Re: Negative effects of using coconut oil internally

[Guest guest]

Roman,

I am a blood type 0, a fast oxidizer and have used coconut oil for over 9

years internally with zero negative effects. And the first few years we started

using CO we used the Omega brand.

Then we switched to Quality First 5 (or is it more?) years ago and we love

it.

I don't buy into the blood type theory though.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/30/04 8:21:31 PM, heidis@... writes:

> Also some people take a LOT of CO, by itself ...

> like 6 T ... that's a lot of fat, esp. if a person

> has been on a low fat diet!

>

I have to say , that always struck me as some sort of bizarre idea. Coconut

oil consuming natives do not use coconut oil in this manner. Another American

idea that if a little is good, more must be better.

Elainie

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm O and it's working beautifully for me. I've been on it for about

6 months. What are some of these side effects?

Lynn

[Guest guest]

>Some people report that they have noticed negative effects of coconut oil taken

internally. Some think the effects are due to their O blood type. Dr. D'Dadamo

says O's shouldn't take CO internally. Has any of you experienced negative side

effects? Are there any with type O here who have benefited from using CO

internally?

>

>Roman

I'm not into the blood type diet either, but CO has a fair

bit of MCT, which gives a lot of people stomach

cramping when they first take it, esp. on an

empty stomach (this happened to me at first too!).

The cramping is due to fast digestion, I've been

told. Also some people take a LOT of CO, by itself ...

like 6 T ... that's a lot of fat, esp. if a person

has been on a low fat diet!

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

> Some people report that they have noticed negative effects of

coconut oil taken internally. Some think the effects are due to their

O blood type. Dr. D'Dadamo says O's shouldn't take CO internally. Has

any of you experienced negative side effects? Are there any with type

O here who have benefited from using CO internally?

>

> Roman

I'm O+ and consume coconut oil in some way or another daily. It's

pretty much my main cooking oil and I eat some right off the spoon

regularly. I've never noticed any problems at all.

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm O+ and consume coconut oil in some way or another daily. It's

> pretty much my main cooking oil and I eat some right off the spoon

> regularly. I've never noticed any problems at all.

>

I have Dr. D'Adamos book from when it was first published.

I had it out recently for a read over.

He has it in his book that everyone, every blood type, should avoid coconut.

I'm sure this is because of the bad science that was used to demonized coconut

oil in the western world in favor of domestically

produced seed oils.

I'm blood type O.

I use coconut oil as the only edible oil I use as I don't care for the taste of

olive oil.

It's a wonderful oil.

Regards, Bruce

[Guest guest]

Roman,

The problem could be that the ones with problems have a problem

digesting fats. That is what happened to me. I used it for yesrs and

then all of a sudden I had dirrhea. Discovered through the help of

kinesiology that I was not digesting fats, carbs or protein. I just

cut way back on my coconut oil. I still get a good amount. I am a type

A and also am not supposed to have coconut oil but test okay for it so

have gone back to it after avoiding it for awhile because of the blood

type diet. (Acturlly not any of the types are supposed to have coconut

oil)I am a big fan of kinesiology and you should just test for it.

Just my experience

Del

Roman wrote:

> Some people report that they have noticed negative effects of

coconut oil taken internally. Some think the effects are due to their

O blood type. Dr. D'Dadamo says O's shouldn't take CO internally. Has

any of you experienced negative side effects? Are there any with type

O here who have benefited from using CO internally?

>

> Roman

[Guest guest]

> I'm not into the blood type diet either, but CO has a fair

> bit of MCT, which gives a lot of people stomach

> cramping when they first take it, esp. on an

I had that too! I thought maybe the antibacterial part of the VCO was

doing that. But it wasn't too bad, just a slight feeling. I'm not sure

whether it was in the stomach or a bit further down.

And yes, I'm type 0.

CU Anja

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/2/04 1:29:38 PM, romeml@... writes:

> http://www.dadamo.com/typebase/typebase.cgi (D'Adamo's TYPEbase

>

Thanks Roman,

I'm off to check out the link!

Elainie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/2/04 1:43:49 PM, romeml@... writes:

>

>

> The person that reported negative effect said that coconut oil

> triggered a severe autoimmune reaction, with antibodies attacking her

> thyroid. Another one said that after starting taking CO internally,

> her sculp became dry and flaky. These are anecdotal stories, but they

> probably deserve some attention, especially since they seem to confirm

> D'Adamo's (current) theory.

>

> Roman

>

Ok, mow my ears are really perked up because I have/had BOTH those problems

(except my scalp is clear now eating paleo). I am going in for an antibody

test in a month or so. If I still have antibodies, I'll cut out coconut and

get retested.

