Hives in toddler from boysenberries - leaky gut?

[Guest guest]

I just figured out that my dd is getting hives from her grandmothers

boysenberry bush and that she is not being attacked by insects. She easily

has 200 welts at a time all over her body, mostly legs and arms but some on

her trunk. Does anyone know why this could be happening to her and if

perhaps her gut is not strong and that is why she could be allergic to

something?

Thanks,

Helen

[Guest guest]

>I just figured out that my dd is getting hives from her grandmothers

>boysenberry bush and that she is not being attacked by insects. She easily

>has 200 welts at a time all over her body, mostly legs and arms but some on

>her trunk. Does anyone know why this could be happening to her and if

>perhaps her gut is not strong and that is why she could be allergic to

>something?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Helen

I don't know, but I am in contact with folks who have kids who react

to berries. Might be something in the berries, or the yeast

that grows on them, or the mold that is usually on them. Or the sun ...

I used to get welts from being in the sun (now I blame canola oil, I don't

get it any more). Berries do seem to be problematic for some folks, my

sister used to react to strawberries big time.

Caladryl lotion helps with the itching though ...

I also have to add that when I go berry picking I come back looking

like I've been attacked by a feral cat! Perhaps your berries are " nicer "

but being out in the grass (usually hip high, by this time of year) and

amongst the thorns etc. adds all kinds of allergenic possibilities. I tend

to think kids getting a good diet and lots of probiotics won't have

so many issues.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/6/04 7:40:35 PM, lampinen@... writes:

> Heidi, could gluten also be a problem.  When people go gf don't their

> allergies usually disappear?

>

> Helen

>

>

I'm gluten free (also grain and dairy free) and just recovered from a week

long serious case of hives (had to get epinephrine) I've not had allergies

before but it turned out to be tree pollen (if you need drug free hive

management

advice let me know LOL).

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Heidi, could gluten also be a problem. When people go gf don't their

allergies usually disappear?

Helen

From: Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...>

Reply-

Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:49:45 -0700

Subject: Re: Hives in toddler from boysenberries - leaky gut?

>I just figured out that my dd is getting hives from her grandmothers

>boysenberry bush and that she is not being attacked by insects. She easily

>has 200 welts at a time all over her body, mostly legs and arms but some on

>her trunk. Does anyone know why this could be happening to her and if

>perhaps her gut is not strong and that is why she could be allergic to

>something?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Helen

I don't know, but I am in contact with folks who have kids who react

to berries. Might be something in the berries, or the yeast

that grows on them, or the mold that is usually on them. Or the sun ...

I used to get welts from being in the sun (now I blame canola oil, I don't

get it any more). Berries do seem to be problematic for some folks, my

sister used to react to strawberries big time.

Caladryl lotion helps with the itching though ...

I also have to add that when I go berry picking I come back looking

like I've been attacked by a feral cat! Perhaps your berries are " nicer "

but being out in the grass (usually hip high, by this time of year) and

amongst the thorns etc. adds all kinds of allergenic possibilities. I tend

to think kids getting a good diet and lots of probiotics won't have

so many issues.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>Heidi, could gluten also be a problem. When people go gf don't their

>allergies usually disappear?

>

>Helen

They can disappear ... but often they get WORSE. At least

for awhile. I started getting really sore knees when I

ate corn, they got all red and swollen, something I'd

never had before. My guess is that when you eat

wheat and are gluten intolerant, the immune system is

so overloaded it doesn't really work anymore, it just

kind of ignores everything. When it heals, it goes bonkers.

Anyway, a lot of people have described this problem

while they are healing.

Going GF didn't make me feel great at first, for the

first week I felt like I got hit by a truck, I could

barely move. Worse than giving up coffee! But

the fact I felt BAD made me pretty sure it was a

very reactive substance ... I can give up apples or

oranges or eggs or beef for a week and feel no

difference at all.

Then a month or so later I got the joint pain, and started

getting migraines 3x a week, and at one point I could

barely walk for the pain. But believe it or not, I was

FEELING better, chipper even! No depression, self-pity,

or neurosis.

So I can't say there is any one thing that will happen

for everyone. I do think the general SAD diet, and gluten

problems make the diet worse because of leaky gut

and malabsoption, will make allergies develop where

they wouldn't otherwise. The research seems to be

pointing to bacteria being a big part of the issue ... if

the gut isn't colonized by the right bacteria, people

tend to develop all kinds of issues.

OTOH, my dh and ds (who are hive-prone) have been

hive free since we've been wheat-free. The one exception

was when they got some contaminated food ... both of

them broke out in a nice rash on their trunks, which

worried me until I heard the whole story!

-- Heidi Jean