Re: Thyroid tests and ferritin/iron

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My son's thyroid results and feritin (may 08)

ferritin: 48 (ref: 18-325)

> >

> > Margaret,

> >

> > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the

> important

> > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3

by

> the

> > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient

> country

> > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to over

> > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added

salt

> > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine.

> >

> > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me

or

> > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab

> reports

> > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3

> efficiently. I

> > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares

and

> I

> > didn't know a titch about selenium.

> >

> > Do you know what your free T3 is?

> >

> > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural

> Thyroid

> > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-))

> >

> >

> >

> > mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> > >

> > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently

> > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is

tested

> at

> > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these

> tests,

> > > but they do have some value, nonetheless.

> > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour

> without

> > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive

> stroke

> > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP

> had

> > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an

> annual

> > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT.

> > > Margaret

> > >

> > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I

> have

> > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to

> convert

> > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has

> > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a

fitness

> to

> > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there

> was no

> > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his

prescribing

> but 2

> > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe.

> Interestingly,

> > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.)

> > >

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[Guest guest]

oops wasnt finished

iron 21 (ref: 10-30) so its ok

Ferritin: 48 (ref: 18-325)

fe saturation: 33 percent (20-50)

b12: 1112 (ref: 175-750) b12 really high due to oral MB12?

Thyroid Function test (got this on NHS, cause I bitched)

Free Thyroxine: 14.1 (ref: 9-19)

TSH: 1.864 (ref: 0.4 -4.5)

Triiodothyronine: 2.5 (ref: 0.9 - 2.5) This is high, but dont know

what it is??

other results: cortisol: 50

IGM: 0.46 (ref: 0.5-2.0) (low side)

Urea: 7.6 (ref: 2.5-6.0) High

Phosphate: 1.61 (ref: 0.80 - 1.55 ) (always high)

Hydroxyproline: 56 (ref: 1-25) (always high) used to be 120

my boy's red blood count always low, liver enzymes always high, and

Creatinine Kinase, always really high (muscle wasting)

> > >

> > > Margaret,

> > >

> > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the

> > important

> > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3

> by

> > the

> > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient

> > country

> > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to

over

> > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added

> salt

> > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine.

> > >

> > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me

> or

> > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab

> > reports

> > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3

> > efficiently. I

> > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares

> and

> > I

> > > didn't know a titch about selenium.

> > >

> > > Do you know what your free T3 is?

> > >

> > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural

> > Thyroid

> > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-))

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> > > >

> > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently

> > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is

> tested

> > at

> > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of

these

> > tests,

> > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless.

> > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour

> > without

> > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a

massive

> > stroke

> > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his

GP

> > had

> > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with

an

> > annual

> > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT.

> > > > Margaret

> > > >

> > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and

I

> > have

> > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to

> > convert

> > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner

has

> > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a

> fitness

> > to

> > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website -

there

> > was no

> > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his

> prescribing

> > but 2

> > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe.

> > Interestingly,

> > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------

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> > >

> >

>

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> > > >

> > > > Margaret,

> > > >

> > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the

> > > important

> > > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to

T3

> > by

> > > the

> > > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient

> > > country

> > > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to

> over

> > > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take

added

> > salt

> > > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine.

> > > >

> > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help

me

> > or

> > > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old

lab

> > > reports

> > > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3

> > > efficiently. I

> > > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government

scares

> > and

> > > I

> > > > didn't know a titch about selenium.

> > > >

> > > > Do you know what your free T3 is?

> > > >

> > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural

> > > Thyroid

> > > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-))

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am

currently

> > > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is

> > tested

> > > at

> > > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of

> these

> > > tests,

> > > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless.

> > > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour

> > > without

> > > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a

> massive

> > > stroke

> > > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because

his

> GP

> > > had

> > > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him

with

> an

> > > annual

> > > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT.

> > > > > Margaret

> > > > >

> > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting

and

> I

> > > have

> > > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to

> > > convert

> > > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr

Skinner

> has

> > > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a

> > fitness

> > > to

> > > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website -

> there

> > > was no

> > > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his

> > prescribing

> > > but 2

> > > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe.

> > > Interestingly,

> > > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.)

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Our doc says he prefers that TSH be ~ 1.0

> > > > >

> > > > > Margaret,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the

> > > > important

> > > > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4

to

> T3

> > > by

> > > > the

> > > > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium

deficient

> > > > country

> > > > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to

> > over

> > > > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take

> added

> > > salt

> > > > > which would have normally provided a decent source of

iodine.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't

help

> me

> > > or

> > > > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old

> lab

> > > > reports

> > > > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3

> > > > efficiently. I

> > > > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government

> scares

> > > and

> > > > I

> > > > > didn't know a titch about selenium.

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you know what your free T3 is?

> > > > >

> > > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the

Natural

> > > > Thyroid

> > > > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-))

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am

> currently

> > > > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is

> > > tested

> > > > at

> > > > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of

> > these

> > > > tests,

> > > > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless.

> > > > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or

Armour

> > > > without

> > > > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a

> > massive

> > > > stroke

> > > > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because

> his

> > GP

> > > > had

> > > > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him

> with

> > an

> > > > annual

> > > > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT.

> > > > > > Margaret

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting

> and

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order

to

> > > > convert

> > > > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr

> Skinner

> > has

> > > > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a

> > > fitness

> > > > to

> > > > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website -

> > there

> > > > was no

> > > > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his

> > > prescribing

> > > > but 2

> > > > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe.

> > > > Interestingly,

> > > > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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