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

> I use the one without soy- there are two kinds. The juices have

been

> fermented and now I am concerned about the grass juices and celiac

and am thinking

> hmm.. this could be causing some problems as I think I have celiac

but I've

> been off gluten for quite some time.

>

Hi Elainie

Please could you be more specific? Do you have the name and brand of

this supplement that you take?

Although, after Heidi's post, I am even more concerned about taking

it due to the Barley and Rye issue.

GoL have a product called Living Multi, which looks like it would

have the same health benefits as the perfect food supplement, but it

is considerably more exensive.

Thanks

Jo

[Guest guest]

It is called Perfect Food, I believe it must be the newer version of the

original one.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/19/04 9:21:29 PM, hjillcoy@... writes:

>

> this is kinda off topic but i was thinking of you today as i was using

> vanilla to make cupcakes and it said on my bottle " gluten-free " .  that made me

> recall that many products have gluten in them and i believe that in some cases

> it's not labeled?  i was going to remind myself to tell you that i once read a

> book on autism (Autism: Unraveling the Mystery by Seroussi) and she

> had her son on a gluten and casein free diet and i recall that she had a

> comprehensive list or perhaps some websites on which products were truly

> gluten-free.  a bit off the subject but you might want to take a look at that 

book as

> i think some parents of children with autism adhere strictly to these

> diets---as they find they work in many cases. 

>

> heather

>

Yeah, thanks , dh was once working with a nurse and her autistic and

ADD & ADHD patients and I remember the title of that book.

Elainie

>

>

[Guest guest]

> OK, It's not the original formula- it has a green label and the

original has

> a blue label.

>

> Elainie

>

>

Sorry Elainie - I'm not sure what you mean. Is it still

called " Perfect FOod " and is it Garden of Life? If so, I can't get

it here. The website I use only carries teh original.

Thanks

Jo

[Guest guest]

hi e,

this is kinda off topic but i was thinking of you today as i was using vanilla

to make cupcakes and it said on my bottle " gluten-free " . that made me recall

that many products have gluten in them and i believe that in some cases it's not

labeled? i was going to remind myself to tell you that i once read a book on

autism (Autism: Unraveling the Mystery by Seroussi) and she had her son on

a gluten and casein free diet and i recall that she had a comprehensive list or

perhaps some websites on which products were truly gluten-free. a bit off the

subject but you might want to take a look at that book as i think some parents

of children with autism adhere strictly to these diets---as they find they work

in many cases.

heather

zumicat@... wrote:

Hi,

I use the one without soy- there are two kinds. The juices have been

fermented and now I am concerned about the grass juices and celiac and am

thinking

hmm.. this could be causing some problems as I think I have celiac but I've

been off gluten for quite some time.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

>hi e,

>this is kinda off topic but i was thinking of you today as i was using vanilla

to make cupcakes and it said on my bottle " gluten-free " . that made me recall

that many products have gluten in them and i believe that in some cases it's not

labeled?

Not only that, but 16% of the ones labelled " gluten free " have gluten in them

when

tested. There are websites, and listgroups where people share their experiences

with a product too. I more or less gave up myself ... it's too difficult to

deal with food products (except stuff like vanilla extract!) so I stick to

basics

mostly. I figure anything produced on a production line is suspect. Plus most

of just doesn't taste as good ... I have gotten some GF cookies etc. but

homemade tastes better. And a big bowl of berries is even better.

I've never had any problem with any of McCormick seasonings though,

or Penzy's.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

The newer one has no soy, but has barley and rye grass (fermented).

I've now gone off of it to see if my scalp clears up.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

> I am tempted to buy the above product which is labelled a green

> superfood - expensive, but would probably work out cheaper than the

> vitamin supplements I am currently taking (Vit C, A, E and B

Complex).

>

> However, it contains soy bean, which is obviously not good. Does

> anyone else here take this product? Is the amount of soy in it

> harmful to health? (as it's a GoL product, it is pre-fermented and

> contains the soil enzymes etc).

>

> It also contains barley and rye, but is gluten free. I avoid these

> grains because of the gluten. If they are gluten free, then they

are

> not " whole food " , the gluten must have been extracted. This makes

me

> doubt the quality and claims of the supplement. So, does anyone

have

> thoughts on whether someone who is gluten sensitive should take

this

> or not?

>

> Thanks

>

> Jo

Garden of life has " perfect food original " , which is not fermented

and the have " perfect food " which has been fermented or what they call

potentzyme a process of fermentation with HSO soil organisms. From

my understanding these cereal grasses that are contained in the

formula are in juice form and the juice doesn't contain gluten. So

its not some process of removing something its just the result of the

juiceing process. It is better that it would be in the form of juice

rather than powdered grass because it is difficult to digest. Also

New Chapter just came out with a product calle dBerry green which

seems to great. Itsa 100% certified organic and it doesn't contain

any " cereal grass fillers " this is a unique perspective, they claim

that grass was not really meant to be consumed by humans but cows.

