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---in fairness when pecs is used correctly, using the child's motivation and

language is

used when the child gives or initially prompted to give the pecs card,

and so for many it becomes easier to say the word which is the whole aim of any

augmentative method,

Which kid is going to get excited about using the card/word " toilet " ?? " wait " ....

as their first

words.?

In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " bbrowne123 "

wrote:

>

> PECS like TEACCH are more a coping system for schools than a

> communication system for kids.

>

> If an SLT breaks out her PECS cards for your very young child, you

> can be pretty sure she has made her mind up about whether your kid is

> going to speak or not.

>

> Giving PECS to very young non verbal children is in my opinion a

> crying shame. My boy didnt say his first real word till age 3.6

> years. I had every confidence in him, and whether or not he spoke,

> was not up to PECS - it was up to him and up to being motivated and

> having the ability to speak of course.

>

> Just like SLT's tried to teach my son " more " and " again " , WHY? These

> two words are conversation stoppers. There are hundreds of words she

> could have been teaching rather than these - but they are functional,

> and they make their mind up that your kid is only gonna have

> functional language, not conversational language.

>

> Regardless of whether your child is 4 or 44, if they arent given

> every chance and every possible outlet for communication I just think

> its patently unfair on them to assume, for young children, that they

> will need something like PECS.

>

>

> >

> > Dont let them do what they did to a friend of mine whose child asked

> > >

> > > for some water in class. She said this verbally, nice and clear.

> She

> > > was (now get this) asked to go and get her PECS water picture. I

> mean

> > > talk about stuffing this child's words back in her mouth.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > The same happened to my friend whose little boy asked for bubbles.

> He

> > said it and signed it but they made him find the correct picture

> for it.

> > My friend was visiting to see if the school had potential and this

> put

> > her off.

> > Sara

> >

>

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