Re: Raw milk organic cheese from grass-fed cows and Price-savvy NDs

[Guest guest]

well, if you can get grass-fed meat, you can get grassfed milk with

moderate effort. and from there you can make your own cheese and butter,

which is really much less work than it sounds like...holler if you want

more than just a suggestion!

-katja

At 06:02 PM 5/18/2004, you wrote:

>I would also love to find an ND here who supports/follows the

>recommendations of the Weston A. Price Foundation. I'm frustrated,

>because most natural health practitioners are very pro-soy and anti-

>animal fat and meat. The chapter leader here cannot be reached. I

>corresponded with a chapter leader from another province, but she

>wasn't able to help, unfortunately. Sources of grass-fed meat are

>reasonably easy to find, but not dairy products.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Katja!

Unfortunately, I can't get raw dairy from the places I get the grass-

fed meat from. Well, yet. Raw milk is highly illegal here, but there

are cow shares in some parts of the province. B.C. is huge, and I

don't drive, so accessing some of this stuff is tricky for me!

But I'd love to know more about making my own butter and cheese, or

whatever else you'd like to tell me. I just bought some organic sheep

milk butter, believe it or not! It's pasteurized (again, these #@!

laws), but oh well. It tastes really good – very mild.

- Blackberrycat

> >I would also love to find an ND here who supports/follows the

> >recommendations of the Weston A. Price Foundation. I'm frustrated,

> >because most natural health practitioners are very pro-soy and

anti-

> >animal fat and meat. The chapter leader here cannot be reached. I

> >corresponded with a chapter leader from another province, but she

> >wasn't able to help, unfortunately. Sources of grass-fed meat are

> >reasonably easy to find, but not dairy products.

[Guest guest]

oh of course it's pasteurized! that's the way of it.

my thinking is that your meat friend may allow you to keep a milking cow

there, if you have the time to milk her. whatcha do is get a bred cow,

preferably a jersey or something, and raise the calf up for meat. allow the

calf to stay on the teat for as long as possible - this way you'll only

have to milk once a day, and even if you have to skip a day it'll be

alright. just get a stainless steel pail and milk by hand: if you milk her

out, you'd have five gallons a day and that's no good! if you don't know

how to milk, i can write you instructions. then just milk till your pail is

full enough (it will help if you milk a quarter that the calf recently

nursed, so that you can get some hindmilk, which will be fattier. just like

human milk that way) otherwise, in terms of care, there's very little

required. hay, grass, whatever. you can milk her right in the field,

couldn't be easier!

anyway, if it's your cow, and you're milking it, no illegal! (fortunately

it is still legal to drink your own milk!)

once you have the milk, making all the dairy products is easy: sour cream

is just skimmed cream left on the counter, butter is skimmed cream in a

mason jar shaken for an hour or so (leave it out on the counter overnight

first - that makes it go faster. this is a GREAT activity for children!)

and cheesemaking is not nearly as tough as you'd think. there's lots of

recipes online - just google cheesemaking. you'll need some supplies but

it's quite minimal. the first time you do it (depending on the cheese type)

may be a bit awkward, but it'll become second nature!

At 03:12 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:

>Unfortunately, I can't get raw dairy from the places I get the grass-

>fed meat from. Well, yet. Raw milk is highly illegal here, but there

>are cow shares in some parts of the province. B.C. is huge, and I

>don't drive, so accessing some of this stuff is tricky for me!

>

>But I'd love to know more about making my own butter and cheese, or

>whatever else you'd like to tell me. I just bought some organic sheep

>milk butter, believe it or not! It's pasteurized (again, these #@!

>laws), but oh well. It tastes really good ­ very mild.

[Guest guest]

*sigh*

I can't wait to have my own cows.....

Marie

Re: Raw milk organic cheese from grass-fed cows and Price-savvy

NDs

oh of course it's pasteurized! that's the way of it.

my thinking is that your meat friend may allow you to keep a milking cow

there, if you have the time to milk her. whatcha do is get a bred cow,

preferably a jersey or something, and raise the calf up for meat. allow the

calf to stay on the teat for as long as possible - this way you'll only

have to milk once a day, and even if you have to skip a day it'll be

alright. just get a stainless steel pail and milk by hand: if you milk her

out, you'd have five gallons a day and that's no good! if you don't know

how to milk, i can write you instructions. then just milk till your pail is

full enough (it will help if you milk a quarter that the calf recently

nursed, so that you can get some hindmilk, which will be fattier. just like

human milk that way) otherwise, in terms of care, there's very little

required. hay, grass, whatever. you can milk her right in the field,

couldn't be easier!

anyway, if it's your cow, and you're milking it, no illegal! (fortunately

it is still legal to drink your own milk!)

once you have the milk, making all the dairy products is easy: sour cream

is just skimmed cream left on the counter, butter is skimmed cream in a

mason jar shaken for an hour or so (leave it out on the counter overnight

first - that makes it go faster. this is a GREAT activity for children!)

and cheesemaking is not nearly as tough as you'd think. there's lots of

recipes online - just google cheesemaking. you'll need some supplies but

it's quite minimal. the first time you do it (depending on the cheese type)

may be a bit awkward, but it'll become second nature!

At 03:12 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:

>Unfortunately, I can't get raw dairy from the places I get the grass-

>fed meat from. Well, yet. Raw milk is highly illegal here, but there

>are cow shares in some parts of the province. B.C. is huge, and I

>don't drive, so accessing some of this stuff is tricky for me!

>

>But I'd love to know more about making my own butter and cheese, or

>whatever else you'd like to tell me. I just bought some organic sheep

>milk butter, believe it or not! It's pasteurized (again, these #@!

>laws), but oh well. It tastes really good ­ very mild.

[Guest guest]

Thanks! The source of the meat is many hours away (B.C. is a big

province), so I won't be able to do that as far as I know. But it's

something to think about!