Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 I am just starting this way of eating with my family. I live in ND and have found someone 30mi away in MN to buy raw milk from. I am wondering what questions do I need to ask this farmer about his milk. I am concerned about health and safety because I have small children. I also have the usual preconcieved notions about raw milk and would appreciate any encouragement/wisdom on the topic. Thanks, Nichole PS I have a daughter with eczema and a husband with severe seasonal allergies and I have heard that raw milk helps with both, true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Wow - those are really low incidences, lower than pasteurized and other foods. I've been meaning to look into it, so thanks for posting that. I've read (from what I consider reputable sources) that unpasteurized milk can be even safer and more digestable because it contains all the enzymes and antimicrobial/antiviral properties that breast milk does, and when you heat it you destroy that benefit and make it less digestable. I've often wondered, since this really kicked in around the 50s and we're second and third generation products of this, if this is one of several changes in our food supply that have contributed to such an increase in allergies and autoimmunity. Anyone always looking for that key to healthier foods should read " Nourishing Traditions, The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats " by Sally Fallon. I'm finally learning how to cook good food, and also it explains literally every food that is " off the list " for us, comparing how they were traditionally prepared or grown in older societies, and truly explains why so many people are developing allergies and other health problems. It does not go against , either, as it pushes the importance of proteins, and offers so many more options (besides just milk products) for truly digestible foods, probiotic and enzyme-rich foods, etc. I love it. It's helping me overcome my eating problems (obsessive and paranoid, almost) and absolutely making me feel better and have more energy. Thanks again- --- April Jagnow <april@...> wrote: > On vanilla Nesquik-- I was afraid that it might have > milk products in it > too, but checked the label and was surprised to find > that there weren't any > that I could see. I mentioned to Dr. Goldberg that > I was using it and he > said that was fine. > > On unpasteurized milk-- I don't recall whether I > spoke with Dr. G about it > or not, but I do remember the conversation with our > local pediatrician. He > was a little concerned (not enough to recommend that > we stop) and just told > us to watch out for fever or digestive problems. > We've been using it almost > 2 years and have had no problem. > > I also found the following info at > www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_mil > k.htm > > RAW MILK: Incidence of food-borne illness from raw > milk – 1.9 cases per > 100,000 people, 1973-1992. (American Journal Public > Health Aug 1998, Vol > 88., No 8) > > PASTEURIZED MILK: Based on CDC website, incidence of > food-borne illness from > all foods including pasteurized milk – 4.7 cases per > 100,000 people, > 1993-1997. (US Census Bureau 1997 population > estimate 267,783,607) > > OTHER FOODS: Based on CDC website of reported > food-borne illness from other > foods – 6.4 cases per 100,000 people, per year from > 1993-1997. > > If you don't feel comfortable with the raw milk, > then pasteurized goat milk > is becoming more and more available in grocery > stores-- though it doesn't > taste quite as good. (nesquik helps make it more > palatable) Cooking or > melting cheese ought to kill bacteria that would > cause possible concern. > > > Hope this helps. > April > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 I have also heard about people using raw butter too? Does anyone know what that is, how would that be safe for our Dairy free kids? <thecolemans4@...> wrote: Wow - those are really low incidences, lower than pasteurized and other foods. I've been meaning to look into it, so thanks for posting that. I've read (from what I consider reputable sources) that unpasteurized milk can be even safer and more digestable because it contains all the enzymes and antimicrobial/antiviral properties that breast milk does, and when you heat it you destroy that benefit and make it less digestable. I've often wondered, since this really kicked in around the 50s and we're second and third generation products of this, if this is one of several changes in our food supply that have contributed to such an increase in allergies and autoimmunity. Anyone always looking for that key to healthier foods should read " Nourishing Traditions, The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats " by Sally Fallon. I'm finally learning how to cook good food, and also it explains literally every food that is " off the list " for us, comparing how they were traditionally prepared or grown in older societies, and truly explains why so many people are developing allergies and other health problems. It does not go against , either, as it pushes the importance of proteins, and offers so many more options (besides just milk products) for truly digestible foods, probiotic and enzyme-rich foods, etc. I love it. It's helping me overcome my eating problems (obsessive and paranoid, almost) and absolutely making me feel better and have more energy. Thanks again- --- April Jagnow <april@...