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so glad to see a kindred spirit from radiantrecovery.com!

i appreciate so much what you had to say. and i think i am starting to

come to terms with this fat vs. carb thing.

i have never been big on fats but love carbs...

i have always trimmed my meat way down because the meat fat makes me want

to vomit.

i also prefer skim milk!! i prefer the taste.

well...now my work is cut out for me. maybe that's where Atkins comes

in? cut out the carbs entirely, drastically increasing the fats. (but

how? meat fat makes me want to ralph...and butter? without bread???)

lost the weight accordingly and grad. increase carbs til you know what

you can handle.

maybe i should just do it...

thanks, Tas!

laura

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I was following that program for about 18 months or more.

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ya know, i had this trouble too. but i just slowly trimmed less and less of

it - i mean, i started by leaving just the tiniest sliver on the meat. now

i've gotten to where i can really eat almost all of it! only on a really

super-fat-laden piece of meat do i end up leaving any behind, and now that

goes to my baby, who sucks and gums/chews and consumes it happily!

anyway. you'll get there - it's a process!

-katja

At 12:17 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:

>i have always trimmed my meat way down because the meat fat makes me want

>to vomit.

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>> well...now my work is cut out for me. maybe that's where Atkins comes

in? cut out the carbs entirely, drastically increasing the fats. (but

how? meat fat makes me want to ralph...and butter? without bread???) <<

Sour cream. Sauces. CHEESE!!!!! Nuts. Cooking with butter - I saute all my

veggies in butter. Deviled eggs with mayo. Bacon. Cream cheese on celery.

Cream cheese rolled up in thin-sliced meats.

I am going to post what I eat, to give you an idea of how I get all that fat

in there.

I start my day with an omelette with cheese and sour cream, cooked in

butter, with veggies sauteed in butter (mushrooms, green onions, etc), and

sometimes I throw in some cooked chicken breast. I like to roast chickens

but the breast meat is usually too dry for me the next day, so I consider

this a form of recycling. <G> LOTS of sour cream on top, plus bacon or

sausage. Sometimes just bacon and eggs. Cream in my coffee or tea, plus

stevia.

Lunches and dinners, on a " mix and match " basis:

Meats:

Chicken rubbed with olive oil, salt, pepper, and herbs, roasted.

Steak rubbed with olive oil, salt, pepper, and herbs, grilled.

Grilled sausage (various kinds)

Chicken breasts pan-fried with creamy mushroom sauce

Chicken leg meat sauteed with paprika, garlic, and butter

Pork loin chops in a red wine vinegar and garlic sauce. Strong men have wept

eating this one. <G>

Stuffed pork roast, made with asiago cheese and mushrooms, served with a

Dijon sauce

Burgers made with either beef or turkey, all kinds of ways - with cheeses

(feta, asiago, etc), with veggies, with mushrooms.

" Joe's Special, " a dish made with spinach, garlic, salt, pepper, nutmeg,

egg, ground beef, all sauteed together. Fast and good, especially with a

Ceasar Salad on the side.

Fajitas with sour cream, cheese, and salad.

Chicken breasts with skin and bone sauteed with mushrooms, lemon, butter,

olive oil, garlic, salt, pepper, kalamata olives, served with brocolli. The

sauce for this one is DELICIOUS!

The parmesan and egg crusted chicken recipe called " Heroin Chicken Wings, "

that I got from an Atkins list - I don't use wings, I mostly do this one

with whole thighs, with skin and bone.

I often make sauces, including Bernaise sauce (NT recipe), and a creamy

mushroom sauce I make using pan drippings and bacon, delicious! I think

sauces are the source of much of the fat in my diet. I also sometimes put

bacon with a steak or wrap chicken breasts in bacon.

Veggies:

Grated zucchini hash browns with salt, pepper, garlic, onions, and

mushrooms, ALWAYS cooked in butter

Steamed brocolli with salt - sometimes cheesy or creamy sauces, too

Artichokes with mayo

Artichoke hearts (a favorite with Chicken Tarragon Salad from the Whole

Foods takeout deli - this is a meal I can pick up on the road and eat in the

car)

Asparagus prepared in various ways

Creamed spinach

Stuffed mushrooms

Salads I like are:

Greek Salad with feta, tomatoes, and kalamata olives, with an olive oil and

red wine vinegar dressing

Butter lettuce with tomatos and parmesan and Ranch dressing

Ceasar Salads - lots and lots of these! Sometimes with meat (usually grilled

chicken breast, sometimes shrimp) - I make my own dressing with the NT

recipe

Crab salad - fresh crab meat, mayo, chopped green onion, pepper, on a bed of

lettuce and tomatoes

Salad Nicoise - olive oil, Dijon mustard, grated garlic, anchovies, Romaine

lettuce, Nicoise or kalamata olives, tuna packed in oil

" Taco Salad " - ground beef sauteed with onion, salt, pepper, chili powder,

paprika, and tomatos, served with lettuce, grated cheddar, guacamole, sour

cream

" BLT " .... I use two large slices of tomato with lettuce, mayo, and bacon in

between. I usually eat this with a fork. It surprised me at first how good

this is!

Egg salad

Snacks:

Almonds, macademia nuts, strawberries, salami, cheese, cheese, and more

cheese, " crackers " made with cheese, " crackers " made with flax seeds, nut

flour, and guar gum, pate, chopped chicken livers, celery with cream cheese,

DEVILED EGGS!!!! (Note: I have cut out nuts recently, as they seem to

trigger too much craving in me for more. I am fine with nut flours.... but I

will reserve nuts for holidays for now.)

And did I mention cheese? <G>

I drink a lot of tea or decaf coffee with cream. Sometimes I make protein

shakes with whey powder, cream, stevia, cocoa powder, and water.

Hope this helps!

Christie

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....i have never been big on fats but love carbs...

i have always trimmed my meat way down because the meat fat makes me want

to vomit.

i also prefer skim milk!! i prefer the taste.

well...now my work is cut out for me. maybe that's where Atkins comes

in? cut out the carbs entirely, drastically increasing the fats. (but

how? meat fat makes me want to ralph...and butter? without bread???)

lost the weight accordingly and grad. increase carbs til you know what

you can handle.

maybe i should just do it...

Did you learn nothing from Kathleen??? BABY STEPS!!! (grin)

Cheers,

Tas'.

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Hi Tas, you're right, baby steps! i must be returning to my old pre-pnp

self!

it's so good to have someone here who understands.

laura

Did you learn nothing from Kathleen??? BABY STEPS!!! (grin)

Cheers,

Tas'.

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