Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Sandy, I have been looking further into thyroid and see now a connection between that and the adrenals. It appears too much cortisol might block conversion of T4 to T3. So oxidative stress could theoretically interfere with the thyroid through this mechanism. That coupled with lack of selenium in the Britsh soil and diet, with inflammation using up a lot of zinc and we have a disaster on a national scale. We all seem so lethargic nowadays....hmmmm and let's not even talk about the obesity epidemic! Sandy and Tim schrieb: > > > Hi , > > I don't believe taking armour is lifelong. I have read just a few > stories here and there of people coming off it after detox. I'll keep > an eye out for them. > > My poor thyroid is just not able to function at all as yet - but I > have every intention of getting it back to life. > > I am on 2 grains per day of armour and doing very well. Just this > summer I pulled back to 1.5 grains and didn't notice any change. But > I did start getting a bit constipated and I did put on a few pounds. > Then I reduced down to 1 grain and again that seemed fine BUT my > periods were heavy (VERY heavy) and I couldn't get in my jeans and I > was getting constipated. Everything had just slowed down. So - back > up to 2 grains - periods OK again - some of those pounds melted away > and I'm dandy again :-) Just so gradual how things change. I really > don't notice missing a day or 2 - it's much slower than that. > > 1 grain is 60mg. > 15mg is 0.25grain > http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/products/search/armour/1 > <http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/products/search/armour/1> > > I read it is important to take adrenal for a week or two - but I think > that is just to support adrenals which you have already done. > > Most conventional thyroid info does say you have to stay on it for > life (just like autism is for life) - but we know better :-)! > > http://www.ithyroid.com/hypot_recovery_story.htm > <http://www.ithyroid.com/hypot_recovery_story.htm> > > > Sandyxx > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1838 - Release Date: 08/12/2008 18:16 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Kind of off the subject matter but I also get freezing feet at night so now have a fluffy hot water bottle that I put on them every night and I can fall asleep really quickly now. A little thing but it's made a big difference to my life! > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:35:40 +0000> Subject: Sandy and thyroid> > Sandy,> > I would finally like to try the Armour which I had totally and utterly > forgotten about this past year. We last discussed in January! Before I > start, I'd like to know whether you yourself were able to drop it > eventually.> > I am starting at 15 grains and I will get my doc to test the thyroid > every now and then. My feet are frozen every night until 4 in the > morning even though I am under a warm duvet. I hate the cold. As soon as > the cold hits my skin, I feel 'orrible. My energy levels and stamina > are considerably better (think chromium and adrenal support helped a lot > here) than this time last year but I need to really improve my brain so > that it can retrieve information effectively during an upcoming > interrogation.> > So the question is, were you able to eventually get off the Armour and > do you have any more insight/tidbits about thyroid and how armour has > helped since we last discussed this on the list last January?> > Cheers,> > :-))> > > ------------------------------------> > DISCLAIMER> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I have two fluffy ( 2 Jack s) hot water bottles and still it doesn't help...or do you mean a fluffy man ;-)).... McReynolds schrieb: > > Hi > > Kind of off the subject matter but I also get freezing feet at night > so now have a fluffy hot water bottle that I put on them every night > and I can fall asleep really quickly now. A little thing but it's > made a big difference to my life! > > > > > To: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@yahoogrou ps.com > > From: moppett1@btinternet .com > > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:35:40 +0000 > > Subject: [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Sandy and thyroid > > > > Sandy, > > > > I would finally like to try the Armour which I had totally and utterly > > forgotten about this past year. We last discussed in January! Before I > > start, I'd like to know whether you yourself were able to drop it > > eventually. > > > > I am starting at 15 grains and I will get my doc to test the thyroid > > every now and then. My feet are frozen every night until 4 in the > > morning even though I am under a warm duvet. I hate the cold. As > soon as > > the cold hits my skin, I feel 'orrible. My energy levels and stamina > > are considerably better (think chromium and adrenal support helped a > lot > > here) than this time last year but I need to really improve my brain so > > that it can retriee information effectively during an upcoming > > interrogation. > > > > So the question is, were you able to eventually get off the Armour and > > do you have any more insight/tidbits about thyroid and how armour has > > helped since we last discussed this on the list last January? > > > > Cheers, > > > > :-)) > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi , Tim and I are both concerned by what we see on campus - the students look just that little bit more different each year. We see receding jaws (Weston A Price) and necks just don't look right - the girls are undoubtedly bigger and - well maybe we just didn't notice before? - but there seem to be a lot of students with uneven gaits (those legs just aren't swinging straight). Hopefully