> wrote: > On vanilla Nesquik-- I was afraid that it might have > milk products in it > too, but checked the label and was surprised to find > that there weren't any > that I could see. I mentioned to Dr. Goldberg that > I was using it and he > said that was fine. > > On unpasteurized milk-- I don't recall whether I > spoke with Dr. G about it > or not, but I do remember the conversation with our > local pediatrician. He > was a little concerned (not enough to recommend that > we stop) and just told > us to watch out for fever or digestive problems. > We've been using it almost > 2 years and have had no problem. > > I also found the following info at > www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_mil > k.htm > > RAW MILK: Incidence of food-borne illness from raw > milk – 1.9 cases per > 100,000 people, 1973-1992. (American Journal Public > Health Aug 1998, Vol > 88., No 8) > > PASTEURIZED MILK: Based on CDC website, incidence of > food-borne illness from > all foods including pasteurized milk – 4.7 cases per > 100,000 people, > 1993-1997. (US Census Bureau 1997 population > estimate 267,783,607) > > OTHER FOODS: Based on CDC website of reported > food-borne illness from other > foods – 6.4 cases per 100,000 people, per year from > 1993-1997. > > If you don't feel comfortable with the raw milk, > then pasteurized goat milk > is becoming more and more available in grocery > stores-- though it doesn't > taste quite as good. (nesquik helps make it more > palatable) Cooking or > melting cheese ought to kill bacteria that would > cause possible concern. > > > Hope this helps. > April > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 I think this is ghee. --- catherine quinn <quinn.cat1968@...> wrote: > I have also heard about people using raw butter too? Does anyone > know what that is, how would that be safe for our Dairy free kids? > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: Wow - those are > really low incidences, lower than > pasteurized and other foods. I've been meaning to > look into it, so thanks for posting that. > > I've read (from what I consider reputable sources) > that unpasteurized milk can be even safer and more > digestable because it contains all the enzymes and > antimicrobial/antiviral properties that breast milk > does, and when you heat it you destroy that benefit > and make it less digestable. I've often wondered, > since this really kicked in around the 50s and we're > second and third generation products of this, if this > is one of several changes in our food supply that have > contributed to such an increase in allergies and > autoimmunity. > > Anyone always looking for that key to healthier foods > should read " Nourishing Traditions, The Cookbook that > Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet > Dictocrats " by Sally Fallon. I'm finally learning how > to cook good food, and also it explains literally > every food that is " off the list " for us, comparing > how they were traditionally prepared or grown in older > societies, and truly explains why so many people are > developing allergies and other health problems. It > does not go against , either, as it pushes the > importance of proteins, and offers so many more > options (besides just milk products) for truly > digestible foods, probiotic and enzyme-rich foods, > etc. I love it. It's helping me overcome my eating > problems (obsessive and paranoid, almost) and > absolutely making me feel better and have more energy. > > Thanks again- > > > > --- April Jagnow <april@...> wrote: > > > On vanilla Nesquik-- I was afraid that it might have > > milk products in it > > too, but checked the label and was surprised to find > > that there weren't any > > that I could see. I mentioned to Dr. Goldberg that > > I was using it and he > > said that was fine. > > > > On unpasteurized milk-- I don't recall whether I > > spoke with Dr. G about it > > or not, but I do remember the conversation with our > > local pediatrician. He > > was a little concerned (not enough to recommend that > > we stop) and just told > > us to watch out for fever or digestive problems. > > We've been using it almost > > 2 years and have had no problem. > > > > I also found the following info at > > > www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_mil > > k.htm > > > > RAW MILK: Incidence of food-borne illness from raw > > milk – 1.9 cases per > > 100,000 people, 1973-1992. (American Journal Public > > Health Aug 1998, Vol > > 88., No 8) > > > > PASTEURIZED MILK: Based on CDC website, incidence of > > food-borne illness from > > all foods including pasteurized milk – 4.7 cases per > > 100,000 people, > > 1993-1997. (US Census Bureau 1997 population > > estimate 267,783,607) > > > > OTHER FOODS: Based on CDC website of reported > > food-borne illness from other > > foods – 6.4 cases per 100,000 people, per year from > > 1993-1997. > > > > If you don't feel comfortable with the raw milk, > > then pasteurized goat milk > > is becoming more and more available in grocery > > stores-- though it doesn't > > taste quite as good. (nesquik helps make it more > > palatable) Cooking or > > melting cheese ought to kill bacteria that would > > cause possible concern. