Re: bipolar disorder

[Guest guest]

From what i've read about grains, gluten grains in particular, i would keep

those to a minimum or cut them out. Gluten grains are opioids and addictive

and generally not beneficial for someone struggling with a mental disorder.

For more info read Dangerous Grains. In all my nutritional readings i

consistently see examples of diet improving bipolar disorder. Just wish i

could remember more specifics now! Obviously sugars, refined foods and

chemical additives are going to be particularly detrimental.

Elaine

> My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder (during

> his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

> discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and my

> sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I would

> like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and encourage

> him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

> especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i'd get rid of gluten grains, personally. (hee! i beat the glutenator!) and

add probiotics (kefir, lacto-fermenteds, etc) also, a really good way to

make the changes is to just eat that stuff yourself. have you banned junk

food from your home yet? if not, go through your cabinets tonight and throw

away all the junk. get rid of any candy and processed snacks. get rid of

all the gluten. make your cabinets look like they belong in sally fallon's

house (but with no grains).

cause after all, he's coming to stay with YOU, right? you don't have to

convince him of anything, just cook as if you did this every day. after a

while you can explain to him what he's been eating all along. but if he's

like most guys, he's just gonna eat what you put in front of him, so there

ya go!

-katja

At 01:34 PM 5/28/2004, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>

>My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder (during

>his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

>weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

>discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and my

>sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I would

>like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and encourage

>him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

>amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

>makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

>disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

>Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

>especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

>

>Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fortunately, there is no candy (except my tiny bars of high quality

chocolate I keep hidden and nibble on occasionally) and almost no

junk food, although I keep a few select cookies and good quality ice

cream on hand for the kids and husband. He is actually not staying

with me, but next door with my sister, (who cooks well and

frequently, but doesn't follow NT at all). The gluten tip (thanks to

both of you) is a good one. I didn't think of that. I think he will

eat here regularly as well, and I can talk to him about some dietary

changes, but he is out and about, and I'm sure he's used to eating

fast food for lunch. What if I suggested he just start with the

obvious gluten (bread, pasta, wheat products), instead of reading

every label? Do you think he has to eliminate it completely to see

improvement or is it also a function of quantity injested?

Been in college for 2 years at a frat house, so his nutrition is

probably dismal.

> >Hi all,

> >

> >My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder

(during

> >his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> >weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

> >discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and

my

> >sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I

would

> >like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and encourage

> >him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> >amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> >makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> >disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> >Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

> >especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

> >

> >Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

well, i would say that he has to eliminate allllllll gluten.

except, i've seen people improve (albeit minimally) by just eliminating the

" easy " gluten - enough improvement that they're willing to try for the next

step. so i guess it comes down to your brother. if he freaks out when you

bring it up, then just go for as much as you can get, i guess. just it's

important to understand that if he wants drastic results, you gotta take

drastic measures. if he freaks about it, one possible suggestion would be

for you to do all the work for two weeks: just get him to agree to eat only

what you cook for him (which means you gotta make his lunches too!) for two

weeks and see if he improves...it's a bunch of work for you but if you

really want to make an impact on him, it would definitely work...

as for cookies and stuff, i have some great cookie and cake recipes using

ground crispy almonds - you don't even have to worry about xanthan gum and

all the different flours - they're very easy as a sort of " starter " in

gluten free baking...

-katja

At 03:20 PM 5/28/2004, you wrote:

>Fortunately, there is no candy (except my tiny bars of high quality

>chocolate I keep hidden and nibble on occasionally) and almost no

>junk food, although I keep a few select cookies and good quality ice

>cream on hand for the kids and husband. He is actually not staying

>with me, but next door with my sister, (who cooks well and

>frequently, but doesn't follow NT at all). The gluten tip (thanks to

>both of you) is a good one. I didn't think of that. I think he will

>eat here regularly as well, and I can talk to him about some dietary

>changes, but he is out and about, and I'm sure he's used to eating

>fast food for lunch. What if I suggested he just start with the

>obvious gluten (bread, pasta, wheat products), instead of reading

>every label? Do you think he has to eliminate it completely to see

>improvement or is it also a function of quantity injested?

