RE: need help for anxiety

August 3, 2004

> I'm looking for suggestions for anxiety.

Hi Lynn,

Please look back on messages # 52612 and # 52617. I recently posted

52612 regarding cortisol and anxiety. It almost appears that if you

can decrease your cortisol levels you can decrease your anxiety.

Tomorrow I'm getting some Chinese herbals that decrease cortisol

levels. Keep in touch and I'll let you know how they are working

over time.

All my best,

Cyndy

August 3, 2004

>I'm looking for suggestions for anxiety. My husband is having

>problems with it. Our diet is excellent and our saturated fats high

>as well as lots of CLO and butter oil. No wheat or much grains,

>lots of raw dairy and grassfed meats.

Food allergies cause cortisol levels to rise, which of itself can cause

anxiety, I think. You might try an elimination diet, or the IgG and/or

IgA testing (York labs has a saliva test for IgA and a pinprick test

for IgG, Finerhealth has a stool test for IgA). Dairy does cause

mental issues for some people (raw or otherwise) ... doing without

it for a week or so, then doing a pulse test with it might be

enlightening.

I did have a big problem with anxiety, which just isn't there anymore.

But what did help when I had it was doing yard work in the sun,

yoga, weightlifting, hot tea, and wine. Not all at the same time :--)

Dairy still triggers it for me, though kefir seems to be ok. When I

drink milk, my hands and feet go cold, and I get physically cold,

and have an intense feeling of impending doom. Next day I feel

very dehydrated and am very thirsty and hungry all day, and can't

think straight. I have no idea WHY that particular reaction happens though.

-- Heidi Jean

August 3, 2004

The three things that cause anxiety for me are food allergy, candida, and

hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia is the big one.

Irene

At 05:52 PM 8/2/04, you wrote:

>I'm looking for suggestions for anxiety. My husband is having

>problems with it. Our diet is excellent and our saturated fats high

>as well as lots of CLO and butter oil. No wheat or much grains,

>lots of raw dairy and grassfed meats.

>The only natural supplement he's found that really works is kava

>kava. I'm a bit nervous about him using this too often. He's working

>on learning some stress reduction techniques but they are only

>working so so. It's been a lifetime problem for him

>

>Thanks,

>Lynn

>

August 3, 2004

At 08:52 PM 8/2/2004, you wrote:

>I'm looking for suggestions for anxiety. My husband is having

>problems with it. Our diet is excellent and our saturated fats high

>as well as lots of CLO and butter oil. No wheat or much grains,

>lots of raw dairy and grassfed meats.

>The only natural supplement he's found that really works is kava

>kava. I'm a bit nervous about him using this too often. He's working

>on learning some stress reduction techniques but they are only

>working so so. It's been a lifetime problem for him

>

>Thanks,

>Lynn

hi, lynn -

kava is ok but you're right - you don't want to depend on it to get through

the day. it will be better if he's drinking kava tea rather than taking the

supplement/otc form. those are generally denatured and sad. i like heidi's

suggestions about food allergies, as well as getting out in the sun and

doing some hard work. also, he can use chamomile or lavender or melissa on

days that aren't quite as bad - save the kava for the really bad stuff.

does he hate his job? does his boss suck? if there's stuff like that going

on, no amount of kava will help until he fixes the actual problem...

-katja

August 3, 2004

I have to add something a friend introduced me to: www.iamshaman.com. It's a

site that sells psychoactive herbs. I don't think any of them would be good

for ongoing use, but i can see the kratom nipping an anxiety attack in the

bud and bringing about a feeling of well-being. I have tried it once. If you

take too little you get a stimulating effect. A little more turns it into a

happy, sedating effect (6 grams of the premium powder for me). Have to take

it on an empty stomach and best to keep the stomach that way (although not

if blood sugar will be an issue). I find i need something in the house for

those times when i feel like killing the whole family and then myself as i

never get time to myself. This was a safe, mild enough, with no

after-effects solution for me. Altered my reality enough to mellow me out,

yet kept me lucid enough to function.

Elaine, the mommy's little helper user

August 4, 2004

For Binaural beat meditation programs, by far the best is from

centerpointe. I think centerpointe.com is the URL

August 4, 2004

Check out the book The Mood Cure by Ross. She is an honorary

board member of WAPF and her book the The Diet Cure is a recommended

book. She uses amino acids to handle bad moods caused by amino acid

deficiencies. Aminos are the precursors to all the

neurotransmitters in the brain and she has years of clinical success

to back her up. Even though you eat protein now, it can take

supplementation for a few months to get the body back in balance or

if there is a nutrient absortion problem.