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > April > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 I grew up on unpastuerised " separated " or " skim milk " from our family property in Australia. While we raised sheep, beef cattle and grew wheat/oats etc, we always kept a few " milkers " - beautiful old Jersey, Geurnsey cows and a Freisian. As a littl boy I used to help my old aunts bring in the cows at dusk. In the morning at daylight we'd go down and milk the cows. Later, we'd run it through the separator - the cream going into one stainless steel bucket and the milk into several others. My grandmother would then set about making butter, and the milk would be divided up amongst the family households. It is the best tasting milk ever - and may have a lot to do with health of my brothers and sisters and cousins.... I remember when I went to school they had pastuerised milk there - it took me for ever to get to like it! Then it got homogomised too....even worse! --- <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Wow - those are really low incidences, lower than > pasteurized and other foods. I've been meaning to > look into it, so thanks for posting that. > > I've read (from what I consider reputable sources) > that unpasteurized milk can be even safer and more > digestable because it contains all the enzymes and > antimicrobial/antiviral properties that breast milk > does, and when you heat it you destroy that benefit > and make it less digestable. I've often wondered, > since this really kicked in around the 50s and we're > second and third generation products of this, if this > is one of several changes in our food supply that have > contributed to such an increase in allergies and > autoimmunity. > > Anyone always looking for that key to healthier foods > should read " Nourishing Traditions, The Cookbook that > Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet > Dictocrats " by Sally Fallon. I'm finally learning how > to cook good food, and also it explains literally > every food that is " off the list " for us, comparing > how they were traditionally prepared or grown in older > societies, and truly explains why so many people are > developing allergies and other health problems. It > does not go against , either, as it pushes the > importance of proteins, and offers so many more > options (besides just milk products) for truly > digestible foods, probiotic and enzyme-rich foods, > etc. I love it. It's helping me overcome my eating > problems (obsessive and paranoid, almost) and > absolutely making me feel better and have more energy. > > Thanks again- > > > > --- April Jagnow <april@...> wrote: > > > On vanilla Nesquik-- I was afraid that it might have > > milk products in it > > too, but checked the label and was surprised to find > > that there weren't any > > that I could see. I mentioned to Dr. Goldberg that > > I was using it and he > > said that was fine. > > > > On unpasteurized milk-- I don't recall whether I > > spoke with Dr. G about it > > or not, but I do remember the conversation with our > > local pediatrician. He > > was a little concerned (not enough to recommend that > > we stop) and just told > > us to watch out for fever or digestive problems. > > We've been using it almost > > 2 years and have had no problem. > > > > I also found the following info at > > > www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_mil > > k.htm > > > > RAW MILK: Incidence of food-borne illness from raw > > milk – 1.9 cases per > > 100,000 people, 1973-1992. (American Journal Public > > Health Aug 1998, Vol > > 88., No 8) > > > > PASTEURIZED MILK: Based on CDC website, incidence of > > food-borne illness from > > all foods including pasteurized milk – 4.7 cases per > > 100,000 people, > > 1993-1997. (US Census Bureau 1997 population > > estimate 267,783,607) > > > > OTHER FOODS: Based on CDC website of reported > > food-borne illness from other > > foods – 6.4 cases per 100,000 people, per year from > > 1993-1997. > > > > If you don't feel comfortable with the raw milk, > > then pasteurized goat milk > > is becoming more and more available in grocery > > stores-- though it doesn't > > taste quite as good. (nesquik helps make it more > > palatable) Cooking or > > melting cheese ought to kill bacteria that would > > cause possible concern. