Re: back to b12

[Guest guest]

Hi Lesley

Good to meet you at the SC. Just a quick thing about B12 - there are two reasons

for lack of the vitamin. Either the body's inability to absorb B12 or the

inability to store it. The causes are opposite. You need to look at your diet

and decide if you are eating too strictly. Too much grain, not enough oil, too

much baked foods and salt etc. Sometimes we forget that breads and cracked grain

such as oatmeal are also taking up our grain portion and we are actually up

eating more like 80% than 40-50%!! The other cause is too much sweets, oil and

fruit. I know a few macros that had low B12 and decided to have the shot or took

supplements which can both be very helpful in getting things back on track. A

one shot deal (literally!) isn't such a bad thing and gives you a starting place

to work from. Oh yes it is liver related too and can take a long time to change

if only using diet.

I have read a few of the emails and find everyones comments very interesting.

Just remember you healthy folk our there that macro eating is great fun and

delicious. Problems occur within the diet when the healthy ones start to eat

like unheathy ones and sort of forget that they can enjoy a wide variety of

foods including bread, oil and dessert. The key is balance and anything taken in

excess can cause problems whether it is cookies or rice. We are all human and no

one is perfect or meant to be. There will be days when bread is the most

delicious thing to eat and that is fine. Enjoy it and remember to make balance

again the next day with lots of llightly cooked vegs etc. Of course the ideal is

well balanced everyday but if that is difficult due to work, kids or environment

make sure to have plenty of vegs and sort of balance your diet over the week

with different cooking styles and ingredients. Health is a direction that we

move towards. We either move towards health or away from it and it can be a bit

wobbly at times. The ideal is to have many days of vitality, inner strength and

a sense of well being rather than trying to reach a static ideal of health.

Health is one of those things that is always be just out of reach.

Thanks for letting me join by the way.

Have a beautiful Tuesday

Many blessings

back to b12

>

>Just out of curiosity and desire to maintain strong health, I went to

>my physician to get my serum B12 tested. A normal range is 220 to 900

>(not sure what the unit of meaurement is), but mine was 180, so I have

>to work harder to supplement(but luckily not showing signs of anemia).

>I'm going back in a couple of months to have it tested again. Thought

>I'd share with the group since we talked about this before. I was

>surprised though I guess I shouldn't be. Reggie, have you had yours

>tested?

>

>The doctor was worried about my cholesterol. The low end of average is

>around 220, and mine turned out to be 109, with 47 points of that being

>the good cholesterol. She was duly impressed. That was kind of fun to

>learn about.

>

>Hope everyone is well.

>

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Brown Waxman

www.celebrate4health.com

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[Guest guest]

I had a cbc I think and my cholesterol thingy where it was high. I

should probably get that info sent to me.

How will you get your b12 up? more tempeh?

I think normal range goes up so high b/c of the meat eaters with too

much don't you think? Things become " normal " just b/c more ppl have

it?

>

> Just out of curiosity and desire to maintain strong health, I went

to

> my physician to get my serum B12 tested. A normal range is 220 to

900

> (not sure what the unit of meaurement is), but mine was 180, so I

have

> to work harder to supplement(but luckily not showing signs of

anemia).

> I'm going back in a couple of months to have it tested again.

Thought

> I'd share with the group since we talked about this before. I was

> surprised though I guess I shouldn't be. Reggie, have you had

yours

> tested?

>

> The doctor was worried about my cholesterol. The low end of

average is

> around 220, and mine turned out to be 109, with 47 points of that

being

> the good cholesterol. She was duly impressed. That was kind of

fun to

> learn about.

>

> Hope everyone is well.

>

[Guest guest]

I had a cbc I think and my cholesterol thingy where it was high. I

should probably get that info sent to me.

How will you get your b12 up? more tempeh?

I think normal range goes up so high b/c of the meat eaters with too

much don't you think? Things become " normal " just b/c more ppl have

it?

>

> Just out of curiosity and desire to maintain strong health, I went

to

> my physician to get my serum B12 tested. A normal range is 220 to

900

> (not sure what the unit of meaurement is), but mine was 180, so I

have

> to work harder to supplement(but luckily not showing signs of

anemia).

> I'm going back in a couple of months to have it tested again.

Thought

> I'd share with the group since we talked about this before. I was

> surprised though I guess I shouldn't be. Reggie, have you had

yours

> tested?

>

> The doctor was worried about my cholesterol. The low end of

average is

> around 220, and mine turned out to be 109, with 47 points of that

being

> the good cholesterol. She was duly impressed. That was kind of

fun to

> learn about.

>

> Hope everyone is well.

>

[Guest guest]

How long have you been vegan? What seaweed do you eat most?

Maybe I should get mine checked?

>

> My B12 levels are above normal, and I am vegan. I guess there is B12

> in that seaweed after all!!!!

>

[Guest guest]

Clams??????????? Simon!!! This is a vegan group. 40 lashes with a

carrot!

Any vegan suggestions?

I know about , I would love to meet up with her. 7 kids I

could hardly imagine that. Girl, you get a prize or 2.

Gaz, do you have 's book on cybermacro???

>

> Hello Lesley and Mel,

>

> Another potentially confusing part of the B12 issue is that we

normally

> store several years worth of B12 and it is therefore possible to

eat a vegan

> macrobiotic style diet for some time before being depleted.

Everyone is

> different and some people do manage on a vegan macrobiotic diet

for long

> periods but not everyone, so it does need careful consideration

and regular

> checks are a good idea. In my experience it is not enough to rely

on sea

> vegetables and fermented foods as was once claimed. If you wanted

to

> increase your B12 through food the quickest way is to cook clams

into your

> miso soup. These are a very primitive life form and although

classified as

> an animal food you could argue are much closer to vegetables in

terms of

> spirit.

>

> All the best,

>

> Simon

>

> PS has a new cookbook out for children. Having brought up

seven

> children of her own and helped me with my boys and many others she

certainly

> has the experience!

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I was just at WF a few hours ago and saw all the b12 but they all

have fructose in them. There is one liquid sweetened with agave

syrup but it's $20. I'm going to have to wait before buying it.

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> > I take a sublingual Vit. B-12 about once a week. It's a little

pink

> dot that you dissolve under your tongue, and it is definitely not

> analog so your body is able to absorb and use it quite well. I get

> mine from Whole Foods, you can get a bottle of 50 for almost no

money

> at all, and since I only take one a week that's a whole year's

> supply! I never thought about the B-12 shot before, interesting.

> Will have to look that one up.

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