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who was it that said 3-4 was a cinch? ack! not for me! 1-2 was easy,

but i think that's because my oldest was 3.4 yrs, very mature for his

age.....#3 just came unexpectedly 3 mos ago when #2 was 20 mos old

and we are SO done now.....#2 is a little hellion right now :), well

ok, 'strong-willed' - lol! and it has been really hard to deal with

him with a newborn as well......so i totally admire those of you with

alot of kids - you are saints! especially if some of them are strong-

willed - hehe :D

carrie

> In a message dated 12/28/01 6:21:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> titus2quiver@e... writes:

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> > On the subject of large families, we are expecting baby #8 in May

(and hope

> > God gives us many more). :) Are there others on the list with a

large

> > family like us?

>

> If I wasn't ALWAYS going into the red at the bank - I'd be right

there with

> you - we don't even own out own House..... so no more kids here.

> Chelly

> San Diego, CA

> Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

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<<who was it that said 3-4 was a cinch? ack! not for me! 1-2 was easy,

but i think that's because my oldest was 3.4 yrs, very mature for his

age.....#3 just came unexpectedly 3 mos ago when #2 was 20 mos old

and we are SO done now.....#2 is a little hellion right now :), well

ok, 'strong-willed' - lol! and it has been really hard to deal with

him with a newborn as well......so i totally admire those of you with

alot of kids - you are saints! especially if some of them are strong-

willed - hehe :D>>

ROFLOL... that was me! #4 is a my little piece of sunshine! I have to grin

at the idea of SOME of them being strong willed! They are ALL strong-willed

(especially , #2)... life was hardest when I was pregnant with #3, as I

was very tired and it was the peak of 's autistic symptoms. Now he is a

relatively easy to deal with five year old. 2-3 was hard, but I'm not sure

if it was because of the autism, because we moved 1400 miles one week after

#3 was born, or if it was the fact that I spent the first five months of his

life doing round the clock nursing care for my dying MIL. His whole first

year is a blur to me. But 3-4 has been a piece of cake.

My biggest fear is that I'll forget Amber somewhere! We had the two big

kids (9 and 5) with us when we were coming home from watching my oldest

dance in The Nutcracker. Jon and Amber (3 and 7 months) were at my mom and

dad's home. I went straight home from Symphony Hall! LOL... I'm in the

driveway and Joe says " Don't you think we should go pick up the kids? " I

had literally FORGOTTEN them! Completely! I didn't think that was

possible.

I actually hate summers because my oldest goes to spend a month with grandma

and grandpa in ID. I miss her so much. And this summer, gets to go,

too! It is going to be SO weird to only have the two little ones!

Goldmeer

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I wanted 4 children ... I got them, perfect happiness, but our son's

death pushed us to decide for a 5th one (to get the family on track,

towards a happy thing), and this 5th is going to be 5 AND 6 !!!

But, having been through 16 monthes of cancer treatment for my son,

let me tell you that I would not be afraid to have 15 children as

long as they are healthy ...

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Cécile, wife to , mother of Nathalie(11.5), Sandrine(8.5), Karine(6) and

andre(forever 3.5) dx 02/00 NBIV N-MYC amplified. Left us on June 14th, 2001

andre sent us two new babies due next Spring .... e-mail :

cecilecogez@...

andre's story : http://www.caringbridge.com/page/alexandre

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Hi Cicile,

I wish you 2 extremely healthy, placid babies (having twins with 3 others

sounds wonderful - especially when they are old enough to help out!) after

all you've been through. I wanted to know also, how will you go with getting

vaccination exemption for your babies? I had heard that there were no

exemptions allowed in France - even for medical reasons. But that could be

wrong?

All the best,

Meryl

-----Original Message-----

From: Cicile Cogez [mailto:cecilecogez@...]

I wanted 4 children ... I got them, perfect happiness, but our son's

death pushed us to decide for a 5th one (to get the family on track,

towards a happy thing), and this 5th is going to be 5 AND 6 !!!

But, having been through 16 monthes of cancer treatment for my son,

let me tell you that I would not be afraid to have 15 children as

long as they are healthy ...

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Hello Meryl,

As long as I am able to get a medical certificate telling my children

are allergic to vaccinations, they will be exempted ...

All vaccines are not mandatory either (MMR is not, for example).

But it's very difficult to decide what to do ... I had almost decided

they would get the polio and tetanus (but not the others), but I am

not anymore convinced it's a good idea ...

What do you all do ?

Thanks

=====

Cécile, wife to , mother of Nathalie(11.5), Sandrine(8.5), Karine(6) and

andre(forever 3.5) dx 02/00 NBIV N-MYC amplified. Left us on June 14th, 2001

andre sent us two new babies due next Spring .... e-mail :

cecilecogez@...

andre's story : http://www.caringbridge.com/page/alexandre

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Absolutely nothing.

Kathleen

In a message dated 12/30/2001 2:01:03 AM Central Standard Time,

cecilecogez@... writes:

> Hello Meryl,

> As long as I am able to get a medical certificate telling my children

> are allergic to vaccinations, they will be exempted ...

> All vaccines are not mandatory either (MMR is not, for example).

> But it's very difficult to decide what to do ... I had almost decided

> they would get the polio and tetanus (but not the others), but I am

> not anymore convinced it's a good idea ...

> What do you all do ?

> Thanks

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Ditto, Kim

> Absolutely nothing.