>

>Been in college for 2 years at a frat house, so his nutrition is

>probably dismal.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I also have to mention HCl, just because it's done so many good things for

me. We pay so much attention to probiotics and enzymes, but if you're

stomach isn't making enough of its own HCl, then you'll have problems of all

kinds. After being on it for about a month now my skin has natural moisture

again and my constipation (and temporary diarrhea) are resolved. You take a

little with each meal, upping the dose until you feel burning in your

stomach and then cutting back to the previous days dose. I've heard you stay

on it for 3 to 6 months. As for glutens, i would say eliminating the easy

stuff is good for starters. it's a big step.

Elaine

> well, i would say that he has to eliminate allllllll gluten.

> except, i've seen people improve (albeit minimally) by just eliminating the

> " easy " gluten - enough improvement that they're willing to try for the next

> step. so i guess it comes down to your brother. if he freaks out when you

> bring it up, then just go for as much as you can get, i guess. just it's

> important to understand that if he wants drastic results, you gotta take

> drastic measures. if he freaks about it, one possible suggestion would be

> for you to do all the work for two weeks: just get him to agree to eat only

> what you cook for him (which means you gotta make his lunches too!) for two

> weeks and see if he improves...it's a bunch of work for you but if you

> really want to make an impact on him, it would definitely work...

>

> as for cookies and stuff, i have some great cookie and cake recipes using

> ground crispy almonds - you don't even have to worry about xanthan gum and

> all the different flours - they're very easy as a sort of " starter " in

> gluten free baking...

> -katja

>

> At 03:20 PM 5/28/2004, you wrote:

>> Fortunately, there is no candy (except my tiny bars of high quality

>> chocolate I keep hidden and nibble on occasionally) and almost no

>> junk food, although I keep a few select cookies and good quality ice

>> cream on hand for the kids and husband. He is actually not staying

>> with me, but next door with my sister, (who cooks well and

>> frequently, but doesn't follow NT at all). The gluten tip (thanks to

>> both of you) is a good one. I didn't think of that. I think he will

>> eat here regularly as well, and I can talk to him about some dietary

>> changes, but he is out and about, and I'm sure he's used to eating

>> fast food for lunch. What if I suggested he just start with the

>> obvious gluten (bread, pasta, wheat products), instead of reading

>> every label? Do you think he has to eliminate it completely to see

>> improvement or is it also a function of quantity injested?

>>

>> Been in college for 2 years at a frat house, so his nutrition is

>> probably dismal.

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Fish oil. B vitamins.

Al

> Hi all,

>

> My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder

(during

> his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

> discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and

my

> sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I

would

> like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and encourage

> him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

> especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm new to message boards. I suspect my reply went to you

previously, but I am not sure.

I'm here because my 23 year-old son was diagnosed bipolar 4 months

ago. This put me on a new path that led me to WPF, thence here.

Please do your nutritional research. Use PubMed. Look at Stoll et.

al., a pilot study done at Harvard psych hospital. Fish oil. EPA,

DHA. Your brain, and your brother's brain, is composed of 60% fat.

Each cell uses lipids in the cell membrane. With the proper lipids,

the cell processes work correctly. If you do not provide your body

with the proper lipids, it will use the only lipids it has

available. Sorry, these fats don't work at the cellular level as

well as the proper ones. Hence, mental illness.

Essential fatty acids. EFAs. The good fats.

My son is off the high tech drugs, and is much better.

B vitamins helped tremendously also.

I've been where you are now, just 4 months ago. My son was admitted

to a psych hospital during a manic phase. Hyper talking. The mental

illness doctors prescribed risperdal. Did you know risperdal is

and 's second largest selling drug? $1.6 billion in

sales last year. It's an epidemic, the one nobody talks about.

These 'health care pros' don't know anything about good health. The

drug companies are in pursuit of profits, not health.

There is hope. We found an MD that believes in good health. Don't

know where you are, but there is a growing network of folks around

that can help you.

Al

> Hi all,

>

> My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder

(during

> his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

> discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and

my

> sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I

would

> like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and encourage

> him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

> especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about just having him read NT? I think the book does a better job of

convincing people that their diet may be at the root of their problems.

