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Hi,

I need some brainstorming help here.

My kids, ages 5 and 7, are involved in several groups (4-H, Scouts,

etc.). At every meeting they are fed sugary, S.A.D. diet junk. And

we have at least 2 meetings a week, besides church, where they get

more of it.

I just found out that a couple of other families, with whom we are in

several groups, are also into Traditional Nutrition, and a couple

more eat organic and stay away from processed foods. All have been

afraid to say anything. But now that we know we have support in each

other, we decided we would volunteer to bring snacks more than usual,

just so we could keep our kids away from the blechhh!

But what to serve? Making Crispy Nuts for what might be 50 kids is a

bit pricy, and half the kids probably wouldn't eat them! Likewise

raw milk cheese cubes. It has to have some kid appeal, too.

Thanks in advance!

Tracey

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We have that problem, too. So far, we have tried celery and almond

butter, fruit kabobs with cheese, the apricot bars from NT, the

coconut bars from NT, and the ice cream from NT. I can't say

everyone has loved them, but these seemed like good compromises.

Other snacks the kids eat at home are sour dough toast with butter

and raw honey and pickeled cukes.

Sue

> Hi,

>

> I need some brainstorming help here.

>

> My kids, ages 5 and 7, are involved in several groups (4-H,

Scouts,

> etc.). At every meeting they are fed sugary, S.A.D. diet junk.

And

> we have at least 2 meetings a week, besides church, where they get

> more of it.

>

> I just found out that a couple of other families, with whom we are

in

> several groups, are also into Traditional Nutrition, and a couple

> more eat organic and stay away from processed foods. All have

been

> afraid to say anything. But now that we know we have support in

each

> other, we decided we would volunteer to bring snacks more than

usual,

> just so we could keep our kids away from the blechhh!

>

> But what to serve? Making Crispy Nuts for what might be 50 kids

is a

> bit pricy, and half the kids probably wouldn't eat them! Likewise

> raw milk cheese cubes. It has to have some kid appeal, too.

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

> Tracey

>

> Tracey Rollison

> Supervisor

> Usborne Books at Home,

> One of Fortune's Top 100 Small Businesses 2003

> (317)894-7040

> Be Curious!

>

> Your timing is perfect!  Start your home business now for

$49.95, and

> get a jump on vacation money! What could $400 or more a month do

for

> your family? Check out http://www.UsborneBooksUS.com/cat.html for

> details.  Make a difference for kids in a job you can feel great

> about!

> Change a life today--read with a child!

> Many convenient locations near you--couch, fireside, rocking chair

> and lap!

>

>

> Ideas, anyone?

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> Hi,

>

> I need some brainstorming help here.

>

> My kids, ages 5 and 7, are involved in several groups (4-H, Scouts,

> etc.). At every meeting they are fed sugary, S.A.D. diet junk.

And

> we have at least 2 meetings a week, besides church, where they get

> more of it.

i don't have NT book yet but i do have The Maker's Diet and he has

several recipes from the NT book including banana bread, muffins

(with 6 variations) that could be made in those tiny little muffin

pans and trail mix which would all be good choices for kids, imo.

then he lists several of his own recipes that sound yummy and include

coconut almond fudge and zesty popcorn, but i'm not sure if they'r in

line with the NT philosophy or not.

the farther i go into this the less my kids will eat! LOL they do

like sprouted bread with raw almond butter and a fruit spread (just

the fruit and pectin); they like apple slices to dip into a nut

butter; of course they like just about any fruit and the finger-

fruits like grapes and berries are especially easy; carrots and ranch

dressing for dipping; little meatballs made in the oven and put

toothpicks into them afterwards (what kid can resist a toothpick?

hehe).

HTH

vera

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--- In , " starrrwulfiam " >

> i don't have NT book yet but i do have The Maker's Diet and he has

> several recipes from the NT book including banana bread, muffins

> (with 6 variations) that could be made in those tiny little muffin

> pans and trail mix which would all be good choices for kids, imo.

>

> then he lists several of his own recipes that sound yummy and

include

> coconut almond fudge and zesty popcorn, but i'm not sure if they'r

in

> line with the NT philosophy or not.

