Re: Social Politness

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Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

Oh, I should point something out. There is a reason why the TASERs are in touble. They basically work on the same principle of a stun gun but their delivery is different. What they do is fire a pair of barbs that actually stick in the target and wires lead back to the unit. The person holding the unit can then fire the device as often as needed. The problem though is that the barbs break the skin. By breaking the skin, the electric charge in intruduced inside the body rather than on the skin. This makes it much more dangerous. I don't know the exact set of mechanics needed to kill someone with the thing, but it is still much less lethal than a gunshot.

[Guest guest]

Safe for whom? The user or the recipient? ;-))

Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

Oh, I should point something out. There is a reason why the TASERs are in touble. They basically work on the same principle of a stun gun but their delivery is different. What they do is fire a pair of barbs that actually stick in the target and wires lead back to the unit. The person holding the unit can then fire the device as often as needed. The problem though is that the barbs break the skin. By breaking the skin, the electric charge in intruduced inside the body rather than on the skin. This makes it much more dangerous. I don't know the exact set of mechanics needed to kill someone with the thing, but it is still much less lethal than a gunshot.

[Guest guest]

Safe for whom? The user or the recipient? ;-))

Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

> In most states they are. They aren't like the TASERS you have been hearing about and are safe to use. Its only high crime areas like New York City, Washington DC and California where they are illegal. Most places are pretty safe, but you never really know when you are going to run across someone with bad intentions.

[Guest guest]

Safe for whom? The user or the recipient? ;-))

Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

> In most states they are. They aren't like the TASERS you have been hearing about and are safe to use. Its only high crime areas like New York City, Washington DC and California where they are illegal. Most places are pretty safe, but you never really know when you are going to run across someone with bad intentions.

[Guest guest]

Safe for whom? The user or the recipient? ;-))

Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

> In most states they are. They aren't like the TASERS you have been hearing about and are safe to use. Its only high crime areas like New York City, Washington DC and California where they are illegal. Most places are pretty safe, but you never really know when you are going to run across someone with bad intentions.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the detailed reply. I've said it before but once again I'm struck by your ability to describe things so that one really gets it.

And yes... I agree it beats getting shot or stabbed. :-)

Inger

Re: Re: Social Politness

Safe for whom? The user or the recipient? ;-))

Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

Inger,

It is something like a cattle prod, but works on a different principle. A cattle prod uses a charge simply to inflict pain. Stun guns work in a couple of ways. Most of them use a 50,000 to 150,000 volts charge to make the muscles spasm very rapidly and tire themselves out and it very painful. The kind I have uses 25,000 volts at the same frequency as the voluntary nervous system. It works by jamming those nerves with an effect that lasts for about 10 minutes. This is safer than the other type because it uses lower voltage, it affects only the voluntary nerves and doesn't load the body with lactic acid like the others.

As for the other questions, yes I am imagine it does hurt. No, I have never tried on myself and I don't intend to any more than I intend to shoot or stab myself to see what that feels like. I have zapped the thing on metal objects just to see how far the machine would reach and my hand did feel a little tingly after that.

I do think it is safer for both the weilder and the target. Yes it will hurt the target for the second or so the device is in contact and firing, but once the charge stops, the pain stops. The effects are also temporary. Both of those beats getting shot, stabbed or beaten senseless. For the wielder it is better because there is less hesitation to actually use it if you really have to, you won't seriously hurt the other person so you won't have that on your conscience, and the legal ramifications are much less again because you won't seriously hurt them and it shows restraint.

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the detailed reply. I've said it before but once again I'm struck by your ability to describe things so that one really gets it.

And yes... I agree it beats getting shot or stabbed. :-)

Inger

Re: Re: Social Politness

Safe for whom? The user or the recipient? ;-))

Is it like a cattle prodder? Have you had one tried on yourself? What does it do really? Does it hurt?

Inger

Inger,

It is something like a cattle prod, but works on a different principle. A cattle prod uses a charge simply to inflict pain. Stun guns work in a couple of ways. Most of them use a 50,000 to 150,000 volts charge to make the muscles spasm very rapidly and tire themselves out and it very painful. The kind I have uses 25,000 volts at the same frequency as the voluntary nervous system. It works by jamming those nerves with an effect that lasts for about 10 minutes. This is safer than the other type because it uses lower voltage, it affects only the voluntary nerves and doesn't load the body with lactic acid like the others.

As for the other questions, yes I am imagine it does hurt. No, I have never tried on myself and I don't intend to any more than I intend to shoot or stab myself to see what that feels like. I have zapped the thing on metal objects just to see how far the machine would reach and my hand did feel a little tingly after that.

I do think it is safer for both the weilder and the target. Yes it will hurt the target for the second or so the device is in contact and firing, but once the charge stops, the pain stops. The effects are also temporary. Both of those beats getting shot, stabbed or beaten senseless. For the wielder it is better because there is less hesitation to actually use it if you really have to, you won't seriously hurt the other person so you won't have that on your conscience, and the legal ramifications are much less again because you won't seriously hurt them and it shows restraint.

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."