Helen

> From: courtneysavin <courtneysavin@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:34:57 +0000

>

> Subject: bipolar disorder

>

> Hi all,

>

> My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder (during

> his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

> discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and my

> sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I would

> like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and encourage

> him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

> especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>What if I suggested he just start with the

>obvious gluten (bread, pasta, wheat products), instead of reading

>every label? Do you think he has to eliminate it completely to see

>improvement or is it also a function of quantity injested?

It really depends on the person. The best bet would

be to get him tested ... I don't know of anything other

than anectdotal evidence for bipolar being related

to gluten, but I did know 2 bipolar people personally

and both showed other symptoms of gluten intolerance

(one had lupus), and overall people with mental problems

in general have way more than their share of IgA gliadin

antibodies.

If he has other symptoms of gluten intolerance (IBS, canker

sores, migraines, rashes, indigestion) then that is a good reason

to get him tested even without the bipolar.

Some anectdotal:

http://remedyfind.com/rm-2857-Diet.asp

For myself I go pretty weird with minute amounts

of gluten, but my " mostly GF " diet that I started out

with made a big difference ... to the negative, at first,

I couldn't think straight.

I would encourage you to encourage him to take his

meds though. If he starts to get better he can work

with the doc to cut down on them, but stopping meds

is rather nasty, and a lot of bipolar people hate to take them

(the one I dealt with said it made her feel " normal " and she

didn't want to be " normal " !).

Also, if you do have control of his diet I wouldn't hide

all the " bad " food ... I'd just make it GF. My family didn't

really notice the change until I started talking about it.

They really don't care what the noodles or brownies

are made of. And most people do seem to prefer steak,

if it is there!

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

I agree about drastic measures, but I think if he takes a significant

step, and notices a positive difference, he may be encouraged to take

more drastic measures which are much harder to do. I would very much

like those dessert recipes you mention, particularly if they are

delicious and feel free to email them to me off line, or tell me

where I can get them.

> >Fortunately, there is no candy (except my tiny bars of high quality

> >chocolate I keep hidden and nibble on occasionally) and almost no

> >junk food, although I keep a few select cookies and good quality

ice

> >cream on hand for the kids and husband. He is actually not staying

> >with me, but next door with my sister, (who cooks well and

> >frequently, but doesn't follow NT at all). The gluten tip (thanks

to

> >both of you) is a good one. I didn't think of that. I think he

will

> >eat here regularly as well, and I can talk to him about some

dietary

> >changes, but he is out and about, and I'm sure he's used to eating

> >fast food for lunch. What if I suggested he just start with the

> >obvious gluten (bread, pasta, wheat products), instead of reading

> >every label? Do you think he has to eliminate it completely to see

> >improvement or is it also a function of quantity injested?

> >

> >Been in college for 2 years at a frat house, so his nutrition is

> >probably dismal.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I got your personal reply and thank you very much for these

suggestions. I'll do some research and start him on the good fats.

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder

> (during

> > his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> > weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was

just

> > discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and

> my

> > sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I

> would

> > like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and

encourage

> > him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> > amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> > makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> > disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> > Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might

be

> > especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

> >

> > Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I can certainly suggest that and maybe he would read it. I will have

to see. He's generally not been much of a reader in the past. It

would certainly be more coherent if he read the book rather than

having me attempt to explain it piecemeal.

--- In , Lampinen <lampinen@s...>

wrote:

> What about just having him read NT? I think the book does a better

job of

> convincing people that their diet may be at the root of their

problems.

>

> Helen

>

> > From: courtneysavin <courtneysavin@c...>

> > Reply-

> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:34:57 +0000

> >

> > Subject: bipolar disorder

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder

(during

> > his first manic episode)and is doing much much better the last 2

> > weeks, after being hospitalized and starting medication. Was just

> > discharged from a psych unit and is coming up to stay with me and

my

> > sister (next door) for the summer. He grew up with the SAD. I

would

> > like to get some ideas of the best things to feed him and

encourage

> > him to add to his diet on a daily basis. Hopefully he will be

> > amenable to my suggestions but I can't expect a total instant

> > makeover. What would be a healing diet for this particular

> > disorder? Raw milk every day? lacto-fermented veggies every day?

> > Kefir/kefilli? Primal Defense? What kinds of deficiencies might be

> > especially prevelent among someone with this disorder?