it is a bad shoe effect (flip flops went straight to very flat fluffy boot fashion!!) Mind, not that us older academics look any better! Also there are quite a few who seem to have no sensitivity to cold - really in T-shirts in this weather! - coming in with no coats. Tim and I stopped at the bus stop one night to offer one of our students a ride because we saw him in only a T-shirt - but he ensured us he was fine and that he generally didn't feel the cold. Actually Tim's mum was very, very allergic way back in the 40s/50s and one of the family friends then said it was a sign she would be clever ... so we've known a while. I think of Milhouse in The Simpsons too ! Clever people (well at least the high-functioning ASD types) seem to be getting more clever and more allergic/poorly. Academic spectrum disorder? ( - Eddie has just discoverd hot water bottles and loves them - - we only make them warm because he's not short of warmth. I always loved them too. He's got one now and we're not allowed to take it out :-) ) Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi , Have you seen the adrenalfatigue yahoogroup? (I've only just joined, but they seem to be up on the adrenal-thyroid link.) Also have you seen this selenium http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?page=LIST & ProdID=1371 & zType=2 Seems to work for me when other selenium hasn't . (Long story.) Jacqui >> Sandy,> > I have been looking further into thyroid and see now a connection > between that and the adrenals. It appears too much cortisol might block > conversion of T4 to T3. So oxidative stress could theoretically > interfere with the thyroid through this mechanism. That coupled with > lack of selenium in the Britsh soil and diet, with inflammation using up > a lot of zinc and we have a disaster on a national scale. We all seem so > lethargic nowadays....hmmmm and let's not even talk about the obesity > epidemic!> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Jacqui, I hadn't heard of that group. It sounds like I should join it :-)) Thx for the suggestion. See you over there! Cheers, fideaueater schrieb: > > Hi , > > Have you seen the adrenalfatigue yahoogroup? (I've only just joined, > but they seem to be up on the adrenal-thyroid link.) > > Also have you seen this selenium > http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?page=LIST & ProdID=1371 & zType=2 > <http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?page=LIST & ProdID=1371 & zType=2> > Seems to work for me when other selenium hasn't . (Long story.) > > Jacqui > > > > > > > > Sandy, > > > > I have been looking further into thyroid and see now a connection > > between that and the adrenals. It appears too much cortisol might block > > conversion of T4 to T3. So oxidative stress could theoretically > > interfere with the thyroid through this mechanism. That coupled with > > lack of selenium in the Britsh soil and diet, with inflammation > using up > > a lot of zinc and we have a disaster on a national scale. We all > seem so > > lethargic nowadays....hmmmm and let's not even talk about the obesity > > epidemic! > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 09/12/2008 16:53 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 see my earlier comment on Tom the Werewolf. Mind you, he's not fluffy, more wiry. x > > I have two fluffy ( 2 Jack s) hot water bottles and still it > doesn't help...or do you mean a fluffy man ;-)).... > > McReynolds schrieb: > > > > Hi > > > > Kind of off the subject matter but I also get freezing feet at night > > so now have a fluffy hot water bottle that I put on them every night > > and I can fall asleep really quickly now. A little thing but it's > > made a big difference to my life! > > > > > > > > > To: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@yahoogrou ps.com > > > From: moppett1@btinternet .com > > > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:35:40 +0000 > > > Subject: [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Sandy and thyroid > > > > > > Sandy, > > > > > > I would finally like to try the Armour which I had totally and utterly > > > forgotten about this past year. We last discussed in January! Before I > > > start, I'd like to know whether you yourself were able to drop it > > > eventually. > > > > > > I am starting at 15 grains and I will get my doc to test the thyroid > > > every now and then. My feet are frozen every night until 4 in the > > > morning even though I am under a warm duvet. I hate the cold. As > > soon as > > > the cold hits my skin, I feel 'orrible. My energy levels and stamina > > > are considerably better (think chromium and adrenal support helped a > > lot > > > here) than this time last year but I need to really improve my brain so > > > that it can retriee information effectively during an upcoming > > > interrogation. > > > > > > So the question is, were you able to eventually get off the Armour and > > > do you have any more insight/tidbits about thyroid and how armour has > > > helped since we last discussed this on the list last January? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > :-)) > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > > qualified practitioner. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Also there are quite a few who seem to have no sensitivity to cold - really in T-shirts in this weather! - coming in with no coats. Tim and I stopped at the bus stop one night to offer one of our students a ride because we saw him in only a T-shirt - but he ensured us he was fine and that he generally didn't feel the cold >>I was just like this until the LDM-100, now I guess I feel the cold like normal people, spooky Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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