Re: hiccups/allergies/gluten

[Guest guest]

>>>i just decided to have a piece of spelt sourdough toast with some raw

cheese on top.

soon after i ate it developed a wicked case of the hiccups.<<<

I get hiccups when I eat something that is too dry. If the toast didn't have

butter (or marg') on it, that would do it for me.

Cheers,

Tas'.

[Guest guest]

Tas', very interesting. even more interesting to me is the fact that you

NOTICED this. I've been having bad hiccup attacks since at least my

20's, but i remember having them growing up and sugar and white flour

were the mainstay of my growing up I'm sad to say. (alcohol came later of

course).

I'll see if i can notice a correlation betw. hiccups and dryness.

laura

I get hiccups when I eat something that is too dry. If the toast didn't

have butter (or marg') on it, that would do it for me.

Cheers,

Tas'.

[Guest guest]

> hi all,

>

> I've given up sugar, alcohol and white flour, 3 things i thought

would be

> impossible.

>

> I'm working on caffeine. have been working on it for years. i

might

> even succeed some day.

>

> 'gluten' has been buzzing in my ears for a long time now; years.

>

> up until and including now, for me it is like 'another thing' to

give up.

>

> pretty soon I'll be living on just lettuce and chicken.

>

hi

I know how you feel. But in order to improve your health with diet,

I would suggest you try to change your mindset, or all you'll see is

deprivation and none of the upsides. The list of what I don't eat is

5 times the length of yours (gluten is on it for a start!). If you

focus on making the food you do it enjoyable, then I can guarantee

you will no longer feel deprived. I LOVE my food! I love cooking

with stock - it makes any dish i cook just amazing. I LOVE organic

free range eggs cooked with loads of butter and served with parma ham

(I can't eat ordinary ham, it's on my list!)

There are MANY more foods out there than just lettuce and chicken.

Both of these are very boring foods and have to be dressed up with

other flavours.

When you remove gluten from your diet, you'll find you have to make

from scratch a lot of foods yourself that you probably once in jars

and packs. These foods will taste 100 times better than the pre-

packed versions, and you'll wonder why you didnt' do this before!

Best of luck

Jo

[Guest guest]

>soon after i ate it developed a wicked case of the hiccups.

>

>is it possible this is a sign i am, de facto, allergic to gluten whether

>it's sourdough or not?

I don't know: I get hiccups from carrots if I don't chew them all

the way ... it seems to have to do with eating too quickly. But

I do have a cure: mix a spoonful of honey with an equal amount

of vinegar, and drink it. Someone I knew used to carry this around

with him in his pocket, he got hiccups so much! Sugar works too, sugar

and vinegar.

>i probably am anyway. i have a weight problem and think that if i could

>just give it up, maybe i could even drink raw milk with getting gas,

>bloating and diarrhea.

Oh, don't " give it up " , just choose not to eat it for a day, or a week.

And don't give up ALL carbs at once. When I was testing if gluten

was a problem for me, I substituted rice crackers for my wheat

crackers, and ate lots of tacos. Tinkyada pasta tastes like wheat

pasta, but isn't. It helps if you can find some good GF bread ...

you can even get sourdough GF bread. Then you aren't

" giving up " bread, you are just eating a different brand. What I

found was that after a binge of starch eating (feeling sorry

for myself) I just lost interest in a lot of starch. I do eat potatoes, but

baked goods started losing their appeal ... too dry and monotonous.

It IS addicting though, in the same way nicotine or opium is.

I had an awful 2 day withdrawal period. For a lot of people,

wheat is a psychoactive drug.

-- Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

> It IS addicting though, in the same way nicotine or opium is.

> I had an awful 2 day withdrawal period. For a lot of people,

> wheat is a psychoactive drug.

Even if it's sourdough or sprouted? This is what I'm trying to

figure out. What negative effects, if any, remains once the

grain/flour is sprouted or made into sourdough. Of course, I'm not

speaking about someone who is allergic to wheat no matter how it's

prepared. Is zonulin still problematic? What about the opioid

and/or dopamine (am I getting that right? I'm starting to get all

the terms mixed up) effects?

I'm trying to figure out if I can still have sprouted or sourdough

breads or if I should just give them up. I fight with depression

(I'm not on medication right now) and have a problem with my teeth

always getting cavities (which I read with interest when you said

that could be a symptom of gluten intolerance) despite my healthy

diet and teeth care.

At this point I'm planning on going back to no grains at all. I did

that at first but found it very difficult after only a few days so I

added sourdough and sprouted bread back into my diet. Now I'm

wondering if I shouldn't have done that with all the talk recently

about zonulin and the mental effects of wheat.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Heidi, i had no idea...gluten addiction sounds serious.

laura

p.s. to get rid of hiccups i always 'drink upside down', accomplished by

drinking from the other side of the glass. works every time.

It IS addicting though, in the same way nicotine or opium is.

I had an awful 2 day withdrawal period. For a lot of people,

wheat is a psychoactive drug.

-- Heidi Jean