Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Bee Venom Therapy. Apitherapy http://www.msa-sea.org/Medical/Alternative/Bees.htm http://nydailynews.healthology.com/nydailynews/14937.htm Chris Help for MS Hi list, A friend of my husband's was just diagnosed with MS--he's only 30!!! I thought I'd pass along any wisdom folks on this list could provide in terms of nutrition and other holistic-health practices that may help. He lives in New York City and is apparently on " lots of medication " but has already sought out a yoga teacher who is in his 70s who is managing his own MS without medication through a yoga practice. Although I think yoga is fantastic (I practice it myself), vegetarian diets are the norm in that world. Perhaps he'll be open to other means of healing as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 > A friend of my husband's was just diagnosed with MS--he's only 30!!! This is a busy MS group you might like to look at: mscured/ Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 >Hi list, > >A friend of my husband's was just diagnosed with MS--he's only 30!!! I >thought I'd pass along any wisdom folks on this list could provide in terms >of nutrition and other holistic-health practices that may help. He lives in >New York City and is apparently on " lots of medication " but has already >sought out a yoga teacher who is in his 70s who is managing his own MS >without medication through a yoga practice. Although I think yoga is >fantastic (I practice it myself), vegetarian diets are the norm in that >world. Perhaps he'll be open to other means of healing as well. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >TIA, > > There has been a lot of research into MS from a dietary standpoint, and no doubt he will hear or read a lot about it. It is an autoimmune disease, and autoimmune diseases seem to be triggered by the IgA food allergens (gluten and casein being the biggies). If he can get tested for IgA allergens (or according to the lower link IgG) then that would be a big help. It's also often true that folks who have celiac are misdiagnosed as having MS .... the symptoms are similar. Or they may be the same disease. A relative of mine who is gluten sensitive was diagnosed with " myelin sheath damage " (which seems to be healing now on a GF diet). I'm not sure how myelin sheath damage is different from MS, sounds like the same thing. Also see my earlier post about gluten and headaches ... gluten sensitivity causes a lot of stumbling and inability to tell where your limbs are, which is similar to MS. I would guess that any vitamins or herbs that help with nerve healing would be good too. The B vitamins seem to help me a lot, and someone else recommended CoQ10 (which I haven't tried yet). -- Heidi Jean http://www.paleodiet.com/ms/ (there are tons of links here) * In <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0879834358/>Gluten Intolerance Beatrice Trum Hunter writes about a Dr. R. Shatin in Australia who " has suggested that an inherited susceptibility to multiple sclerosis is from a primary lesion in the small intestine resulting from gluten intolerance, and that the demyelination is secondary. Shatin suggested that the high incidence of multiple sclerosis in Canada, Scotland and western Ireland may be related to the predominant consumption of Canadian hard wheat, which has the highest gluten content of all wheat varieties. In contrast, the incidence of multiple sclerosis is low among indigenous Equatorial Africans who mainly consume non-gluten containing grains such as millet. " http://www.msif.org/en/research/research_news/multiple_17.html Multiple sclerosis and occult gluten sensitivity. summary: Two atypical patients with a MS-like illness and evidence of occult celiac disease (CD) were diagnosed by the authors. This prompted screening of a further 49 unselected MS cases for serologic evidence of CD. Findings suggested that anti-gliadin antibody (especially IgG isotype) can be a nonspecific finding in MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 I might also note, since this is an NT group, that Vit D seems to be mentioned a lot in relation to MS. Since a lot of us don't get out in the sun much (or take cod liver oil) it might be worth a shot. This talks about Vit D being reduced due to phytates ... IgA allergies seem to wreck havoc with Vit D too (or the reverse, depending on your point of view). But since some of the other treatments that seem to help MS deal with calcium/mag etc (which also seem to be Vit D dependent) ... -- Heidi Jean http://www.direct-ms.org/vitamind.html SCIENTIFIC DATA RELATING VITAMIN D TO MS Goldberg (1974a, 1974b) first proposed the concept that vitamin D was an important factor in MS. He marshalled a variety of epidemiological data to make a case for vitamin D being a factor in the onset and progression of MS. Goldberg emphasized the conspicuous high prevalence of MS in areas which receive a relatively low amount of sunlight. Acheson et al (1960) had earlier documented this relationship between MS prevalence and sunlight with a very impressive negative correlation between MS prevalence and hours of sunshine. Goldberg (1974a) took the next step and postulated that such a close correspondence between low sunlight and MS was due to low vitamin D production in the population. Goldberg (1974a) also showed that within areas of low sunlight (e.g. Norway) differences in MS prevalence could be explained by dietary factors which affect vitamin D production. Such factors include the amount of fish eaten (increases vitamin D) and the amount of grains consumed (reduces vitamin D levels due to the action of phytates). To explain how vitamin D levels were related to MS, Goldberg (1974b) proposed that genetically susceptible individuals may need larger than normal amounts of vitamin D during myelin formation and that insufficient vitamin D during childhood might result in defective myelin which would be susceptible to breakdown in later life. Goldberg's