kefiili questions

[Guest guest]

I went to the file section to look up how to make kefiili, but I

don't quite understand the process:(

Here are my questions:

1) When I puchase the grains do I get just the viili, or do I get

something else? If I just purchase the viili won't I end up with

viili, not kefiili? Do I purchase both viili and kefir? I've never

seen kefiili grains. Am I not looking in the right place?

2) In the " How to make Kefiili " section it says to put grains into

jar A. Then I'm to add milk. Step 3 says to put the lid on Jar B to

be eaten later. What is in Jar B? It doesn't say, and I'm thinking

I'm supposed to already know this. Which one am I supposed to eat,

and when? What process am I supposed to repeat every day or two. I'm

assuming that I was supposed to eat one of them.

Please be patient with me. I'm extrememly new to this, but the

Kefiili sounded so good that I want to make this as soon as I figure

out what it is I'm supposed to do

Kara

[Guest guest]

> I went to the file section to look up how to make kefiili, but I

> don't quite understand the process:(

>

> Here are my questions:

> 1) When I puchase the grains do I get just the viili, or do I get

> something else? If I just purchase the viili won't I end up with

> viili, not kefiili? Do I purchase both viili and kefir? I've

never

> seen kefiili grains. Am I not looking in the right place?

>

> 2) In the " How to make Kefiili " section it says to put grains

into

> jar A. Then I'm to add milk. Step 3 says to put the lid on Jar B

to

> be eaten later. What is in Jar B? It doesn't say, and I'm

thinking

> I'm supposed to already know this. Which one am I supposed to

eat,

> and when? What process am I supposed to repeat every day or two.

I'm

> assuming that I was supposed to eat one of them.

>

> Please be patient with me. I'm extrememly new to this, but the

> Kefiili sounded so good that I want to make this as soon as I

figure

> out what it is I'm supposed to do

>

> Kara

Kara,

1. Kefiili grains are plain kefir grains that have been contaminated

with viili bacteria (Leuconostoc m. cremoris). There is no such

thing as viili grains although you can buy viili starter. People

who culture both viili and kefir soon find out how easily kefir

grains accidentally adopt the viili bacteria. Viili bacteria may not

survive highly acidic environments, so if you ferment your kefiili

for a long, long time and it gets extremely tart/sour, then the

viili bacteria might die out and you would have regular kefir grains

again. Viili produces a mild, thick, ropy product that has been

likened to snot or honey in consistency. Real kefir fermented at

room temperature is a thinner drinkable beverage. Kefiili is

probably somewhere in between.

2. You will either have a container currently fermenting with milk

and grains together, or you have a strained container of finished

kefir beverage (with grains removed) ready to drink. Its an ongoing

process like eating a loaf of bread while the next loaf is baking in

the oven.

You can buy viili starter and kefir grains separately. Plenty of

people are willing to share kefir grains, but if you want kefiili

grains you must ask specifically for kefiili grains.

Hope this helps,

Darrell

[Guest guest]

>You can buy viili starter and kefir grains separately. Plenty of

>people are willing to share kefir grains, but if you want kefiili

>grains you must ask specifically for kefiili grains.

>

>Hope this helps,

>Darrell

Or, some of us have " kefiili grains " we can send (I can

if you mail me privately, but I only send them Fedex which

is more pricey ... they have died in the post, I think

our mail gets gamma-rayed sometimes, also they die in

the heat). My kefiili grains are contaminated with viili,

just like Darrell said. GEM Cultures doesn't sell " kefiili

grains " ... just viili and kefir, which you can buy separately

(which is what I did, then they cross-bred ;-)

Thanks, Darrel, for the clarification. I need to make

the writup a little more detailed, I think!

-- Heidi Jean