Re: Fibroids

[Guest guest]

Dear & Marta,

Thanks for sharing experiences.

, did the hyst solve the problem? No fibroids in other areas?

Marta, before you agree to hyst, take a minute to check this site... My

" gut " tells me this is one of the best " finds " yet (for me) on the net.

Yes, I believe fibroids are caused by a virus - so is cancer! (Don't mean to

frighten anyone here - but this is not new info.) Researchers proved this in

the early 1900s. Although I'm not a medical person, I feel that perhaps this

is why so many lymies have abnormal paps & so many people & pets with lyme do

eventually develop cancer - besides the unbelieveable lowering of the immune

system.

<A HREF= " http://www.excel.net/~jaguar/pplo.html " >Mycoplasma Involvement in

Cancer + AIDS</A>

Hope this helps!

Blessings & velcros,

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi Marta,

Yes - it's recommending rife ray for mycoplasms, cancer, aids & I believe it

talks about lyme too.

I do have frequencies for fibroids if you're interested (no interest, other

than helping with what I've learned). Incidentally, the frequencies for this

are the same as for the cancer organisms Rife (and many others) isolated.

Blessings & velcros,

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it. I go for the endometrial

biopsy today, although I act like it is no big deal to family and friends

(other than my Lyme friends) I guess I am nervous as I have been up since

2AM, little sleep I got seemed to be all disturbing dreams. I have always

had bad cramps (except when pregnant, then on the pill afterward, so it is

pretty much a way of life for me. Prior to LD, I had three D & C's and that

never worked, so I guess I cannot attribute this to LD. As a matter of

fact, while working I was missing so much work each month due to the heavy

bleeding and cramps that I opted to have a hysterectomy, I was scheduled for

surgery Sept 96, but canceled as I was so sick with LD & HME, my bite was

8/96. I was unable to work since 10/96, and disabled since then, so since I

was missing work anyway, the hysterectomy seemed unnecessary. Eventually my

herxing began to coincide with my period, I felt lousy anyway. I put off

seeing the gyn for two years, finally my Lyme doc insisted I go, so the

result of my exam brought me to this biopsy after ultrasound was done. I am

glad that the surgery was easy for you, but I just am a chicken and hope it

doesn't come to that. Glad you don't have to take HRT, I have too many risk

factors to do that....I never thought I would be longing for

Menopause....LOL!

Hugs,

Marta

> From: BBHMM@...

>

> In a message dated 1/26/00 12:06:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> lyme-aidonelist writes:

> Subject: Re: Fibroid tumors / lyme

> >>

>

> Hi Marta &

> I had to have a hysterectomy last year because of excessive uterine

> bleeding ( every two weeks for a 1 & 1/2 yrs.) They tried everything to stop

> it, but nothing worked. It all started after the birth of my third child.

> After the birth of my 2nd child I had problem w/bleeding, too, plus severe

> cervical dysplasia. After two surgeries things were resolved that time.

This

> past time before the hyst, they couldn't find any reason for the bleeding,

> but after I was dx with Lyme in late May of 99 I read that Lyme can cause

> abnormal uterine bleeding. Since it can cause problems with bleeding I

don't

> know why it couldn't cause other " female " problems. Fibroids, cysts and the

> like are believed to be caused by viruses that cause a change in our

hormone

> levels, which inturn can cause a whole slew of problems.....even cancer.

> Marta, I hope that you won't have to have a hyst., but I personally am so

> glad that I had it.....No more feminine products (at least until my

daughters

> start), no more cramps, etc.... I kept my overies, so I don't even have to

> deal with HRT's ( depending on your age, you may not have to have your

> overies out either, but if you are close to menopause they sometimes

> recommend it).

> Sorry guys about all the details....It could have been worse...lol !!!

>

> Your Lyme Friend,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Tried to read the web site, but Lyme brain and lack of medical

knowledge prevent me from getting the point. I do see Rife mentioned so I

am assuming that it is recommending that type treatment for Cancer and AIDS

and Mycoplasma???? Sorry to be so dense, but I really am having a

concentration problem reading of late, scaring me, as I love to read, and

find myself reading the same paragraphs over and over and not understanding

what I read.....oh well, PET SCAN will show if something is wrong there I

guess, I go on Feb 5.