> I'm looking for suggestions for anxiety. My husband is having

> problems with it. Our diet is excellent and our saturated fats

high

> as well as lots of CLO and butter oil. No wheat or much grains,

> lots of raw dairy and grassfed meats.

> The only natural supplement he's found that really works is kava

> kava. I'm a bit nervous about him using this too often. He's

working

> on learning some stress reduction techniques but they are only

> working so so. It's been a lifetime problem for him

>

> Thanks,

> Lynn

August 5, 2004

--- In , " spiorad " <spiorad@y...>

wrote:

> Check out the book The Mood Cure by Ross. She is an honorary

> board member of WAPF and her book the The Diet Cure is a

recommended

> book. She uses amino acids to handle bad moods caused by amino

acid

> deficiencies. Aminos are the precursors to all the

> neurotransmitters in the brain and she has years of clinical

success

> to back her up.

I've not heard of this concept. Are you able to give me a little

more information? The reason I ask, is my dad is getting very odd

lately, and much of the oddness is driven by paranoia. The paranoia

was kicked off by his treatment by a particularly nasty boss, but

it's only getting worse, not better, by having retired 2 years ago.

He refuses to take fish oils, because he doesn't know what they're

for and does not believe he needs them, yet won't research them on

the internet himself (and doesn't believe me). However, he does take

l-glutamine cos it helps his digestion, so maybe we can convince him

to take more amino acids under the guise of digestive aids.

Thanks

Jo

August 6, 2004

Well, I must recommend her books for the full explanation, but I'll try to give

you " a little more information. "

Neurotransmitters are chemicals that transmit signals between the nerves in your

nervous system. They are created by the body from amino acids. If you are

deficient in certain amino acids, you will be deficient in neurotransmitters and

could suffer from all kinds of symptoms. There is no such thing as a " chemical

imbalance " in the brain as psychiastrists would sell (and lie to) you, but there

are chemical (nutritional) deficiencies in the brain. [And that doesn't

conflict with my belief that I am a spiritual being and use my mind (memories,

mental pictures) as I still have and run a body which works only on what I put

into my mouth and nothing more.]

The most popular deficiency is in the neurotransmitter serotonin. Here are

symptoms listed in The Diet Cure (I loaned my The Mood Cure to a friend):

negativity, depression

worry, anxiety

low self-esteem

obsessive thoughts/behaviors

winter blues

PMS

irritability, rage

heat intolerance

panic, phobias

afternoon or evening cravings

fibromyalgia, TMJ

night-owl, hard to get to sleep

insomnia, distrubed sleep

suicidal thoughts

People will use addictive substances such as (guess what) food! and drugs to

deal with these symptoms. They never correct the deficiency. Prozac " works "

because serotonin alternates between " on " and " off " states and prozac keeps all

your serotonin " on " thus giving you more available. A common side effect is

insomnia because the body makes melatonin from serotonin. Shortage of serotonin

= shortage of melatonin.

The body makes serotonin from the amino acid L-tryptophan. Another quote from

The Diet Cure: " In 1989 a series of bad batches of L-tryptophan, which killed

40 people and made many more sick, prompted the FDA to stop all US sales. One

Japanese company had produced all of these batches, which, it was found, were

contaminated because they had eliminated three filter systems that they'd been

using for years. . . . Despite evidence that no other manufacturer has ever

made a problem batch, the FDA recommended for years that L-Tryptophan not be

used as a supplement. " Interesting, Prozac came on the market a few months

later.

L-tryptophan is normally available only by prescription but it is also available

on the internet as a " pet " supplement. It is a little expensive. Fortunately,

L-tryptophan converts to 5HTP which converts to serotonin, and 5HTP is

inexpensive and available at your local natural food store or even Wal-Mart. It

is sold in 50 mg tablets and the usual dose is 50 - 150 mg midafternoon and

bedtime. One would start with 50 mg and use more if needed and could use as

much as 1000 mg midmorning, midafternoon and evening. L-Trypthophan and 5HTP

have no bad side effects like anti-depressants drugs and studies show they are

as effective if not more so.

Ok, so there's your lesson on L-tryptophan, 5HTP and serotonin. This is just

the tip of the iceberg. In the books she covers 5 other aminos as well as

herbs, the thyroid and adrenal glands, nutrition and more. For example,

L-tyrosine and L- or DL-phenylalanine for mental energy and alterness, GABA for

calmness and relaxation, etc. And don't forget your B vitamins, especially B1.

Get the book!

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