> >

> > Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't really know if he has other symptoms, but having him tested

is a good idea. I have a fabulous holistic chiro who does testing

and that's a great idea! He may uncover several things my brother

should avoid, and could also made some suggestions of what

nutritional supplementation would support his system. I agree with

you about the meds and my family is all united in encouraging him to

take them as prescribed, and perhaps in the future with improvement,

his prescription may change.

Thanks to everyone for these ideas, and if there are any more, I'll

appreciate them. In the meantime, however, I will get started, and I

appreciate the group for all the suggestions.

>

>> It really depends on the person. The best bet would

> be to get him tested ... I don't know of anything other

> than anectdotal evidence for bipolar being related

> to gluten, but I did know 2 bipolar people personally

> and both showed other symptoms of gluten intolerance

> (one had lupus), and overall people with mental problems

> in general have way more than their share of IgA gliadin

> antibodies.

>

> If he has other symptoms of gluten intolerance (IBS, canker

> sores, migraines, rashes, indigestion) then that is a good reason

> to get him tested even without the bipolar.

>

> Some anectdotal:

>

> http://remedyfind.com/rm-2857-Diet.asp

>

> For myself I go pretty weird with minute amounts

> of gluten, but my " mostly GF " diet that I started out

> with made a big difference ... to the negative, at first,

> I couldn't think straight.

>

> I would encourage you to encourage him to take his

> meds though. If he starts to get better he can work

> with the doc to cut down on them, but stopping meds

> is rather nasty, and a lot of bipolar people hate to take them

> (the one I dealt with said it made her feel " normal " and she

> didn't want to be " normal " !).

>

> Also, if you do have control of his diet I wouldn't hide

> all the " bad " food ... I'd just make it GF. My family didn't

> really notice the change until I started talking about it.

> They really don't care what the noodles or brownies

> are made of. And most people do seem to prefer steak,

> if it is there!

>

> -- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

I just told my friend who works with disabled kids about the high-fat diet

and the brain and she said one of the kids she works with was cured (or is

at least now symptom-free) of a severe seizure disorder from a high fat

diet. Very interesting, and one of the easier diets to implement.

Elaine

[Guest guest]

That's fascinating. I was talking to a friend today who said just adding

sausage to his daily diet has improved his mood tremendously, as if he were

taking prozac.

> EFA's from fish oil providing EPA and DHA to the fat starved brain was my

> first thought too. Low fat and/or substitution of animal/fish fats with high

> PUFA plant origin fats is paving a road to many human diseases. Cardiologist

> on NPR few weeks back said 1 in 6 high school students graduating has the

> beginnings of heart disease in their arteries and 2 in 10 college students

> are on some form of antidepressant. CSPAN hearing the other day said 1 in 5

> Americans has or has had a mental disorder. Can almost hear the ching ching

> of those magic cure pill bank accounts going up. Epidemics only happen when

> nature goes awry. A more natural human existence with less requirements for

> survival and more of nature's quality foods for fuel is the real magic cure.

> On the upside, the U.K. has had good success with reduced recidivism of

> people getting out of prison. They are providing them with EFA's and a

> multivitamin only, if I remember correctly.One woman said she'd never felt

> so in control of herself in her life. Prescription for Nutritional Healing

> suggests for bipolar along with EFA's, a free form amino acid complex to

> supply protein for brain support, B complex or liver extract (Solgar has

> high quality Argentinian beef liver extract), good multi with 1,500 mg.

> calcium and 750 mg.magnesium and 50 mg. zinc. If the cal and mag aren't

> taken in a multi I'd add a cal with D with separate mag to that too. D helps

> seasonal depression. Have sent this before to a neighbor whose husband is

> bipolar. On the grain free. My absorption of everything increased

> tremendously after going grain free. Following summary from celiac list

> about celiac and bipolar.

[Guest guest]

Elaine,

Extra animal fat, protein and amino acids must have done it for your friend.

Neighbor started eating more potatoes after reading Potatoes Not Prozac few

winters back. Helped her seasonal depression I think because by eating more

potatoes she ate less grains. She did say last week her father had celiac as

a baby but did eat grains later. Told her its a genetic reaction that

doesn't go away and runs in families. Neighbor is a fraternal twin, her

brother died at birth. Was a twin celiac study posted recently.