Hugs,

Marta

> From: DobeLovr1@...

>

> Dear & Marta,

>

> Thanks for sharing experiences.

>

> , did the hyst solve the problem? No fibroids in other areas?

>

> Marta, before you agree to hyst, take a minute to check this site... My

> " gut " tells me this is one of the best " finds " yet (for me) on the net.

>

> Yes, I believe fibroids are caused by a virus - so is cancer! (Don't mean

to

> frighten anyone here - but this is not new info.) Researchers proved this

in

> the early 1900s. Although I'm not a medical person, I feel that perhaps

this

> is why so many lymies have abnormal paps & so many people & pets with lyme

do

> eventually develop cancer - besides the unbelieveable lowering of the

immune

> system.

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.excel.net/~jaguar/pplo.html " >Mycoplasma Involvement

in

> Cancer + AIDS</A>

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> Blessings & velcros,

>

> Chris

[Guest guest]

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:10:56 -0500

From: " Teddy e " <ted@...>

Subject: Re: Fibroids

Hi all,

Does anyone of any product that will make fibroids shrink or go away?

-- TRY JULIA CHANG'S WEB-SITE FOR HER PRODUCTS - THAT WILL HELP YOU.

http://www.sensiblehealth.com

P.S.---- CALL HER IN TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA --- TO HAVE HER

CONSULTATION --- AFTER YOU READ HER WEB-SITE --- ABOUT

HER VIEW -- ON FIBROIDS.

AND -- YES -- I HAVE USED HER PRODUCTS, MYSELF, VIZ. - HER

LIVER AND GALLSTONE HERBS, WITH MUCH SUCCESS.

- Namaste' - Bill Chilton

I am

talking about fibroids the size of lemons or oranges.

Thanks.

Ted

[Guest guest]

how do you *feel*?

if i were you, and it didn't cause me pain, i'd just not worry about it.

eat well. take CLO. drink high quality herbal teas. get enough rest. that's

what i'd do!

it sounds to me that you have a gut feeling about this already - what does

it say?

-katja

At 01:49 PM 6/25/2004, you wrote:

>Hi,

>I have a question. I have just been told that I have a couple of

>small fibroids, which have caused occasional heavy bleeding. Is

>there a NT way of treating them? My N.D. wants me to see a

>gynecologist for a biopsy -- is this necessary, since I read on the

>web that the chances of cancer in fibroids is less than .5%? I've

>been put on iron supplements -- would it be better to just eat a lot

>of liver? BTW, I am 51, so I'm guessing that I will go through

>menopause pretty soon, which most likely shrink them, according to

>what I've read. I'm scared to go to this gynecologist, that he might

>push me to have some kind of surgery or HRT.

>Any experience with this? I'd appreciate any experiences you'd be

>willing to share.

>Thanks,

>Ann

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> if i were you, and it didn't cause me pain, i'd just not worry about

> it.

> eat well. take CLO. drink high quality herbal teas. get enough rest.

> that's

> what i'd do!

Me too. My fibroids seem to have resolved themselves by getting

pregnant, strangely. Rather a big step, but hey, it worked for me!

Lynn S.

------

Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

http://www.siprelle.com/

http://www.thenewhomemaker.com/

http://www.democracyfororegon.com/

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. You're right, I have a gut

feeling to do exactly what you suggest! I had hoped that a

naturopath would not recommend unnecessary procedures, but I really

don't want a biopsy done if the risk of cancer is so low -- it is an

invasive procedure. But it's hard to hold out in the face of doctors

telling you all kinds of terrible things will happen if you don't do

what they say.

Ann

> >Hi,

> >I have a question. I have just been told that I have a couple of

> >small fibroids, which have caused occasional heavy bleeding. Is

> >there a NT way of treating them? My N.D. wants me to see a

> >gynecologist for a biopsy -- is this necessary, since I read on the

> >web that the chances of cancer in fibroids is less than .5%? I've

> >been put on iron supplements -- would it be better to just eat a

lot

> >of liver? BTW, I am 51, so I'm guessing that I will go through

> >menopause pretty soon, which most likely shrink them, according to

> >what I've read. I'm scared to go to this gynecologist, that he

might

> >push me to have some kind of surgery or HRT.