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> Kathleen

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> In a message dated 12/30/2001 2:01:03 AM Central Standard Time,

> cecilecogez@... writes:

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> > Hello Meryl,

> > As long as I am able to get a medical certificate telling my children

> > are allergic to vaccinations, they will be exempted ...

> > All vaccines are not mandatory either (MMR is not, for example).

> > But it's very difficult to decide what to do ... I had almost decided

> > they would get the polio and tetanus (but not the others), but I am

> > not anymore convinced it's a good idea ...

> > What do you all do ?

> > Thanks

>

>

> The Four Stages Of Life

> 1. You believe in Santa Claus

> 2. You don't believe in Santa Claus

> 3. You are Santa Claus

> 4. You look like Santa Claus

>

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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:04:41 -0400

Busse <laurabusse@...> wrote:

> that's right, Tas'!

>

> i had thought that with 7, she must have the most difficult, stressful

> life of anyone i knew, and it was just the opposite. having 7 was easier

> than having 1 (except for the cooking part!!) because when i had 1, i had

> NO BREAK at all. but she had lots of helpers. she would sleep til 10 am

> every morning!! I'm not kidding! whenever i would call before 10, the

> oldest would answer and say she wasn't up yet! what a riot. good for

> her!

>

> and when i took a few of her kids off her hands i thought i was doing her

> a favor but i wasn't. they had a family 'dynamic' that was upset when

> any of the kids were gone! they all played well together, the whole

> family, and i never saw them fight. and they would miss each other.

> it's like they had their own self-contained little 'tribe' or 'village'.

>

>

>

This is so true. My mom has told me on several occasions that family

life was much easier with 5 kids than it was with 2. I am the oldest of

5 and my mom had much more free time and much less stress than she did

when there was only a couple of us. She regrets to this day that she

didn't have more (Dad wasn't going for it then but I think he too would

do it differently if he could go back in time).

We (the kids) cooked, cleaned, babysit, chauffeured, shopped, you name it.

Once I was old enough to help out the whole dynamic of our family began

to change. My mom got a graduate degree, was involved in the community

as a rape counselor, etc. Her and dad went on trips, went out.

frequently, etc. without any disruption to family life. A lot of people

think you have to save that kind of stuff until the kids are gone. Not

so with a bigger family.

People from small families of two or three kids often don't understand

how wonderful and pleasurable the dynamics of a large family can be.

Done well its like a smooth running little tribe.

You also learn was it means to share, to compromise, and that the world

doesn't necessarily revolve around you, LOL!

There are educational (the older helping the younger) and economic

(multiple incomes, economies of scale) and social (you should see my mom

beam when we all together on holidays or reunions) as well. The only

thing we missed out on was home schooling, which my mom wanted to do but

during my childhood (which was before the homeschooling boom) EVERYONE

thought she was crazy.

The *New* Ten Commandments

http://tinyurl.com/245sr

" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

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we have one son. i didn't give birth til i was 36. kinda late to start

a big family, but i always wanted 4. shoulda started much earlier.

we LOVE being parents of an only child. and he seems to be a very happy

child. he says he doesn't want siblings cuz he goes over his friends'

houses and sees them fighting all the time. i see them too, like at the

pool, and they're nasty and it's awful.

so we are a happy family of three; and that's just the way it is. :-)

People from small families of two or three kids often don't understand

how wonderful and pleasurable the dynamics of a large family can be.

Done well its like a smooth running little tribe.

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,

With your son being very bright, I think you're lucky you only have one. I have

3 ('gifted' and 'highly gifted') and I think the fighting is worse than 'normal'

kids - especially in that they get bored so easily.

Cheers,

Tas'.

Re: large families

we have one son. i didn't give birth til i was 36. kinda late to start

a big family, but i always wanted 4. shoulda started much earlier.

we LOVE being parents of an only child. and he seems to be a very happy

child. he says he doesn't want siblings cuz he goes over his friends'

houses and sees them fighting all the time. i see them too, like at the

pool, and they're nasty and it's awful.

so we are a happy family of three; and that's just the way it is. :-)

People from small families of two or three kids often don't understand

how wonderful and pleasurable the dynamics of a large family can be.

Done well its like a smooth running little tribe.

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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:49:06 -0400

Busse <laurabusse@...> wrote:

> we have one son. i didn't give birth til i was 36. kinda late to start

> a big family, but i always wanted 4. shoulda started much earlier.

Yes 36 is late. On the other hand Geena had her first child at 46

and a set of twins at 48. Helen Hunt has a late child (41), and Mimi

had a child at 49. I know of one family where the mom of 40 and

the daughter of 20 were both pregnant at the same time. These days,

everyone seems to have different time schedules.

> we LOVE being parents of an only child. and he seems to be a very happy

> child. he says he doesn't want siblings cuz he goes over his friends'

> houses and sees them fighting all the time. i see them too, like at the

> pool, and they're nasty and it's awful.

Well thats too bad, but I was responding to your post about a family

with 7 kids who got along just fine and the mother wasn't under a lot of

stress. Hopefully your son will understand that siblings fighting is NOT

related to size.

And I would hope every parent, whether they have one child or ten

children, would love their kids like you love your child.

The *New* Ten Commandments

http://tinyurl.com/245sr

" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

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thanks, michael. :-)

laura

And I would hope every parent, whether they have one child or ten

children, would love their kids like you love your child.

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