Re: Meltdown city any ideas???

[Guest guest]

Are you using Chromium? This has had a great impact on , he was the rage king beyond belief, but obviously blood/sugar was at least some of the reason.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die off of bug that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal might help

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Steph,

I have read that lots of kids do have a big reaction to LL, even at

very low doses. For most of those kids it seemed that using it was

helping, but it had to be really, really low doses like a drop

diluted throughout the day.

The other thing that occurs to me, since it has been happening here

for the last four days is low blood sugar. DS has been

extraordinarily happy, loving (McLovin!!), and pleased to be around

us lately, but if we let him go more than three hours without food,

or don't feed him breakfast within just a few minutes of waking up,

he loses it. I think ds's adrenals are taking a beating from the

viral protocol.

Anita

>

> Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to one

> drop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes but

> didn't look exactly yeasty.

>

> Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdown

> before breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBs

>

> Might this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?

>

> It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing

anything

> in his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the new

> supp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.

>

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph

This also happened to my son with Liver Life when I started with too high a dose. I also take it and I got terrible die off too, I couldn't believe how bad I felt. So we both stopped and restarted with one drop and only increasing each drop every five days. This has been fine so far. I would guess that it was the LL causing the meltdowns.

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: mark.grabiec@...Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:44:30 +0000Subject: Meltdown city any ideas???

Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to onedrop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes butdidn't look exactly yeasty.Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdownbefore breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBsMight this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing anythingin his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the newsupp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.Steph x Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile. Click Here!

[Guest guest]

ah, we love McLovin'! Low blood sugar might be it, he perked up

considerably after brekkie (and it wasn't even his choice of brek).

Still pale though and stimmy. Might try half a drop of LL on boxing

day with lots of water, sipped.

I've taken some and it's had no effect on my whatsoever. My liver is

obviously beyond redemption.

S x

> >

> > Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to one

> > drop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes but

> > didn't look exactly yeasty.

> >

> > Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdown

> > before breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBs

> >

> > Might this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?

> >

> > It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing

> anything

> > in his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the new

> > supp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.

> >

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ah, we love McLovin'! Low blood sugar might be it, he perked up

considerably after brekkie (and it wasn't even his choice of brek).

Still pale though and stimmy. Might try half a drop of LL on boxing

day with lots of water, sipped.

I've taken some and it's had no effect on my whatsoever. My liver is

obviously beyond redemption.

S x

> >

> > Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to one

> > drop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes but

> > didn't look exactly yeasty.

> >

> > Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdown

> > before breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBs

> >

> > Might this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?

> >

> > It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing

> anything

> > in his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the new

> > supp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.

> >

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks will try it. still melting down and terrible diarohhea (sp??).

Poor little bean xx

>

> Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die off of

bug

> that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal might help

>

> Mandi x

>

[Guest guest]

No, it hasn't helped and he's really in SIB mode now, over an hour now

on the latest round. We need something else to try.

He's had 2 x charcoal and 1 x oxypowder in addition to usual.

> >

> > Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die off of

> bug

> > that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal

might help

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No, it hasn't helped and he's really in SIB mode now, over an hour now

on the latest round. We need something else to try.

He's had 2 x charcoal and 1 x oxypowder in addition to usual.

> >

> > Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die off of

> bug

> > that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal

might help

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Probably a bad time to start typing lists of

supplements - but what is he on?

stephaniesirr wrote:

No, it hasn't helped and he's really in SIB mode now, over an hour

now

on the latest round. We need something else to try.

He's had 2 x charcoal and 1 x oxypowder in addition to usual.

> >

> > Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die

off of

> bug

> > that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal

might help

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

When Katy started it we had to add just 1 drop to a beaker of water

and just give her a drop from the beaker.

She now handle 2 dropperfuls a day,but it took a very long time to

get to this level.

hope he soon fells better,

Love Sharon xx

,-

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " stephaniesirr "

wrote:

>

> Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to one

> drop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes but

> didn't look exactly yeasty.

>

> Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdown

> before breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBs

>

> Might this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?

>

> It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing

anything

> in his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the new

> supp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.

>

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

When Katy started it we had to add just 1 drop to a beaker of water

and just give her a drop from the beaker.

She now handle 2 dropperfuls a day,but it took a very long time to

get to this level.

hope he soon fells better,

Love Sharon xx

,-

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " stephaniesirr "

wrote:

>

> Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to one

> drop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes but

> didn't look exactly yeasty.

>

> Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdown

> before breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBs

>

> Might this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?

>

> It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing

anything

> in his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the new

> supp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.

>

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

When Katy started it we had to add just 1 drop to a beaker of water

and just give her a drop from the beaker.

She now handle 2 dropperfuls a day,but it took a very long time to

get to this level.

hope he soon fells better,

Love Sharon xx

,-

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " stephaniesirr "

wrote:

>

> Day five of Liverlife and he was up to three drops then down to one

> drop. Tom looked very pale when I got in from work - dark eyes but

> didn't look exactly yeasty.

>

> Yesterday morning and right now we had a humdinger of a meltdown

> before breakfast. 25 minutes and very intense, lots of SIBs

>

> Might this be Liverlife? is it worth dropping it?

>

> It's not that Tom doesn't have meltdowns without us changing

anything

> in his programme at all - he does. It's the combination of the new

> supp, pale face and intensity that makes me a little suspicious.

>

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried Sodium Bicarb baths ?It helps here.

Sharon.

> > >

> > > Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die

off of

> > bug

> > > that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal

> might help

> > >

> > > Mandi x

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Steph, have you tried painkillers? I'd go for ibuprofen fwiw

No, it hasn't helped and he's really in SIB mode now, over an hour now

on the latest round. We need something else to try.

He's had 2 x charcoal and 1 x oxypowder in addition to usual.

> >

> > Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause die off of

> bug

> > that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal

might help

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Does he have the bug that's going round? was very ill with diahrea 2 weeks ago, and was quite poorly up until last night when I think he got rid of the last of it.

All food went right through them, but plenty of fluid seemed to help, and stopped supplements altogether for a couple of days bar pro bio's.

Hope he perks up soon.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

yes, regular ibuprofen now, thanks. NOt over it yet sadly - would

drinking a little bicarb be a bad idea? I dont' want to give any more

charcoal as it stops him in his tracks a bit.

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> >>> > > Steph, Liver Life will normalise pH, doing that can cause

die off of

> >> > bug

> >>> > > that like it however it was before, if its this then charcoal

> > might help

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Mandi x

> >>> > >

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> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Steph

Poor Tom, how are things today? Maybe he has the winter vomiting virus.

Me and Cammy have had the flu for around 4 weeks in connection with

this tummy bug, its been quite terrible, could hardly stand up! Hope

its better poor little bean.

Luv Caroline

xx

[Guest guest]

really mixed. Good thing is - he wants to participate. But bad thing

is - he feels crap. Hair trigger. Don't think it's bug - think it's

major die off but mystery why nothing showed for first three days of

it. and then bam.

Waiting on parasite results from stool test. Maybe the miniscule

amount of OLE - or might just be general whoosh of toxins. He's very

emotional but I'm scared to give him anything else at all now

:-(

xx

>

> Hi Steph

>

> Poor Tom, how are things today? Maybe he has the winter vomiting virus.

> Me and Cammy have had the flu for around 4 weeks in connection with

> this tummy bug, its been quite terrible, could hardly stand up! Hope

> its better poor little bean.

>

> Luv Caroline

> xx

>