RE: NEW ~ ?'s about Vit D Toxicity

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> NEW ~ ?'s about Vit D Toxicity

>

>

>Hello,

>I am new to this list. I have just read Nutrition and Physical

>Degeneration and am stunned! I have been on a very healthy (pro-price)

>diet, including raw goats milk, and pasture-fed butter, prior to

>reading the book. After reading his book I am wondering if I could use

>even more butter (I have intense cravings for ice cream) and add cod

>liver oil to my diet. However, I am nervous about Vit D toxicity.

>Mercola.com says you should test first, I do get a good amount of sun

>(live in AZ) but even the 'primitive' people got a lot of sun and

>still had the deficiency (right?). I see information about Vit A and

>am comfortable with that, although I have some minor liver 'problems'

>(according to a holistic MD) due to lots of medication (in the past, I

>no longer take any meds), my tests results are within main stream

>medical norms. I have a history of depression,

>aggression/irritability, gluten intolerance, IBS, eye problems, just

>to name a few. I also have a child with asthma/allergies, controlled

>by homeopathic meds and another with cavaty and white blotchy teeth.

>Anyone have any input on this?

>Thanks

>A Mom

Hi " Mom " ,

Here's a post I sent to another list recently on this topic:

" Hi All,

I retook the vit. D test, and this time did the right test. My result was 62

ng/mL. The lab's reference range is 20-57 ng/mL. Krispin's refernce range

goes up to 65 ng/mL. So I'm within her reference range. I take 2 Tbsp. of

Premiere brand CLO daily, and had been doing this for several months prior

to taking the test.

Having said that, my ND who authorized the test, said that he could not find

any case of vitamin D toxicity in the literature other than one case of a

man who unknowingly was taking " industrial doses " of 400,000 IU per day of

vit. D for several months. When the mistake was discovered, he stopped

taking the large doses and his toxicity symptoms disappeared. My ND said he

talked to Cannell, MD, head of the Vitamin D council, who, IIRC,

confirmed that there's never been a case of vitamin D toxicity from

supplements reported in the literature.

My ND said he was planning on contacting Krispin since she warns against

overdosing and has reported possible toxicity. But at this point, he said I

should carry on with my high doses without worry. I suggested that maybe I

should re-test in 6 months or so. But he said even if my level went up to 75

ng/mL in 6 months there's nothing to be concerned about as there's no

evidence of vit. d toxicity (aside from industrial doses, of course!). "

(Note: I take 2 tbsp. of the high vitamin CLO daily, which nets me about

7,000 IUs vit. D from CLO alone. I also take a multi vit with 400 additional

IUs. And I get some from food as well. Also, the ND who authorize the test

is not WAPF-affiliated, although he's a fan and has come to at least one of

our local WAPF chapter potlucks.)

FWIW.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

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[Guest guest]

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Suze Fisher [mailto:s.fisher22@...]

>

> I retook the vit. D test, and this time did the right test.

> My result was 62 ng/mL. The lab's reference range is 20-57

> ng/mL. Krispin's refernce range goes up to 65 ng/mL. So I'm

> within her reference range. I take 2 Tbsp. of Premiere brand

> CLO daily, and had been doing this for several months prior

> to taking the test.

Is that a therapeutic dose, or do you intend to continue indefinitely? If

it's the latter, could you elaborate on the reasoning behind your decision

to take up this regimen? Is the high PUFA content a concern?

> Having said that, my ND who authorized the test, said that he

> could not find any case of vitamin D toxicity in the

> literature other than one case of a man who unknowingly was

> taking " industrial doses " of 400,000 IU per day of vit. D for

> several months.

Do you have any more details on the story behind that? I'm curious as to how

one can accidentally start taking industrial doses.

[Guest guest]

> RE: NEW ~ ?'s about Vit D Toxicity

>

>

>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Suze Fisher [mailto:s.fisher22@...]

>>

>> I retook the vit. D test, and this time did the right test.

>> My result was 62 ng/mL. The lab's reference range is 20-57

>> ng/mL. Krispin's refernce range goes up to 65 ng/mL. So I'm

>> within her reference range. I take 2 Tbsp. of Premiere brand

>> CLO daily, and had been doing this for several months prior

>> to taking the test.

>

>Is that a therapeutic dose, or do you intend to continue indefinitely?

Therapeutic.

If

>it's the latter, could you elaborate on the reasoning behind your decision

>to take up this regimen? Is the high PUFA content a concern?

Yes, the high PUFA content is a concern. I'm actually taking a bit less now

since I get more sun exposure, but so far we've had a really rainy/overcast

summer so I haven't gotten much sun at all. However, my diet's pretty high

in saturated fats so I'm sure that helps counterbalance negative effects

from my PUFA consumption.

>

>> Having said that, my ND who authorized the test, said that he

>> could not find any case of vitamin D toxicity in the

>> literature other than one case of a man who unknowingly was

>> taking " industrial doses " of 400,000 IU per day of vit. D for

>> several months.

>

>Do you have any more details on the story behind that? I'm curious

>as to how

>one can accidentally start taking industrial doses.

I can't remember any of the details the ND told me other than that. Perhaps

it was mislabeled?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

At 05:53 PM 8/10/2004, you wrote:

> I have a history of depression,

>aggression/irritability, gluten intolerance, IBS, eye problems, just

>to name a few. I also have a child with asthma/allergies, controlled

>by homeopathic meds and another with cavaty and white blotchy teeth.

>Anyone have any input on this?

>Thanks

>A Mom

sure, if the glutenator hasn't beat me to it:

you and your child have celiac. stop eating gluten post haste! and of

course, if you need help, just holler -that's what we're here for!

katja