> >Any experience with this? I'd appreciate any experiences you'd be

> >willing to share.

> >Thanks,

> >Ann

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

boy, i hear you. and i'm not a doctor, i'm just a practitioner, so i can't

cheer you up by giving you " doctor's advice " . but i'll tell ya, if you need

something to remind you that doctors are not the gods society makes them

out to be, read this article on stephen byrnes' site about how his doctors

treated him. you don't even have to read the whole article, just skip down

to the conversation he has with the doctor (it's written like a script,

you'll see it right off) - that will put the wind in your sails!

http://www.powerhealth.net/archives/1May2004.htm

-katja

At 02:14 PM 6/25/2004, you wrote:

>Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. You're right, I have a gut

>feeling to do exactly what you suggest! I had hoped that a

>naturopath would not recommend unnecessary procedures, but I really

>don't want a biopsy done if the risk of cancer is so low -- it is an

>invasive procedure. But it's hard to hold out in the face of doctors

>telling you all kinds of terrible things will happen if you don't do

>what they say.

>

>Ann

>

>

> > >Hi,

> > >I have a question. I have just been told that I have a couple of

> > >small fibroids, which have caused occasional heavy bleeding. Is

> > >there a NT way of treating them? My N.D. wants me to see a

> > >gynecologist for a biopsy -- is this necessary, since I read on the

> > >web that the chances of cancer in fibroids is less than .5%? I've

> > >been put on iron supplements -- would it be better to just eat a

>lot

> > >of liver? BTW, I am 51, so I'm guessing that I will go through

> > >menopause pretty soon, which most likely shrink them, according to

> > >what I've read. I'm scared to go to this gynecologist, that he

>might

> > >push me to have some kind of surgery or HRT.

> > >Any experience with this? I'd appreciate any experiences you'd be

> > >willing to share.

> > >Thanks,

> > >Ann

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

At 51, I don't think I'll choose that particular treatment!

Ann

--- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...>

wrote:

> > if i were you, and it didn't cause me pain, i'd just not worry

about

> > it.

> > eat well. take CLO. drink high quality herbal teas. get enough

rest.

> > that's

> > what i'd do!

>

> Me too. My fibroids seem to have resolved themselves by getting

> pregnant, strangely. Rather a big step, but hey, it worked for me!

>

> Lynn S.

>

> ------

> Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

> http://www.siprelle.com/

> http://www.thenewhomemaker.com/

> http://www.democracyfororegon.com/

[Guest guest]

I was diagnosed with a uterine fibroid (one growing on the inside of my

uterus) one year ago. It is gone. Not a trace of it left.

I eat pretty strict (no grain/dairy/sugars) except for occasional cheats (non

gluten grains and on occasion raw goat dairy) have weekly acupuncture and use

Chinese herbs three weeks out of the month. I also use Garden Of Life RM10 as

well as Primal Defense. I also did a lot of soul searching to

get to the root energetic cause and worked on that level as well.

Good luck to you.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

It was discovered that I have fibroids during my C-section 8 years

ago. They shrank by the time I had another ultrasound 6 months later.

Since then, I didn't feel like I had any particular problems with

them. However, my periods did get longer, heavier, and closer

together.

About 2 years ago I started avoiding soy. That made my periods

lighter, shorter, and farther apart. It also stopped PMS.

About 15 months ago I started taking cod liver oil. That stopped the

flooding incidents. I take 1 tablespoon in the morning.

So if I were you, I would try avoiding soy (read those ingredient

lists!!), and start taking cod liver oil. I would only consider

surgery if I had tried everything else and was totally anemic, going

downhill, etc.

I'm 48. Like you, I figure menopause is right around the corner, and

they will likely shrink when that happens. In the meantime, I can't

tell that they are giving me any serious problems at all.