>

> the farther i go into this the less my kids will eat! LOL they do

> like sprouted bread with raw almond butter and a fruit spread (just

> the fruit and pectin); they like apple slices to dip into a nut

> butter; of course they like just about any fruit and the finger-

> fruits like grapes and berries are especially easy; carrots and

ranch

> dressing for dipping; little meatballs made in the oven and put

> toothpicks into them afterwards (what kid can resist a toothpick?

> hehe).

>

> HTH

> vera

Oh, I didn't think about checking The Maker's Diet! I bought it and

immediately lent it to a friend who has cancer.

I'm having the same thing happen with my kids. They don't like

Ezekial Bread (but love other bread). They don't like soaked oatmeal

(they love instant oatmeal, though). They don't like kefir much (but

love yoghurt). They don't like Kombucha much (but love apple

cider). They won't eat nuts. One child refuses to eat tomatoes,

pickles, or any leafy vegetable. This same child doesn't like cod

liver oil. I really worry about him--at least he will drink his raw

milk! He was 5 when we started switching over to traditional

nutrition. His sister, who was 2.5 then, is much easier.

They love Italian food, but mostly the pasta/pizza variety--they do

like northern Italian-type food. And they both like most vegetables

and fruits and meats.

Sigh...

Tracey

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>But what to serve? Making Crispy Nuts for what might be 50 kids is a

>bit pricy, and half the kids probably wouldn't eat them! Likewise

>raw milk cheese cubes. It has to have some kid appeal, too.

>

>Thanks in advance!

>

>Tracey

Jerky works for most kids. And fruit, at least for mine. They love

whole plums and cherries etc. My daughter tells me the other kids

always try to steal her lunch. Chebe bread is liked by most kids

also.

-- Heidi Jean

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well, the problem apparently seems to be the cost. there's a zillion ideas,

but none of them won't be pricey. the fact of the matter is, real food

costs money. perhaps you could just ask that the groups no longer supply

food - do you really need a snack at a 4-h meeting? how about the parents

get together and agree to feed the kids before they go to the meeting, and

you're done with it. if you know your child will be hungry before you get

home again, take a snack of your own for the car ride.

another alternative, since you mentioned scouts, would be to teach the kids

about it. let all the children learn what cookies do to them. you could

even design an experiment for the kids - let's say they give up grain stuff

for 24 hours or something, or even just sugar, if that's easier, and then

you have a big meeting with big, sugary cookies. bet all the kids will get

super jittery and cranky. ask them to write before they eat the cookies,

and after...ask them to journal about how they're feeling. can they sit

still in a chair? how do they feel an hour later? two hours? the next morning?

if that doesn't work either, you could always do something like celery

sticks with real cream cheese inside; if you make it from good quality

yogurt, it won't cost too much...

-katja

At 10:16 PM 6/23/2004, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I need some brainstorming help here.

>

>My kids, ages 5 and 7, are involved in several groups (4-H, Scouts,

>etc.). At every meeting they are fed sugary, S.A.D. diet junk. And

>we have at least 2 meetings a week, besides church, where they get

>more of it.

>

>I just found out that a couple of other families, with whom we are in

>several groups, are also into Traditional Nutrition, and a couple

>more eat organic and stay away from processed foods. All have been

>afraid to say anything. But now that we know we have support in each

>other, we decided we would volunteer to bring snacks more than usual,

>just so we could keep our kids away from the blechhh!

>

>But what to serve? Making Crispy Nuts for what might be 50 kids is a

>bit pricy, and half the kids probably wouldn't eat them! Likewise

>raw milk cheese cubes. It has to have some kid appeal, too.

>

>Thanks in advance!

>

>Tracey

>

>Tracey Rollison

>Supervisor

>Usborne Books at Home,

>One of Fortune's Top 100 Small Businesses 2003

>(317)894-7040

>Be Curious!

>

>Your timing is perfect! Start your home business now for $49.95, and

>get a jump on vacation money! What could $400 or more a month do for

>your family? Check out http://www.UsborneBooksUS.com/cat.html for

>details. Make a difference for kids in a job you can feel great

>about!

>Change a life today--read with a child!

>Many convenient locations near you--couch, fireside, rocking chair

>and lap!

>

>

>Ideas, anyone?

>

>

>

>

>

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what about pemmican? That sounds like a very boy-scout thing to make. Garden

of Eating has a recipe. I'm busy tracking down some suet to make it myself.

