Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 I'm having periods when I feel like I'm getting the flu (achey body, headaches) and my acne is out of control (yukky cystic type). I haven't had acne this bad in many years. Usually I have only a pimple here and there. Now my face is a battlezone. Is this is the Herxheimer Reaction that some of you mentioned? Yes, it most certainly sounds like it. Keep cleansing and getting rid of the stuff--I found that fasting made all my zits go away. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 It very well can be. My reactions got my joints because of my arthritis. The reaction is pretty much different for everyone. DaleDa_@... Herxheimer Reaction? I'm having periods when I feel like I'm getting the flu (achey body, headaches) and my acne is out of control (yukky cystic type). I haven't had acne this bad in many years. Usually I have only a pimple here and there. Now my face is a battlezone. Is this is the Herxheimer Reaction that some of you mentioned? S+13Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 In a message dated 08/15/2000 7:06:31 PM Central Daylight Time, faussettdp@... writes: << I'm having periods when I feel like I'm getting the flu (achey body, headaches) and my acne is out of control (yukky cystic type). I haven't had acne this bad in many years. Usually I have only a pimple here and there. Now my face is a battlezone. Is this is the Herxheimer Reaction that some of you mentioned? >> _____________ Lots of water and coffee enemas will help!! ej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 what is the Herxhemier reaction? Julee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Herxheimer also called healing crisis can produce any number of symtpoms, including fevers, flu-like symptoms, extreme fatigue, irritability, depression, skin rashes, sweats, stomach and intestinal distress, and so on. Toxins may leave the body excessively through the mucus (nose, throat), bowels, kidneys, perspiration. You can feel pretty bad. It can last from a day to a week or so, depending. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Julee; The Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction occurs when there is a die-off of organisms from either natural health or use of antibiotics. When the organisms die they release toxins that overload the body's cleanup capacity and because of this there may be any number of things that can happen. People, like myself, that have arthritis may experience increased pain in the joint for a couple of days while the blood, liver, and colon work at getting out the toxins. DaleDa_@... Re: Herxheimer Reaction? what is the Herxhemier reaction?JuleeSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 This site says it even better. http://www.nutriteam.com/herx.htm Re: Herxheimer Reaction? what is the Herxhemier reaction?JuleeSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 Hi, I'm wondering if you have any known " active " infections? For example HHV6, CMV, mycoplasma etc? I had what I thought was a herxheimer reaction to transfer factor/and or Immunovir and/or ImmunePro a few years ago. I had a severe reaction, aching/burning in my bones and muscles, vertigo, low blood pressure and I couldn't walk my legs got so weak/stiff. So my solution was to stop taking this stuff. It's taken quite a few years to get back to base. Your taking taking quite a few treatments at once so it's difficult to tell what is doing what. Nat > Does anyone have thoughts on what might cause swollen lymph nodes > (partic in the neck), brain fog, greater than usual fatigue, sore > throat and a fluey feeling in response to each of the following > therapies - fBGF Thymus, transfer factor (540,560 and a couple of > others)/colostrum, MSM, Isoprinosine, Olive Leaf Extract, Larrea > tridentata extract (Chaparral)? Vitamin C, 10,000mcg/ml > hydroxycobalamin and glutathione/ATP shots all ameliorate the > reaction a little but not very much. > > Are there any possibilities as to possible causes to explore beyond a > Herxheimer reaction? Supposing it is Herxheimer, what remedies work > apart from the whole lemon/olive oil drink? > > > Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 Unfortunately, when my lymph nodes swell and my throat gets very sore, it is from over-exertion / relapse. While I've had Herx reactions before, the symptoms were never as bad as from over exertion. The best treatment for me has been additional rest and increased dosage of colostrum (from 2 to 4 pills daily), NAC (from 0 to 2 pills daily) and glutathione IVs. Al C. -- On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 15:35:44 Netizen2K wrote: >Does anyone have thoughts on what might cause swollen lymph nodes >(partic in the neck), brain fog, greater than usual fatigue, sore >throat and a fluey feeling in response to each of the following >therapies - fBGF Thymus, transfer factor (540,560 and a couple of >others)/colostrum, MSM, Isoprinosine, Olive Leaf Extract, Larrea >tridentata extract (Chaparral)? Vitamin C, 10,000mcg/ml >hydroxycobalamin and glutathione/ATP shots all ameliorate the >reaction a little but not very much. > >Are there any possibilities as to possible causes to explore beyond a >Herxheimer reaction? Supposing it is Herxheimer, what remedies work >apart from the whole lemon/olive oil drink? > __________________________________________________________ Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get 25MB Storage, POP3 Access, Advanced Spam protection with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 no known active infections though usual pattern of elevated ebv antibodies. and these reactions are to each of the therapies below when tried individually. not as a cocktail. thanks. > Hi, > > I'm wondering if you have any known " active " infections? For example > HHV6, CMV, mycoplasma etc? > I had what I thought was a herxheimer reaction to transfer factor/and > or Immunovir and/or ImmunePro a few years ago. I had a severe > reaction, aching/burning in my bones and muscles, vertigo, low blood > pressure and I couldn't walk my legs got so weak/stiff. So my > solution was to stop taking this stuff. It's taken quite a few years > to get back to base. > > Your taking taking quite a few treatments at once so it's difficult > to tell what is doing what. > > Nat > > > Does anyone have thoughts on what might cause swollen lymph nodes > > (partic in the neck), brain fog, greater than usual fatigue, sore > > throat and a fluey feeling