But really what humans are to consume is vegtables. So they have

nutrient dense vegtables such as Kale, spinich etc. and also berry

wich in the end seeems to be nicely rounded. It is also feremented.

I would reccomend this also.

[Guest guest]

> It is called Perfect Food, I believe it must be the newer version

of the

> original one.

>

Aha! In that case it does have soy and barley and rye in it, which

concerns me. However, the soy will be fermented, and I have no idea

whether or not I'm intolerant to barley and rye, so I might just risk

it

Jo

[Guest guest]

> The newer one has no soy, but has barley and rye grass (fermented).

> I've now gone off of it to see if my scalp clears up.

>

> Elainie

>

Elainie

The one with the green label definitely has soy, barley and rye in it:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/perfectfood.htm

Quote:

Grains and Seeds:

Flax Seeds*, Sesame Seeds*, Sunflower Seeds*, Pumpkin Seeds*, Chia

Seeds* Garbanzo Beans*, Red Lentils*, Soy Beans*, Kidney Beans*,

Azuki Beans*, Oats*, Barley*, Rye*, Millet*, Brown Rice*, Maize* and

Buckwheat* (Gluten and Phytate Free). Easily digestible grains, seeds

and legumes provide vitamins such as B complex and vitamin E,

Isoflavones, Fiber and essential fatty acids including Omega 3 and 6.

Perhaps something in that list is causing hte flaky scalp?

I found coconut oil made my skin flake, which is most odd

considering the beneficial effects it has on most other people

Jo

[Guest guest]

HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THAT!!! Guess what, I've been paleo for 3 days now,

and off PF. My scalp has cleared up!! Those fricken beans are everywhere.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

> From: zumicat@...

> Reply-

> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:24:35 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: Garden of Life Perfect Food

>

> HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THAT!!! Guess what, I've been paleo for 3 days now,

> and off PF. My scalp has cleared up!! Those fricken beans are everywhere.

>

> Elainie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

whoops, hit reply too early. Elainie, were you having a flaky scalp? That is

my one biggest health battle. You think it can cause cradle cap in a baby

through the breast milk too? It is from glutens...and beans? Today i get my

gluten test. I can't wait so i can stop eating it, and i'm only eating as

much or even less as what a regular SAD eater does. It has triggered a lot

of unpleasant effects.

Elaine

> HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THAT!!! Guess what, I've been paleo for 3 days now,

> and off PF. My scalp has cleared up!! Those fricken beans are everywhere.

[Guest guest]

i missed the first message (the one you must be replying to). so perfect food

has beans in it?! wow.

hooray clear scalp!

heather

zumicat@... wrote:

HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THAT!!! Guess what, I've been paleo for 3 days now,

and off PF. My scalp has cleared up!! Those fricken beans are everywhere.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/23/04 1:45:47 PM, itchyink@... writes:

> whoops, hit reply too early. Elainie, were you having a flaky scalp? That

> is

> my one biggest health battle. You think it can cause cradle cap in a baby

> through the breast milk too? It is from glutens...and beans? Today i get my

> gluten test. I can't wait so i can stop eating it, and i'm only eating as

> much or even less as what a regular SAD eater does. It has triggered a lot

> of unpleasant effects.

>

More than a flaky scalp, it will itch and burn and bleed. It was at an all

time high when I was macro (and on other areas of my body too). I was sugar free

back then as well as dairy free, nightshade free etc...

I think it could be casein intolerance, related to celiac etc...

Oh BTW on my Perfect Food there is NO SOY, I thought I was going crazy

misreading it and I asked my dh to read it too. No soy is listed. I knew I

couldn't

have missed that!

Elainie

[Guest guest]

I had some PF today, no itchy scalp.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Hi

Why is chlorella so frowned upon here? I'm taking garden of life perfect

food in between chelation but starting to have my doubts by everyones bad

feedback on it?

[Guest guest]

Lots of mercury poisoned people (myself included) have had bad

reactions/experiences with it. The sulfur groups in it redistribute

mercury but they don't bind tightly enough (it is not a proper

chelator) to help to excrete it. That leads to redistribution

symptoms and can lead to permanent irreversible damage.

Boyd Haley tested some chlorella and found that it was contaminated

with mercury - so who wants to add mercury to their diet and how can

anyone ensure a safe source. He concluded that the people who claimed

that chlorella gets mercury out got those results because they were

using mercury contaminated chlorella.

The hype about chlorella started because it can hold on to mercury in

an aquatic type environment. The human body is totally different.

> Hi

> Why is chlorella so frowned upon here? I'm taking garden of life

perfect

> food in between chelation but starting to have my doubts by

everyones bad

> feedback on it?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi

> Why is chlorella so frowned upon here?

I have read quite a few messages about kids regressing while using it,

and one specific story stands out to me, about the child NOT improving

when it was removed. Definitely watch your child for negative

reactions, and stop giving it if that might be happening.

Are you seeing any positives from using it?

Dana