ideas were completely ignored by medical researchers, although, as will be discussed later, he was able to organize a small clinical trial to test his concept. Goldberg's innovative hypothesis that vitamin D is a key factor in the development of MS and for explaining the distinctive geographic variations in MS prevalence is just as attractive today as it was 26 years ago. Science started to catch up with Goldberg in the early 80s with the recognition that immune cells carry a receptor for the active hormone of vitamin D (1,25-(OH)2D) and that this hormone likely regulates immune functions (Bhalla et al, 1983). This discovery led to ongoing research efforts which continue to uncover a number of important ways in which vitamin D hormone affects the immune system. One area of research in this regard was a number of experimental studies with mice and rats which are genetically susceptible to animal forms of autoimmune disease such as EAE (closely resembles MS). These studies showed that injections of vitamin D hormone could protect against or arrest the animal forms of MS (Lemire and Archer, 1991; Cantorna et al, 1996), type 1 diabetes (Mathieu et al, 1994), rheumatoid arthritis (Cantorna et al, 1998a) and lupus (Lemire et al, 1992). Furthermore, immunological analyses done in conjunction with these experiments revealed the following immune-regulating actions for vitamin D hormone: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 > Help for MS > > >Hi list, > >A friend of my husband's was just diagnosed with MS--he's only 30!!! I >thought I'd pass along any wisdom folks on this list could provide in terms >of nutrition and other holistic-health practices that may help. >He lives in >New York City and is apparently on " lots of medication " but has already >sought out a yoga teacher who is in his 70s who is managing his own MS >without medication through a yoga practice. Although I think yoga is >fantastic (I practice it myself), vegetarian diets are the norm in that >world. Perhaps he'll be open to other means of healing as well. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >TIA, > > You can probably guess what the Mercuriantor will tell you - mercury poisoning is one known cause of MS. Apparently several former MS sufferers have recoved by removing amalgams, and chelating, IIRC. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 There is more MS in northerly latitudes. I understand that vitamin D helps. He could spend some time in the sun and/or take cod liver oil. Mycotoxins could be involved: http://www.mercola.com/2003/jul/19/multiple_sclerosis.htm > > Help for MS > > > > > >Hi list, > > > >A friend of my husband's was just diagnosed with MS--he's only 30!!! I > >thought I'd pass along any wisdom folks on this list could provide in terms > >of nutrition and other holistic-health practices that may help. > >He lives in > >New York City and is apparently on " lots of medication " but has already > >sought out a yoga teacher who is in his 70s who is managing his own MS > >without medication through a yoga practice. Although I think yoga is > >fantastic (I practice it myself), vegetarian diets are the norm in that > >world. Perhaps he'll be open to other means of healing as well. > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > >TIA, > > > > > > You can probably guess what the Mercuriantor will tell you - mercury > poisoning is one known cause of MS. Apparently several former MS sufferers > have recoved by removing amalgams, and chelating, IIRC. > > > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " - - > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Regarding MS and myelin regeneration... I thought this might be of interest: ----- Original Message ----- From: " Duncan Crow " > Myelin sheaths regenerate as HGH levels rise: > http://tinyurl.com/6xzlj > > Myelin regenerates with high-dose b-12 methylcobalamin (25-60 mg > daily), a 99 times more bioavailable form of B vitamin. > > Myelin damage can be stopped with antioxidants; don't forget the > glutathione precursors cold-processed whey and selenium. The whey > also provides essential amino acids and very bioavailable proteins. > > " Smart Drugs " such as piracetam, pramiracetam, and a couple of others > increase neuron generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Wow..this is so darned interesting. I am on many autism lists and guess what..... B12 shots have been incredibly helpful in reversing symptoms.. Bruce, I tried to trace this article but can't access the website. I know of Duncan Crow ( nice guy) as he was on a discussion list I was on but I would still like to see the original article. in Germany Re: Help for MS > Regarding MS and myelin regeneration... > I thought this might be of interest: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Duncan Crow " > > > Myelin sheaths regenerate as HGH levels rise: > > http://tinyurl.com/6xzlj > > > > Myelin regenerates with high-dose b-12 methylcobalamin (25-60 mg > > daily), a 99 times more bioavailable form of B vitamin. > > > > Myelin damage can be stopped with antioxidants; don't forget the > > glutathione precursors cold-processed whey and selenium. The whey > > also provides essential amino acids and very bioavailable proteins. > > > > " Smart Drugs " such as piracetam, pramiracetam, and a couple of others > > increase neuron generation. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 > Wow..this is so darned interesting. I am on many autism lists and guess > what..... B12 shots have been incredibly helpful in reversing symptoms.. > > Bruce, I tried to trace this article but can't access the website. I know of > Duncan Crow ( nice guy) as he was on a discussion list I was on but I would > still like to see the original article. I wonder why it wouldn't open for you. Here is the long url: http://members.shaw.ca/patriciagilbert/HGH_neuro_medline.html regards, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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