Geezum, seems like my diet is getting pretty narrow.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

> Roman,

> I am a blood type 0, a fast oxidizer and have used coconut oil for

over 9

> years internally with zero negative effects. And the first few years

we started

> using CO we used the Omega brand.

> Then we switched to Quality First 5 (or is it more?) years ago and

we love

> it.

> I don't buy into the blood type theory though.

>

>

> Elainie

Evidently, his theory has been revised and now includes something that

is called a secretor status. According to a person who reported

negative reactions on an internet forum, " secretors " should avoid

coconut oil. There seem more details to it.

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase/typebase.cgi (D'Adamo's TYPEbase)

Roman

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/2/04 3:32:31 PM, starwulf@... writes:

> elainie i wondered about that, too.  could you talk a little more

> about how natives *do* use coconut oil and what's a typical daily

> consumption? 

>

> i have the Tropical Traditions CO and i believe they recommend about

> 3-4 Tbsp a day to get the full beneficial effects from it.

>

> TIA

> vera

>

Wel, from the tropical countries in the world I've been to, they cook with

it. I also have an Indonesian housekeeper who cooks with it (just like I do)

and she informed me it is the on;y cooking oil she uses. She looks very young

for her age (50's) and is very fit. I don't believe VCO should be used like a

drug, it's a food.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

> I have Dr. D'Adamos book from when it was first published.

> I had it out recently for a read over.

> He has it in his book that everyone, every blood type, should avoid

coconut.

That wouldn't be fair to his theory. From what I've heard, it has been

changed more than once. He now doesn't say that every blood type

should avoid coconut. See http://www.dadamo.com/typebase/typebase.cgi

for details.

Roman

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Lynn Razaitis " <lyn122@y...>

wrote:

> I'm O and it's working beautifully for me. I've been on it for about

> 6 months. What are some of these side effects?

> Lynn

The person that reported negative effect said that coconut oil

triggered a severe autoimmune reaction, with antibodies attacking her

thyroid. Another one said that after starting taking CO internally,

her sculp became dry and flaky. These are anecdotal stories, but they

probably deserve some attention, especially since they seem to confirm

D'Adamo's (current) theory.

Roman

[Guest guest]

> That wouldn't be fair to his theory. From what I've heard, it has

been

> changed more than once. He now doesn't say that every blood type

> should avoid coconut. See

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase/typebase.cgi

> for details.

Roman,

To be up front, I'll be fair and say I haven't read the book.

However, I get the impression from discussions that his so-

called " theory " is based on speculation. If he reorganizes

this " theory " because his original one didn't match observations, but

he doesn't have any actual evidence for any of the mechanisms by

which his diet is supposed to work, then can we really call it

a " theory " ?

Chris

[Guest guest]

elainie i wondered about that, too. could you talk a little more

about how natives *do* use coconut oil and what's a typical daily

consumption?

i have the Tropical Traditions CO and i believe they recommend about

3-4 Tbsp a day to get the full beneficial effects from it.

TIA

vera

> In a message dated 4/30/04 8:21:31 PM, heidis@t... writes:

> > Also some people take a LOT of CO, by itself ...

> > like 6 T ... that's a lot of fat, esp. if a person

> > has been on a low fat diet!

zumicat wrote:

> I have to say , that always struck me as some sort of bizarre

idea. Coconut

> oil consuming natives do not use coconut oil in this manner.

Another American

> idea that if a little is good, more must be better.

>

> Elainie

[Guest guest]

chrismasterjohn wrote:

> To be up front, I'll be fair and say I haven't read the book.

> However, I get the impression from discussions that his so-

> called " theory " is based on speculation. If he reorganizes

> this " theory " because his original one didn't match observations, but

> he doesn't have any actual evidence for any of the mechanisms by

> which his diet is supposed to work, then can we really call it

> a " theory " ?

Maybe I didn't understand you correctly, but isn't it how theories evolve? By

being modified to explain new observations?

Roman

[Guest guest]

>

> Maybe I didn't understand you correctly, but isn't it how theories evolve? By

being modified to explain new observations?

>

what's the difference between an hypothesis and a theory... : -)

[Guest guest]

Bruce Stordock wrote:

>>Maybe I didn't understand you correctly, but isn't it how theories evolve? By

being modified to explain new observations?

>>

>

> what's the difference between an hypothesis and a theory... : -)

According to a dictionary, they may be equivalent.

[Guest guest]

> Maybe I didn't understand you correctly, but isn't it how theories

>evolve? By being modified to explain new observations?

Oh, yes. I wasn't questioning the modification-- I think that's a

good thing. I was questioning whether his general ideas really merit

being called a theory in the first place. I don't know the answer to

that, cause I haven't read the book. But from what other folks have

said, it seems not.

Theories aren't just explanations of observations. Heck, folk

religions even do that.

Chris