Re: Acupressure for constipation

December 29, 2008

thanks Natasa. He was back on the ward this afternoon - they don't

know what's going on. Another consultant (our second consultant,

after 5 normal doctors) will review again tomorrow morning.

No temperature thank god, but other than that - scary.

I'll try this on him, might be very therapeutic and he IS still

somewhat loaded albeit we don't know if that's the symptom or the cause

xx

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> Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video some of the

> techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

>

> Natasa x

>

December 29, 2008

thanks Natasa. He was back on the ward this afternoon - they don't

know what's going on. Another consultant (our second consultant,

after 5 normal doctors) will review again tomorrow morning.

No temperature thank god, but other than that - scary.

I'll try this on him, might be very therapeutic and he IS still

somewhat loaded albeit we don't know if that's the symptom or the cause

xx

>

> Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video some of the

> techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

>

> Natasa x

>

December 29, 2008

what things did they rule out, if any?

nx

thanks Natasa. He was back on the ward this afternoon - they don't

know what's going on. Another consultant (our second consultant,

after 5 normal doctors) will review again tomorrow morning.

No temperature thank god, but other than that - scary.

I'll try this on him, might be very therapeutic and he IS still

somewhat loaded albeit we don't know if that's the symptom or the cause

xx

>

> Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video – some of the

> techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

>

> Natasa x

>

December 29, 2008

Oh Steph, how awful this must all be. Thinking about you all. Still no

massive explosions? Hoping you get some answers.

Hugs

Caroline

xx

December 29, 2008

they think it's not appendicitis. er but it might be. I do know it's

v hard to diagnose but blimey.

They think loading is moderate in which case - something else?

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> >> > Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video some

of the

> >> > techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

> >> >

> >> > Natasa x

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December 29, 2008

thanks - it helps!! think explosions actually might not help him,

strangely. back in tomorrow - fifth review of x ray by now, he's a

popular chap xxx

>

> Oh Steph, how awful this must all be. Thinking about you all. Still no

> massive explosions? Hoping you get some answers.

> Hugs

> Caroline

> xx

>

December 29, 2008

---Hi Steph,

Do you think the hospital would test a stool sample for possible

bacterial overgrowth? I have this from a study (pending publication

though) and it might be worth looking into. Sophie Rosseneu is a GI

in the UK, but she is private (works for BUPA) and has given talks

about this subject. If they did it might mean antibiotics though, so

you might not be too keen.

Glynis

GI Bacteria

Sophie Rosseneu and collaborators evaluated GI bacteria in 69

children with regressive autism and constipation

Result: 95% of children with autism had 10,000x normal level of E.

coli

40% also had overgrowth of similar bacteria (Aerobic Gram Negative

Bacteria)

All AGNB create potent endotoxin that causes constipation and

possibly affects brain function

Treatment study of AGNB

11 children treated with special antibiotics for 3 months

Eliminated AGNB

Constipation cured or greatly improved

Behavior improved greatly (3.7 -> 7.2/10)

But, when antibiotics stopped, AGNB returned, constipation returned,

behavior problems returned

Similar temporary benefit when Vancomycin or oral Immunoglobulins used

Planning treatment study at ASU this spring to determine why AGNB

return

In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " stephaniesirr "

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> thanks - it helps!! think explosions actually might not help him,

> strangely. back in tomorrow - fifth review of x ray by now, he's a

> popular chap xxx

>

> >

> > Oh Steph, how awful this must all be. Thinking about you all.

Still no

> > massive explosions? Hoping you get some answers.

> > Hugs

> > Caroline

> > xx

> >

>

December 29, 2008

Steph,

Sorry that things are not going well with Tom. Hope you get some

answers very soon.

emily x

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> > Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video some

of the

> > techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

> >

> > Natasa x

> >

>

December 30, 2008

They didn’t rule out ulcer?? Acute pancreatitis? Or are they sure it is not peritonitis of some sort????

Maybe you could bring these up?

they think it's not appendicitis. er but it might be. I do know it's

v hard to diagnose but blimey.

They think loading is moderate in which case - something else?

> >> >

> >> > Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video – some

of the

> >> > techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

> >> >

> >> > Natasa x

> >> >

> >

>

December 30, 2008

Gall stones also.

I had appendicitis and I remember it was diagnosed with a high white

blood count and a finger up the backside, both of which are not the best

tools. There's also the McBurneys point (some position north,. south,

east or west ( can't remember which direction) of the belly button. If

he's sore ONLY there, that's quite a telltale sign but not infallible

either. Don't prod too much though :-)) If he hasn't got a temp, I think

though you can rule out the appendicitis as I believe it comes with a

temp. Why can't the professionals get the poop out?? Once they do,

either it resolves the problem or they can then proceed down their

differential checklist.

Has there been a gastroenterological consult?

Neno/Natasa schrieb:

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> They didn’t rule out ulcer?? Acute pancreatitis? Or are they sure

> it is not peritonitis of some sort????

>

> Maybe you could bring these up?

>

> they think it's not appendicitis. er but it might be. I do know it's

> v hard to diagnose but blimey.

>

> They think loading is moderate in which case - something else?

>

> > >> >

> > >> > Steph, I sent the link and just watched the whole video – some

> of the

> > >> > techniques shown in it are the ones that have worked here

> > >> >

> > >> > Natasa x

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December 30, 2008

We've had 2 episodes of ruptured appendix over the years - both

without any fever! In one it took 4 days for the white count to rise

and by then an ultrasound showed the area 'fermenting' with bowel

contents all over the lower abd -10y ago this Christmas. He was one

sick puppy. The other was a retrocecal appy that ruptured onto liver

bed. White count actually went down-3000 range. After months of

interfacing w the unbelieving docs, the abcess was discovered during

surgery to remove the gallbladder. Another extended family member

kept c/o that his 'heart hurt' - he functions marginally so could

give no good feedback. Same unbelieving response from docs but w

family history of gall bladder trouble, he had surgery scheduled to

remove it. Once again, a big abcessed, stone filled area was found.

Mc Burney's point - midway betwee belly button and side hip bone. It

was VERY tender in both of our appy experiences. I hope you get some

answers for his distress. Prayers,

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December 30, 2008