Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 katja, explain chapter leader list, please. Thanks, Del katja wrote: > hey, suze et al - > > so, now that i'm on the chapter leader list, i was thinking. we should > bottle up some of this mercurial passion we have going on and send it over > to sally. the only thing that seriously bugs me about NT is that she > completely disregards mercury! i think we should really try to influence > that in the next edition/etc... > > so unless someone's already convinced her and i just don't know it, what > can we send over to the wapf chapter leader list? > > -katja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 it's a mailing list for all the WAPF chapter leaders. At 10:27 AM 6/8/2004, you wrote: >katja, explain chapter leader list, please. >Thanks, >Del > >katja wrote: > > hey, suze et al - > > > > so, now that i'm on the chapter leader list, i was thinking. we should > > bottle up some of this mercurial passion we have going on and send >it over > > to sally. the only thing that seriously bugs me about NT is that she > > completely disregards mercury! i think we should really try to >influence > > that in the next edition/etc... > > > > so unless someone's already convinced her and i just don't know it, >what > > can we send over to the wapf chapter leader list? > > > > -katja > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 > mercurator! > > >hey, suze et al - > >so, now that i'm on the chapter leader list, i was thinking. we should >bottle up some of this mercurial passion we have going on and send it over >to sally. the only thing that seriously bugs me about NT is that she >completely disregards mercury! i think we should really try to influence >that in the next edition/etc... I don't think she completely disregards it. In fact, I think her position is that if you have any health issues you should remove your amalgams, but if you don't, don't. She herself had hers removed because she was having problems concentrating. Her problem cleared up after removal. I don't agree with her position about leaving them in if you have no symptoms though, because the damage is often ongoing and cumulative prior to onset of symptoms, so you could have significantly more damage by the time you actually start feeling symptoms. Or you could have a baby and pass on a significant amount via placenta and breast milk before you yourself have any symptoms. > >so unless someone's already convinced her and i just don't know it, what >can we send over to the wapf chapter leader list? I don't know - I guess we can just start talking about it over there. Dave (on that list) is very knowledgeable on this subject and suffers amalgam illness himself, so I think he could contribute quite a bit. If I can eck out some time, I'll try to post some stuff there, or you could, if you have the inclination. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 hmmm. more i was thinking about fish, actually. the amalgam issue hadn't crossed in, since ...i dunno. i don't have any fillings at all, and i was thinking in terms of the book itself, i guess. i just wasn't too sure about how to bring it up, so i thought people here might have suggestions? At 11:43 AM 6/8/2004, you wrote: >I don't think she completely disregards it. In fact, I think her position is >that if you have any health issues you should remove your amalgams, but if >you don't, don't. She herself had hers removed because she was having >problems concentrating. Her problem cleared up after removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 > RE: mercurator! > > >hmmm. more i was thinking about fish, actually. the amalgam issue hadn't >crossed in, since ...i dunno. i don't have any fillings at all, and i was >thinking in terms of the book itself, i guess. Ah, I see. Well, I think something like 80-90% of the American population has amalgams, so that WOULD be relevant to the majority of folks. The exposure from fish is not as much as from amalgams, although I do think it is a concern. Probably less so for a healthy person on an NT diet, though. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 This isn't to do with amalgam fillings, but I was wondering if anyone had any information on the absorption of mercury from cinnabar, an inorganic mercury salt? I know that it has been used as a food colorant, and I have used it as part of a traditional chinese medicine for topical use on unbroken skin. When I originally looked into this, the gist of what I learned was that cinnabar was considered stable, but I could not find any concrete information on the risks of applying it to the skin. I didn't notice anything untoward from using the concoction. I don't have any amalgam fillings, if that makes any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 > Re: mercurator! > > >This isn't to do with amalgam fillings, but I was wondering if anyone >had any information on the absorption of mercury from cinnabar, an >inorganic mercury salt? I recall reading about it somewhere but don't recall what was said. AFAIK, though, it can be absorbed. Also, often mercury is absorbed in one form that may be less toxic than another, but the body converts it to a more toxic form. Here's something off the web about cinnabar mining - I think this is the context that I've read about cinnabar in before. " Mercury poisoning used to be widespread in such industries as mirror making and cinnabar (mercury ore) mining. " http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:ojgQPAKIAT8J:www.mercurysafety.co.uk/hl thinfo.htm+Cinnabar+mercury+absorption & hl=en " In spite of the low solubility of cinnabar, mercury is mobilised and absorbed by plants whether it is derived from natural or anthropogenic sources. " http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:V-KZAIBsgokJ:www.eom.slu.se/icobte/addi tional/SP2pMillan.doc+Cinnabar+mercury+absorption & hl=en " Due to the toxicity of mercury in cinnabar, criminals sentenced to work in quicksilver mines by the Romans had a life expectancy of only 3 years. " http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:iXSa7VYul1gJ:www.ingham.org/hd/lepc/pam phlets/hazwaste/mercuryfacts.html+Cinnabar+mercury+absorption & hl=en Oh, one page just reminded me what else I'd read about cinnabar - it's often used as the red coloring in tattoos. Sadly, I have a tattoo with lots of red in it :-( > >I didn't notice anything untoward from using the concoction. I don't have >any amalgam fillings, if that makes any difference. Well it can take several years or decades for the accumulative effect of chronic mercury poisoning to lead to noticeable symptoms, so I wouldn't go by that. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Thanks for the links. I did some further looking too, and theres very little on cinnabar absorption through unbroken skin. I did find out that small amounts of mercury are sometimes found in cinnabar ore, and that it is not so easy to methylate cinnabar into organic forms without assistance from microbes. Mined cinnabar was smelted at 700-800C to release mercury vapour and then condensed. This is probably what killed people quickly rather than touching cinnabar itself. I'll have to make a new batch of the medicine with a cinnabar substitute, which is too bad, as the old batch has aged for more than two years. Re: mercurator! > > > > > >This isn't to do with amalgam fillings, but I was wondering if anyone > >had any information on the absorption of mercury from cinnabar, an > >inorganic mercury salt? > > I recall reading about it somewhere but don't recall what was said. AFAIK, > though, it can be absorbed. Also, often mercury is absorbed in one form that > may be less toxic than another, but the body converts it to a more toxic > form. Here's something off the web about cinnabar mining - I think this is > the context that I've read about cinnabar in before. > > " Mercury poisoning used to be widespread in such industries as mirror making > and cinnabar (mercury ore) mining. " > http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:ojgQPAKIAT8J:www.mercurysafety.co.uk/hl > thinfo.htm+Cinnabar+mercury+absorption & hl=en > > " In spite of the low solubility of cinnabar, mercury is mobilised and > absorbed by plants whether it is derived from natural or anthropogenic > sources. " > http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:V-KZAIBsgokJ:www.eom.slu.se/icobte/addi > tional/SP2pMillan.doc+Cinnabar+mercury+absorption & hl=en > > " Due to the toxicity of mercury in cinnabar, criminals sentenced to work in > quicksilver mines by the Romans had a life expectancy of only 3 years. " > http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:iXSa7VYul1gJ:www.ingham.org/hd/lepc/pam > phlets/hazwaste/mercuryfacts.html+Cinnabar+mercury+absorption & hl=en > > Oh, one page just reminded me what else I'd read about cinnabar - it's often > used as the red coloring in tattoos. Sadly, I have a tattoo with lots of red > in it :-( > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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