in response to each of the following > > therapies - fBGF Thymus, transfer factor (540,560 and a couple of > > others)/colostrum, MSM, Isoprinosine, Olive Leaf Extract, Larrea > > tridentata extract (Chaparral)? Vitamin C, 10,000mcg/ml > > hydroxycobalamin and glutathione/ATP shots all ameliorate the > > reaction a little but not very much. > > > > Are there any possibilities as to possible causes to explore beyond > a > > Herxheimer reaction? Supposing it is Herxheimer, what remedies > work > > apart from the whole lemon/olive oil drink? > > > > > > Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 My suggestion would be to have a CFS Panel done. Maybe PCR testing to see if you have any " active " infections, including h.pylori, which is probably one of the culprits in my case. Nat > no known active infections though usual pattern of elevated ebv > antibodies. and these reactions are to each of the therapies below > when tried individually. not as a cocktail. > > thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 Dear Netizen2K, I sure sounds like a Herxheimer reaction to me. All the things you mentioned have the capability of boosting the immune system. Have you considered trying activated charcoal, say a few grams at a time? Perhaps there are some toxins being released that you could bind with activated charcoal so that they would not be reabsorbed back to the liver. This is just a guess. Please consult with your doctor before deciding to try this. Rich > > Hi, > > > > I'm wondering if you have any known " active " infections? For > example > > HHV6, CMV, mycoplasma etc? > > I had what I thought was a herxheimer reaction to transfer > factor/and > > or Immunovir and/or ImmunePro a few years ago. I had a severe > > reaction, aching/burning in my bones and muscles, vertigo, low > blood > > pressure and I couldn't walk my legs got so weak/stiff. So my > > solution was to stop taking this stuff. It's taken quite a few > years > > to get back to base. > > > > Your taking taking quite a few treatments at once so it's difficult > > to tell what is doing what. > > > > Nat > > > > > Does anyone have thoughts on what might cause swollen lymph nodes > > > (partic in the neck), brain fog, greater than usual fatigue, sore > > > throat and a fluey feeling in response to each of the following > > > therapies - fBGF Thymus, transfer factor (540,560 and a couple of > > > others)/colostrum, MSM, Isoprinosine, Olive Leaf Extract, Larrea > > > tridentata extract (Chaparral)? Vitamin C, 10,000mcg/ml > > > hydroxycobalamin and glutathione/ATP shots all ameliorate the > > > reaction a little but not very much. > > > > > > Are there any possibilities as to possible causes to explore > beyond > > a > > > Herxheimer reaction? Supposing it is Herxheimer, what remedies > > work > > > apart from the whole lemon/olive oil drink? > > > > > > > > > Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 Sorry, the first word in my last message was supposed to be " It " rather than " I. " Rich > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm wondering if you have any known " active " infections? For > > example > > > HHV6, CMV, mycoplasma etc? > > > I had what I thought was a herxheimer reaction to transfer > > factor/and > > > or Immunovir and/or ImmunePro a few years ago. I had a severe > > > reaction, aching/burning in my bones and muscles, vertigo, low > > blood > > > pressure and I couldn't walk my legs got so weak/stiff. So my > > > solution was to stop taking this stuff. It's taken quite a few > > years > > > to get back to base. > > > > > > Your taking taking quite a few treatments at once so it's > difficult > > > to tell what is doing what. > > > > > > Nat > > > > > > > Does anyone have thoughts on what might cause swollen lymph > nodes > > > > (partic in the neck), brain fog, greater than usual fatigue, > sore > > > > throat and a fluey feeling in response to each of the following > > > > therapies - fBGF Thymus, transfer factor (540,560 and a couple > of > > > > others)/colostrum, MSM, Isoprinosine, Olive Leaf Extract, > Larrea > > > > tridentata extract (Chaparral)? Vitamin C, 10,000mcg/ml > > > > hydroxycobalamin and glutathione/ATP shots all ameliorate the > > > > reaction a little but not very much. > > > > > > > > Are there any possibilities as to possible causes to explore > > beyond > > > a > > > > Herxheimer reaction? Supposing it is Herxheimer, what remedies > > > work > > > > apart from the whole lemon/olive oil drink? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 I started making both kefir and beet kvass a couple of weeks ago. I had to leave on a trip and was gone 5 days, taking the kefir (sans grains) with me. I had one small, about 4 oz., glass of the kvass the evening I was supposed to leave. I started sneezing and couldn't stop, and also had a sore throat. I couldn't sleep that night and had to leave at 4 a.m. anyhow; I drove (and met a carpool) until 6:30 that evening. By that time I was miserably tired and felt awful. For the next three days, at the convention center, I was very clogged up, but the sore throat was gone. I drank kefir every morning for breakfast. Then I returned home, taking a full day, still clogged up. The day I returned, I drank some more kvass, about 2 oz. this time. Within a day I was sniffling with a sore throat again and ran a slight fever. Two days later I was given a gallon of kombucha with two two scobys in it; the kombucha seemed to ease my lungs. I gradually increased to drinking about 8 oz a day. I'm still a bit clogged up. I'm afraid to try the kvass again. I'm pregnant, and in the past I had horrible allergies and asthma (since drinking raw milk haven't had a problem). Could this be a Herxheimer reaction, since my allergies are my body's weak point? Or did I just overdo it and catch a cold that turned on the allergies again? Thanks for your insights, Tracey Tracey Rollison Supervisor Usborne Books at Home, One of Fortune's Top 100 Small Businesses 2003 (317)894-7040 Be Curious! Your timing is perfect! Start your home business now for $49.95, and get a jump on vacation money! What could $400 or more a month do for your family? Check out http://www.UsborneBooksUS.com/cat.html for details. Make a difference for kids in a job you can feel great about! Change a life today--read with a child! Many convenient locations near you--couch, fireside, rocking chair and lap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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