Good time of year what with berries in season. but you're right about this

diet costing the big bucks. It is something i'm really grappling with, esp.

now that i'm going grain-free. Meat and produce are the most expensive

parts!!! I like the idea of just mimicking SAD food with better ingredients,

like pizza and popcorn.

Elaine

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>It is something i'm really grappling with, esp.

>now that i'm going grain-free. Meat and produce are the most expensive

>parts!!! I like the idea of just mimicking SAD food with better ingredients,

>like pizza and popcorn.

>Elaine

Actually our meat budget has become one of the CHEAPER parts

of the diet, which I think was true for our ancestors

too. When you get one big animal a year (some friends of ours

do this by bagging an elk or a few deer, we do it by buying

a big steer) then that feeds a family pretty well for a reasonable

cost. It does take some work and planning (as it did for our

ancestors). We also raised a batch of chickens, which I realize

you can't do in the city, but we got about 100 lbs of chicken

for 50 dollars or so. Our steer cost $1,200 and looks like it will

last over a year, so that is less than $100/mo for good beef. And

we eat a lot of beef.

As for produce, I'm working on growing more of our own. We've gotten

into berries big time, which can be raised fairly easily (the picking

is the labor-intensive part!). Salad greens and collards and kale,

and turnip greens, are awfully easy to grow in huge quantities (with

not a lot of garden space) and have a lot of nutrients. In Seattle,

you can pick free-range blackberries from all kinds of spots, free.

You can also buy direct from the farmer pretty cheap.

However, if you think in terms of buying from a supermarket, you

are absolutely correct. Good beef is outrageous (so is bad beef,

at the moment). " Organic produce " is really outrageous. The tribal

folks that WAPF used as models just didn't have supermarkets.

-- Heidi Jean

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I buy meat and eggs direct from the farmer and meat is averaging $5 or more

a pound, eggs $3.50 a dozen. I just signed up for organic delivery as we eat

so much (and shopping with young children is so nightmarish). That is about

$45 a week and still doesn't stretch. I will have to look more into buying

a cow. Problem is we have a small, tall freezer and can't accommodate a

chest freezer since we chose to live in the environmentally more correct

model of cohousing. Lack of storage space is the biggest drawback (and

design flaw?) of cohousing as buying in bulk is cheaper and more

environmentally correct, but there's nowhere to put the stuff!!! I'll have

to put on my thinking cap.

Elaine

> Actually our meat budget has become one of the CHEAPER parts

> of the diet, which I think was true for our ancestors

> too. When you get one big animal a year (some friends of ours

> do this by bagging an elk or a few deer, we do it by buying

> a big steer) then that feeds a family pretty well for a reasonable

> cost.

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oh come on elaine! you can too have a chest freezer. try real goods - they

have a huge section of environmentally friendly appliances for solar

systems, off-the-grid systems, propane systems - everything. try healthy

home too, they have several options as well, though i'm trying to remember

if they only have washers and refrigerators. or you could go crazy and

smoke it old skool. salt it down in barrels is also an option. laura

ingalls has recipes for doing this.

and for my two cents, i don't think that lack of storage space for bulk

food items is inherent in cohousing. it may be inherent in the design of

*your* situation, but it's not part and parcel.

besides, if you're trying to be environmentally more correct, then you

don't have as many clothes as the typical american. if you need creative

bulk storage space, you could use a bedroom closet, convert the linen

closet, use a dresser, use an extra bookshelf...

-katja

At 11:17 AM 6/25/2004, you wrote:

>I buy meat and eggs direct from the farmer and meat is averaging $5 or more

>a pound, eggs $3.50 a dozen. I just signed up for organic delivery as we eat

>so much (and shopping with young children is so nightmarish). That is about

>$45 a week and still doesn't stretch. I will have to look more into buying

>a cow. Problem is we have a small, tall freezer and can't accommodate a

>chest freezer since we chose to live in the environmentally more correct

>model of cohousing. Lack of storage space is the biggest drawback (and

>design flaw?) of cohousing as buying in bulk is cheaper and more

>environmentally correct, but there's nowhere to put the stuff!!! I'll have

>to put on my thinking cap.

>Elaine

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.... I will have to look more into buying

a cow. Problem is we have a small, tall freezer and can't accommodate a

chest freezer since we chose to live in the environmentally more correct

model of cohousing. Lack of storage space is the biggest drawback...

Can you find someone else to go 1/2's (or 1/4's) with?

Cheers,

Tas'.

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