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > April > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 It's so funny that this topic is coming up now. On Mother's Day, my sister's fiance asked me if I had ever tried raw cow's milk for . Naturally, I said no, and he swore that it's pasteurization that drastically changes the casein molecule and makes it so allergenic. He said all his allergy problems cleared up as soon as he switched. Of course, I'd never dare try it with without research to back it up, and without Dr. G's go-ahead, but it did spark my interest. Donna > > > > > On vanilla Nesquik-- I was afraid that it might have > > > milk products in it > > > too, but checked the label and was surprised to find > > > that there weren't any > > > that I could see. I mentioned to Dr. Goldberg that > > > I was using it and he > > > said that was fine. > > > > > > On unpasteurized milk-- I don't recall whether I > > > spoke with Dr. G about it > > > or not, but I do remember the conversation with our > > > local pediatrician. He > > > was a little concerned (not enough to recommend that > > > we stop) and just told > > > us to watch out for fever or digestive problems. > > > We've been using it almost > > > 2 years and have had no problem. > > > > > > I also found the following info at > > > > > www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_mil > > > k.htm > > > > > > RAW MILK: Incidence of food-borne illness from raw > > > milk – 1.9 cases per > > > 100,000 people, 1973-1992. (American Journal Public > > > Health Aug 1998, Vol > > > 88., No 8) > > > > > > PASTEURIZED MILK: Based on CDC website, incidence of > > > food-borne illness from > > > all foods including pasteurized milk – 4.7 cases per > > > 100,000 people, > > > 1993-1997. (US Census Bureau 1997 population > > > estimate 267,783,607) > > > > > > OTHER FOODS: Based on CDC website of reported > > > food-borne illness from other > > > foods – 6.4 cases per 100,000 people, per year from > > > 1993-1997. > > > > > > If you don't feel comfortable with the raw milk, > > > then pasteurized goat milk > > > is becoming more and more available in grocery > > > stores-- though it doesn't > > > taste quite as good. (nesquik helps make it more > > > palatable) Cooking or > > > melting cheese ought to kill bacteria that would > > > cause possible concern. > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Well, it's not quite as much about the casein molecule (from some points of view) until you get to " ULTRA " pasteurization - then the major changes start taking place. And homogenization actually makes cholesterol harmful - whereas it was not before. You can still set out pasteurized milk on the counter and make some of the cultured dairy products, but without special chemical & cultural assistance, you cannot do it with ultrapasteurized milk. It is dead, and no bacteria would want to grow in it. So why would the bacteria in our gut want to? --- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote: > It's so funny that this topic is coming up now. On > Mother's Day, my > sister's fiance asked me if I had ever tried raw > cow's milk for . > Naturally, I said no, and he swore that it's > pasteurization that > drastically changes the casein molecule and makes it > so allergenic. > He said all his allergy problems cleared up as soon > as he switched. > > Of course, I'd never dare try it with without > research to back > it up, and without Dr. G's go-ahead, but it did > spark my interest. > > Donna > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 In all my years I have never heard of using horse milk, I would not even conceive that how in the world?? where are the utters..he he...so I was laughing as I saw Joy posting horse milk was used from WWI wow! nothing surprises me...Sheep, goat, cow, these are the mammals I am used to that give us milk! Michele From: e Bonte <mbmasiba@...>Subject: Re: [health] Re: Raw Milkhealth Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 11:48 AM Thank you for the info Michèle. I loved very much raw cow milk when I helped by a farmer in my teenager life. It was ....delicious Goats milk I think we got it when I was ten and visiting Swiss on snowclasses and .......once again i loved it very much. I don't know if we can get raw milk without problems here in Belgium as our farmer died already long ago. Maybe I have to take a biketrip to go to explore some farmers and asking about raw milk. e :-) From: michele <epifany97523@...