[POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: Re: Special schools (UK)

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I agree with everything you said about Makaton. Tom loved it and,

fantastically (for Tom anyway), if you like Makaton you can use

Something Special videos as well as Sing and Sign baby signing videos.

Tom loved both of them and learnt tons from them.

As for SALTs I've only met really really bad ones so I don't even know

what they're meant to do. Glad you met a good one.

Sara

McReynolds wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> Have you looked into Makaton at all? We started Sebastien on it when

> he was around two and he picked it up very quickly and now has a

> couple hundred signs. It's pretty easy to learn for both children and

> adults. And you don't need to have cards so can be used anywhere.

> All the staff at his nursery have done training and it really opened

> up his world. An ABA consultant we worked with also said there was

> some research (don't know if this is true, just what he told me) to

> suggest that signing led to more speech skills than PECS because the

> brain made more connections (ie with signing you need to make a

> different sign for each word; with PECS you do the same action for

> each word even though you choose different cards). I'm not knocking

> PECS as I've never tried it but we have done very well with Makaton.

> It works best if you get the child to attempt speech with every sign,

> when they can do so. Sebastien can now say the beginning of most word

> s so he will do both eg for snake he will sign snake and also say 'sss'.

>

> I think I already told you about speech therapy but we only saw

> improvement once we started with a specialist speech therapist (in our

> case for apraxia). If you can get someone who is trained in the

> Nuffield Dyspraxia Programme that would be useful as it is more

> structured than the other general therapy we had. We are also

> starting to use Kaufman Kits shortly as I went to her conference

> recently and was impressed. It's basically getting the child to say

> what they can for a word then gradually saying more of the word as

> they progress. I've started doing this with Sebastien and he can now

> read a couple of books. Even though I have to prompt each word and no

> one else would understand it, I do and it's given him so much more

> confidence to try reading more and we are now seeing some spontaneous

> words which we never had before.

>

> Good luck with the school

>

>

>

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> To: autism-biomedical-europe

> From: peter_2_@...

> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:07:26 +0000

> Subject: RE: Re: Special schools (UK)

>

>

> Thanks for replies

>

> Sophie communicates by taking us by the hand to whatever she wants, or

> making different tone noises to show her emotions like if she is happy

> or bored or sad or excited etc

>

> She is being encouraged to choose from cards at mainstream nursery

> which she is beginning to do

>

> We use a DAN doctor in UK who I think is a genius (started 2 months ago)

>

> xx

>

>

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> To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> From: mmcivor@...

> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:31:59 +0000

> Subject: Re: Special schools (UK)

>

>

> --- Establishing Operations Inc do some v good training dvds including

> one on manding

> or requesting .

> How does your daughter communicate at school and home?

>

> In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe >, " malcolm4237 "

> wrote:

> >

> > ---its v worrying but sadly common that the sp school won't give you

> a detailed

> > answer.You will have to push and( ask in writing?) as to how are

> they going to teach

> your

> > daughter.

> > If they were implementing pecs correctly(and many don't),they should

> give you

> > details.Many children do start to say some words when they start pecs.

> >

> > The school might say they have an TEACCH or eclectic approach in

> which case it could

> be

> > a mish mash which won't help your child at all. There's only a

> handful in the country

> that

> > use verbal behaviour type ABA (2 in essex).Unfortunately majority of

> our sp schools

> > believe that speech just comes spontaneously as with typical or hfa

> kids.

> > Nina

> >

> > In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe >, " bornlivelife2 "

> <peter_2_@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Could people tell me what we should expect and hope for from a

> > > special school

> > >

> > > We have a SEN statement and 1:1 assistant in a mainstream school

> > > where our 4 yrs 2 mths daughter is doing fine EXCEPT no speech

> > > except babbling

> > >

> > > We have started a 2 day mainsteam/ 3 day special school split

> > > placement (where she is in a class of 8, with 8 teachers).

> > >

> > > What additional things should a Special school do to primarily help

> > > her speech? Because if they arent doing any more than mainstream

> > > *> > My dream was:

> > >

> > > PECS - advise us exact details so we can replicate at home

> > > ABA - becasue people say it is great - again we need to replicate

> > > it at home

> > >

> > > I keep asking the Special school what ADDITIONAL HELP (compared to

> > > mainstream) they are providing, and am unable to get an answer

> > >

> > > Thanks for any help on this

> > >

> > > xx

> > >

> >

>

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