Wanita

> That's fascinating. I was talking to a friend today who said just adding

> sausage to his daily diet has improved his mood tremendously, as if he

were

> taking prozac.

[Guest guest]

Just one more vote about cutting back on grain, particularly wheat.

The stuff can be absolutely noxious for people with mood disorders.

Omega-3s; omega-3s; omega-3s.

And in the general commonsense department - avoid the overly

processed junk as much as possible - additives, perservatives, and

food in forms humans really were not meant to eat wrecks more havoc

on someone who has trouble keeping their chemistry in balance to

begin with.

> Hi all,

>

> My 20 yr old brother was just diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder

[Guest guest]

________________________________

Does anyone on this listserv know anything about bipolar disorder?

I would appreciate any insight into this disorder, particularly as it relates to

children.

Thanks!

Robyn

[Guest guest]

HI Robyn,

I don't, but I do have a close friend and her son has it. Would you forward

any info you get to me so I can give it to her?

Thanks!

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn

& Greg Coggins

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: Bipolar Disorder

________________________________

Does anyone on this listserv know anything about bipolar disorder?

I would appreciate any insight into this disorder, particularly as it

relates to children.

Thanks!

Robyn

[Guest guest]

>

>

> excellent website here

>

> http://www.jbrf.org/juv_bipolar/index.html lots of info in faq and many

> linked pages.

>

> many overlaps with autism. According to some docs very high comorbity of both

> bipolar and schizophrenia in ASD kids, but hard to spot as get painted over as

> ³autism² or masked BY autism symptoms, especially if child is not verbal.

>

>

> Natasa

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Does anyone on this listserv know anything about bipolar disorder?

>

> I would appreciate any insight into this disorder, particularly as it relates

> to children.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Robyn

>

>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone's child been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder? If so, how old and what

were the most prevalent symptoms?

TIA,

Robyn

________________________________

[Guest guest]

What are some of the signs?

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn

& Greg Coggins

Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:14 AM

Subject: Re: Bipolar Disorder

Has anyone's child been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder? If so, how old and

what were the most prevalent symptoms?

TIA,

Robyn

________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have bipolar disorder.  My son is not diagnosed yet.  Right now, he is

diagnosed wtih adhd, spd, and Aspergers.  I wonder about early onset bipolar

for him.  I am sure I was early onset.  i was depressed and insecure as a

child.  My first suicide attempt was at twelve.  I did not believe my parents

loved me.  I had few friends,  and sometimes lost friends because I had days

when I was " too silly " and my classmates did not know how to handle it.-hth,

ka

" Mom, I'm 6 years old now. I think I'm old enough to cut my own hair! "

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Subject: Re: Bipolar Disorder

Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 2:13 PM

 

Has anyone's child been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder? If so, how old

and what were the most prevalent symptoms?

TIA,

Robyn

____________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

Apparently, bipolar symptoms in children can vary somewhat. Lows and extreme

highs, angry, often aggressive, often an inflated sense of self along with

feeling worthless during the lows, sometimes paranoia. It usually cycles and can

have somewhat typical kid behavior between episodes. In severe cases, they

bounce from high to low. Bipolar disorder has degrees within the diagnostic

category.

Robyn

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From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

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Subject: RE: Bipolar Disorder

What are some of the signs?

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Subject: Re: Bipolar Disorder

Has anyone's child been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder? If so, how old and

what were the most prevalent symptoms?

TIA,

Robyn

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HI,

There is a good article online...i will have to look for it again.  It

explained that there are degrees to it....Like, a child with adhd will have

tantrums, but a child with bipolar will have much longer tantrums and will be

more irrational.  With bipolar the episodes last longer.  Also, I know from

personal experience that if you are bipolar, adhd meds will not help at all! 

So if your child has been on adhd meds with no improvement, you might consider

bipolar.

I must add, though, it is a fine line and a medical doctor is the best one to

make the call-preferably a specialist!-hth, ka

" Mom, I'm 6 years old now. I think I'm old enough to cut my own hair! "

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

Subject: RE: Bipolar Disorder

Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 2:30 PM

 

What are some of the signs?

Kristy Nardini

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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:14 AM

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Subject: Re: Bipolar Disorder

Has anyone's child been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder? If so, how old and

what were the most prevalent symptoms?

TIA,

Robyn

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