>health Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:21:34 PMSubject: [health] Re: Raw Milk This is a true story here, one of many stories I have been hearing about from a woman who is about in her late 80's that raises goats all her life. She told me that she was raised on goats milk as a small child too, and she is very healthy too for her age the way she still gets around. She told me a story of a baby that was written off by her doctor, the doc told the parents there was nothing left to do for the baby, she probably would die. So a nurse quietly wrote the number (of my woman who I am speaking about) and told her not to say anything to any one about this. They call the number and started giving the baby goats milk. The baby thrived on the milk and became healthy. I have a granddaughter who I go out of my way to get her goats milk every few days, because my daughter no longer can nurse. I get about a gallon which will last the baby about 4 days worth, my granddaughter is now 4 months old, been doing this for 2 months now. She is thriving on the goats milk. She was a premie weighing less than 6 lbs, and now she is about 17 lbs, a real chub chub and now she is starting to eat bananas her first food.So its no joke, this is truth from my own experience, and the experience of others.What I am finding out is that our services here run by WIC will only give poor families one choice and that is similac. In my family we are allergic to soy products and similac is made with soy oil. Did you ever read the label on similac? The one that my daughter has gotten was the one that claims its for sensitive babies. The 1st 2 ingredients are HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) and then it has soy oil in it. Some milk powder, from cow, which is hard for a baby to digest in the 1st place.She complained to WIC about the similac but they say this is what doctors recommend most so that is that no other alternatives. I had bought the baby before discovering my contact organic formula but this is very pricey and its not goats milk either, and the baby does get a lot of gas from anything other than goats milk.To me its more like a conspiracy to keep the poor in poor health from the start. It starts out when the baby is born and what you feed the baby, formula, or breast milk etc..then the health of the baby is compromised with formula.You are not supposed to give baby cow's milk till after they are a yr old, for health reasons they have found. Baby's may develope asthma at an early age etc, or skin problems things of that nature. With the milk pasterized and homogenized as well and all those antibiotics and hormones in it what do we expect.So I am happy to say that raw goats milk is important to know about if you have a situation like in my daughter's and granddaughter's case. Goats milk is 2nd to mother's milk. Not formula, I can see a big difference in the baby and her digestion with the two.In its raw state they have the enzymes in it for digestion, with similac my granddaughter spits it up, with goats milk she burbs and it goes down and not out on the floor! or all over me!!Anyway this is truth, and I am glad Joy brought this out for all to read and see for yourself.Hope you feel better Joy and are enjoying your raw milk.PS raw goats milk is very illegal in the state of California, and in Oregon is cant say that you are selling it at all or my lady will get into big trouble. This is just like prohibition in a way, its made illegal because the lobbyists friends in Congress want to keep it this way for the dairy industry. Which is a mighty industry and they claim that raw milk has bacteria in it and so on, but a small goat farmer is usually very careful in what they do, and how they milk their goats. It's a small operation not a very large factory farm as such we have across the nation. I think this is our problem we as a nation do things on such a large scale we can't keep up with it all so it goes along with a lot of problems and a great deal of regulations.With a lot of products being recalled it makes one take a long look at what is happening in factory farming.Michele >> Blank> > http://crossfitmaximus.com/2010/02/where-can-i-find-local-raw-milk/> Where can I find local Raw Milk?> February 11, 2010 by kelli > Filed under Nutrition & Wellness, Workout of the Day> > > Curious?> > Raw milk is Nature's perfect food and is extremely important for the developing brains and nervous systems of infants and children. Furthermore, in many children not fortunate enough to have started life on raw milk, raw milk given later in childhood has cured autism, behavior problems, frequent infections, deafness, asthma and allergies and other serious health conditions.> > Skeptical? > > Read for yourself at http://www.realmilk.com/appeal-jun06-testimonials.html. If you are concerned about safety, rest assured. In the farm-to-consumer distribution model, the farmer receives timely and relevant feedback directly from the customers, something that farmers selling bulk milk never receive. Raw milk is actually the safest food around with so much consumer oversight and also with an extremely efficient built-in anti-pathogen mechanism! > > > > http://www.realmilk.com/appeal-jun06-testimonials.html > > CAMPAIGN FOR REAL MILK> Raw Milk for Healthy Babies and Children> --Some Testimonials> MIRACULOUSLY HEALTHY: I love the stories I hear from our local goat farmer who sold raw goat milk to three generations of country folk. Mothers whose babies were sickly and the doctors couldn't figure out what to do brought their babies to him