endocrine disruptors in breast milk +nursing 2 years

[Guest guest]

I wanted to post this as I was the one that mentioned it a few weeks

ago in some thread. LOL...can't remember what the heck it was.

Endocrine disruptors by the way are in pesticides, dixon, pcp's,

plastics and quite a few other stuff. They accumulate in fatty tissues

esp. breast tissue and get nto milk. They can act like hormones in the

body in ways they shouldn't.

Anyhow, this past weekend I had the opportunity to talk to a nutrition

PhD researcher at CDC who just happened to have an interest in this

very thing. He said yes, it's a big problem, the effects of which we

really can't study accurately as they do different things at different

times during our developement...especially for girls during puberty.

But that aside from all his research on nursing babies, he felt the

benefits still outwieghed the potential risks. He said babies really

need to be nursed through the first 2 years to totally develop their

immune and other systems.

He also was big time against regular milk for babies. I asked about

raw cow or goat and he said he'd never looked for data on that so he

wasn't sure, but his guess was no.

That's all I know!

Lynn

[Guest guest]

wow, that's super interesting, lynn. i'd love to see his data. think

your friend would mind sharing his specific findings?

and when you say against regular milk for babies, do you mean prior

to one year of age or even longer? and is that dairy in any form or

just milk?

btw, i like his stance on extended breastfeeding. right on!

erica z

> I wanted to post this as I was the one that mentioned it a few

weeks

> ago in some thread. LOL...can't remember what the heck it was.

>

> Endocrine disruptors by the way are in pesticides, dixon, pcp's,

> plastics and quite a few other stuff. They accumulate in fatty

tissues

> esp. breast tissue and get nto milk. They can act like hormones in

the

> body in ways they shouldn't.

>

> Anyhow, this past weekend I had the opportunity to talk to a

nutrition

> PhD researcher at CDC who just happened to have an interest in this

> very thing. He said yes, it's a big problem, the effects of which

we

> really can't study accurately as they do different things at

different

> times during our developement...especially for girls during

puberty.

> But that aside from all his research on nursing babies, he felt the

> benefits still outwieghed the potential risks. He said babies

really

> need to be nursed through the first 2 years to totally develop

their

> immune and other systems.

>

> He also was big time against regular milk for babies. I asked about

> raw cow or goat and he said he'd never looked for data on that so

he

> wasn't sure, but his guess was no.

>

> That's all I know!

> Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hi Ercia,

Hope this might help a bit more

> your friend would mind sharing his specific findings?

----> I don't know him well at all. He was a speaker at a food

conference I attended last weekend. Afterwards we were sitting

around talking about fats and got into endocrine disruptors causing

girl's early development. I asked the question about breast milk and

he said the endocrine disruptors are a hugh problem but felt still

all said and done, breast feeding was better.

He's got my phone number as he wants to hook up with more Atlanta

alternative food people so if I hear from him again I'll ask for

more.

> and when you say against regular milk for babies, do you mean

prior

> to one year of age or even longer? and is that dairy in any form

or

> just milk?

-----> Don't know the answers to any of that. Remember he didn't

know the answer to " raw " dairy and babies. He thought his research

looked only at pasturized. He was not a big dairy fan however...from

his lecture I would guess he leaned heavily towards lowering animal

fat diets.

> btw, i like his stance on extended breastfeeding. right on!

----> The problem isn't that extended breastfeeding isn't the best

way to go. I think the problem is at what price. As he said no one

really knows the answer to this yet ..that generation is young or

being raised now. It's very complicated as the hormone load in one

child may not have the same effect as in another due to thier

exposures later on and the timing of those exposure. With young

girls the hormone loads of puberty make them especially vunerable.

Younger women and vegetarians will have far fewer disruptors in

thier bodies than those who have consumed more animal fats. It's all

a trade-off in these times.