--- In , " annbekins " <annbekins@y...>

wrote:

> Hi,

> I have a question. I have just been told that I have a couple of

> small fibroids, which have caused occasional heavy bleeding. Is

> there a NT way of treating them? My N.D. wants me to see a

> gynecologist for a biopsy -- is this necessary, since I read on the

> web that the chances of cancer in fibroids is less than .5%? I've

> been put on iron supplements -- would it be better to just eat a

lot

> of liver? BTW, I am 51, so I'm guessing that I will go through

> menopause pretty soon, which most likely shrink them, according to

> what I've read. I'm scared to go to this gynecologist, that he

might

> push me to have some kind of surgery or HRT.

> Any experience with this? I'd appreciate any experiences you'd be

> willing to share.

> Thanks,

> Ann

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

I had fibroids removed with a myomectomey when I was 45. Now I'm 50.

They were too large to leave alone and growing fast. But at the time

the alternative doctor I used treated me with a soy supplement so I'm

sure that contributed to their rapid growth.

Since then my periods remained short and sweet until recently

.....they're slowly have been getting heavier. Not anything like what I

was dealing with when I had the fibroids but enough that I suspect

they're back. At this point I won't do a thing as I'm too close to

menopause to worry about them.

If you're interested here is a very comprehensive site on fibroids.

http://www.uterinefibroids.com/

This is also a very good article:

http://westonaprice.org/women/menorrhagia.html

Lynn

--- In , " annbekins " <annbekins@y...>

wrote:

> Hi,

> I have a question. I have just been told that I have a couple of

> small fibroids, which have caused occasional heavy bleeding. Is

> there a NT way of treating them? My N.D. wants me to see a

> gynecologist for a biopsy -- is this necessary, since I read on the

> web that the chances of cancer in fibroids is less than .5%? I've

> been put on iron supplements -- would it be better to just eat a lot

> of liver? BTW, I am 51, so I'm guessing that I will go through

> menopause pretty soon, which most likely shrink them, according to

> what I've read. I'm scared to go to this gynecologist, that he might

> push me to have some kind of surgery or HRT.

> Any experience with this? I'd appreciate any experiences you'd be

> willing to share.

> Thanks,

> Ann

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Thank you so much for the link to the uterine fibroids website -- it

was very helpful!

Thanks to everyone who answered -- I am taking the iron and

some other herbal supplements my ND prescribed, plus I have

doubled my cod liver oil intake. I talked to my ND again, and

agreed to have a biopsy to be sure a thickened part of the uterus

is not cancerous (very unlikely, but might as well rule it out), and I

am confident after talking with her that whatever the gynecologist

might recommend, my ND will support me in finding alternative

solutions -- I am planning on a combination of " Continuing To

Eat in NT Fashion " , plus " Ignoring It And Waiting For

Menopause. "

Ann

> Hi Ann,

> I had fibroids removed with a myomectomey when I was 45.

Now I'm 50.

> They were too large to leave alone and growing fast. But at the

time

> the alternative doctor I used treated me with a soy supplement

so I'm

> sure that contributed to their rapid growth.

>

> Since then my periods remained short and sweet until recently

> ....they're slowly have been getting heavier. Not anything like

what I

> was dealing with when I had the fibroids but enough that I

suspect

> they're back. At this point I won't do a thing as I'm too close to

> menopause to worry about them.

>

> If you're interested here is a very comprehensive site on

fibroids.

> http://www.uterinefibroids.com/

>

> This is also a very good article:

> http://westonaprice.org/women/menorrhagia.html

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Elyse wrote:

>

> Bee,

> Are fibroids caused by candida? Is there a way to treat or shrink

> them them along with this program?

==>Yes, fibroids can be caused by candida, and it is very common in

people who are malnourished eating the Standard Diet recommended by our

government nowadays! The body will heal and shrink them as it sees

fit, along with other healing that needs to take place. But you could

do what this woman did, i.e. take megadoses of your cod liver oil

and/or vitamin A and also I would advise taking 2 extra vitamin C

tablets per day (for the bioflavonoids in it):

http://www.westonaprice.org/women/menorrhagia.html

Bee