as a last resort. The babies became "show and tell," all fat and pink. One baby was on its death bed. The doctor said not to give it raw milk when the mother questioned him. They went to the goat farmer anyway. The baby was covered with pussy hives and dying. The farmer gave them the milk, but he was sure that this child was too far gone. When he didn't hear back from the parents, he assumed the baby had died. One month later, they were back for more milk (they had bought a month's supply and froze it) with a different child, or so he thought. Until they told him it was the same child--but miraculously healthy > > HAPPY BABY: Our baby was fussy and unhappy on breast milk alone. When we began giving him a supplemental bottle of homemade baby formula based on raw whole milk, he was as happy as he could be. > > PURE AND NATURAL GOODNESS: Our daughter was under five pounds at birth and the doctor said she'd be a very small and frail girl. After drinking nothing but raw milk since age one, she is now a picture of health, rarely ever sick. She just went for her four-year check up and the doctor was astonished at her growth and strength! Chalk another one up for the goodness God created! Pure and natural. > > THRIVED AND THRIVED: After a year on homemade formula based on raw goat milk, my adopted baby has thrived, thrived, thrived. Thank you for making this information available for mothers of adopted children. > > NO MORE ALLERGIES: My son has always been tiny. He was full term, but only weighed just over four pounds at birth. His growth rate had always remained below what it should be. At almost six years, he weighed only 32 pounds. He also had been on four different allergy medications. Two weeks after my finding a source of raw Jersey milk, he no longer needed any medicine. When I took him to the pediatrician, she wanted to know what I had done because he had gained four pounds and grown about one-and-one-half inches in a month. > > INCREDIBLE GIFT: I want to acknowledge you for the incredible gift of life the Foundation is giving with your activism for raw milk. It has made an enormous positive change in our lives. My children were literally dying of giardia infection, with continual vomiting and diarrhea. Modern medicine had nothing to offer us. My kids had always reacted to goat's milk. However, on a visit to a farm, they consumed very large quantities of goat milk fresh from the goat before I realized what they were doing. That was the turning point; today they are healthy and strong thanks to raw dairy products. Thank you for making a difference in so many people's lives. > > ONCE STARVING: My breast-fed baby was starving so I switched to baby formula made with whole raw milk. Not only did he make it to his first year, he is thriving. In fact, when my other children get sick, he does not. > > SPECTACULAR RESULTS: With our first child we had every intention of breast-feeding her but through a series of bad nurses, the difficulty of nursing, fatigue of my wife and the stubbornness of my daughter to not breastfeed, we had to find an alternative. Lucky for us we had a good source of raw milk and the recipe for an alternative formula. The results were spectacular, bordering on unbelievable. She was never sick, slept through the night starting at about eight weeks, ate well and had a happy disposition. > > You can make raw milk available to babies everywhere by supporting A Campaign for Real Milk!> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > A Campaign for Real Milk is a project of The Weston A. Price Foundation> PMB 106-380, 4200 Wisconsin Ave, NW, Washington DC 20016> Phone: (202) 363-4394 | Fax: (202) 363-4396 | Web: www.westonaprice.org> General Information/Membership/Brochures: info (at) westonaprice.org> Local Chapters and Chapter Leaders: chapters (at) westonaprice.org> Website: webmaster (at) realmilk.com> Disclaimer (Terms & Conditions)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 > Maybe I have to > take a biketrip to go to explore some farmers and asking about raw milk. I don't know how it will be in your country, but here in the US it is often easier to find a local farmer who will share some raw milk if you ask for it for your pets. Even a fairly mainstream dairy farmer tends to be less concerned about selling you raw milk if it is not officially " for human consumption " . Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 You, are so right. Also, ask if the animals are fed antibiotics and such! [health] Re: Raw Milk > Maybe I have to> take a biketrip to go to explore some farmers and asking about raw milk.I don't know how it will be in your country, but here in the US it is often easier to find a local farmer who will share some raw milk if you ask for it for your pets. Even a fairly mainstream dairy farmer tends to be less concerned about selling you raw milk if it is not officially "for human consumption". Sara------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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