This is from " Hormone Deception " ; " Tests of mother's milk have shown

it can contain higher levels of contaminants than are permitted in

cow's milk sold in gracery stores " . I guess the ideal would be if

each woman could get tested for her levels, then try to detox as

much as possible out before getting pregnant. And work with an

educated doctor to determine her the best course for her baby based

on what she can't detox out. I don't know.

If this is an area you're interested in I would suggest

reading " Hormone Deception " by Lindsey Berkson. It contains a whole

chapter on breast and womb contamination and looks at studies done

on women in 3rd world countries where DDT is still used. They

discuss the drop in contaminants in a womans body after prenancy as

some is transferred to the baby. It's an eye opener.

She discusses detoxing before pregancy.

A second even better book is " Our Stolen Future " by Theo Colborn or

look at the book synopsis:

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/Basics/bookbasics.htm

And " Our Children's Toxic Legacy: How Science and Law Fail to

Protect Us from Pesticides "

You can get all of these used on Amazon.

A simple overveiw of it with children is

here:http://www.cape.ca/children/repro6.html

Lynn

> erica z

>

> > I wanted to post this as I was the one that mentioned it a few

> weeks

> > ago in some thread. LOL...can't remember what the heck it was.

> >

> > Endocrine disruptors by the way are in pesticides, dixon, pcp's,

> > plastics and quite a few other stuff. They accumulate in fatty

> tissues

> > esp. breast tissue and get nto milk. They can act like hormones

in

> the

> > body in ways they shouldn't.

> >

> > Anyhow, this past weekend I had the opportunity to talk to a

> nutrition

> > PhD researcher at CDC who just happened to have an interest in

this

> > very thing. He said yes, it's a big problem, the effects of

which

> we

> > really can't study accurately as they do different things at

> different

> > times during our developement...especially for girls during

> puberty.

> > But that aside from all his research on nursing babies, he felt

the

> > benefits still outwieghed the potential risks. He said babies

> really

> > need to be nursed through the first 2 years to totally develop

> their

> > immune and other systems.

> >

> > He also was big time against regular milk for babies. I asked

about

> > raw cow or goat and he said he'd never looked for data on that

so

> he

> > wasn't sure, but his guess was no.

> >

> > That's all I know!

> > Lynn

[Guest guest]

---Lynn,Those chemicals flow thru the waste water treatment

facilities too, I think. Like in " fertilizers " and " composts " sold

from those places and probably downstream too. Dennis Kemnitz

In , " Lynn Razaitis " <lyn122@y...>

wrote:

> I wanted to post this as I was the one that mentioned it a few weeks

> ago in some thread. LOL...can't remember what the heck it was.

>

> Endocrine disruptors by the way are in pesticides, dixon, pcp's,

> plastics and quite a few other stuff. They accumulate in fatty

tissues

> esp. breast tissue and get nto milk. They can act like hormones in

the

> body in ways they shouldn't.

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

I use a multipure but have well water. Could it still be a problem?

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Yeah they sure do and our water treatment center were never designed

to get this stuff out. I've also read that birth control pills and

antibiotics now showing up in tap water. I've have no idea if

regular barbon based filters many of us have in our houses remove

this stuff. We have a multipure with a fluoride filter attached. I

have my doubts about this so now I order glass bottled spring water

that delivered. I try to make that at least over half my cooking and

drinking water and then use filtered as backup. I wish we just had

a well....the whole thing is so complicated to try and reduce this.

I've had hormonal problems so I'm extra careful these days. Plus

I've read so much on this stuff.

Lynn

> > I wanted to post this as I was the one that mentioned it a few

weeks

> > ago in some thread. LOL...can't remember what the heck it was.

> >

> > Endocrine disruptors by the way are in pesticides, dixon, pcp's,

> > plastics and quite a few other stuff. They accumulate in fatty

> tissues

> > esp. breast tissue and get nto milk. They can act like hormones

in

> the

> > body in ways they shouldn't.

> >