Re: Vitamin D toxicity?

August 19, 2004

> 4,000 units of vitamin D a day (from all sources). However, 40,000

> units a day will hurt them (over several years). "

---> Hi ...I would assume it could a problem to supplement over

years like I'm doing. However I don't intend this as long term. I

started a few months ago and will probably continue for another 2-3

months. And I don't take 4 TBSP every day. It varies depending on my

stress levels.

> 6 weeks I started having nose bleeds and difficulty getting them to

> stop. Anyone taking megadoses of fishoil/CLO had better be aware of

> this as blood thinners can be very dangerous given the wrong

> circumstances (ie- auto accident, or surgery).

--->My experience has been the exact opposite! And I'm surprised as

I have heard others talk about thin blood problems. I've always

been prone to nosebleeds and now I have none. My skin is also

extremely clear and that's a new one also.

> Lastly, why throw all that money down the drain? I can see it if

Lynn's

> blood levels are not budging, but has she been tested since being

on

> this amount for any length of time?

>No I haven't been tested but I have not been on this long

term.....unless you consider 2 months long term.

If I continued on high levels CLO for many months than I would get

tested.

And as to the money CLO is really one of the cheapter supplements I

use. It's had the most dramatic effect on my health of anything I've

ever tried so I could hardly say I'm throwing away money. I buy it

bulk for about 15.00 a bottle.

I use butter oil for arthritis and it also is extremely effective.

I've been using it for 2 years. It's very expensive but far better

than an artifical ankle or a fused ankle which is what I'm " supposed

to have " by this point in my life.

> can email Dr. Vieth and to get his thougts on taking amounts higher

> than 10,000 IU a day if there are still questions about possbile

> benefit.

---> Yes it would be interesting to hear what he says on this as

well as any of Krispin Sullivan new research.

Lynn

August 19, 2004

Lynn,

Sorry I haven't been following this thread, but I have a question for

you - You are using butter oil for arthritis. Is this rheumatoid or

osteo arthritis? And do you take any prescription drugs for it? My

DH is on methotrexate and plaquenil and occasional naproxin (as

needed for pain and inflammation). I keep thinking that somewhere in

the natural world God put foods that would help with diseases such as

arthritis. I'd be interested to know your story - how much butter

oil per day you use, etc.

Thanks,

Rhonda

> I use butter oil for arthritis and it also is extremely effective.

> I've been using it for 2 years. It's very expensive but far better

> than an artifical ankle or a fused ankle which is what

I'm " supposed

> to have " by this point in my life.

> Lynn

August 19, 2004

So, that's the way that God works? He creates diseases and then hides the

treatment somewhere in the natural world where it might be extremely difficult

to find? Sounds kind of sadistic to me...

-------------- Original message --------------

> Lynn,

> Sorry I haven't been following this thread, but I have a question for

> you - You are using butter oil for arthritis. Is this rheumatoid or

> osteo arthritis? And do you take any prescription drugs for it? My

> DH is on methotrexate and plaquenil and occasional naproxin (as

> needed for pain and inflammation). I keep thinking that somewhere in

> the natural world God put foods that would help with diseases such as

> arthritis. I'd be interested to know your story - how much butter

> oil per day you use, etc.

>

> Thanks,

> Rhonda

>

> > I use butter oil for arthritis and it also is extremely effective.

> > I've been using it for 2 years. It's very expensive but far better

> > than an artifical ankle or a fused ankle which is what

> I'm " supposed

> > to have " by this point in my life.

> > Lynn

>

August 19, 2004

> arthritis. I'd be interested to know your story - how much butter

> oil per day you use, etc.

---> Forgot to mention this. I personally use 2 tsp/day. That seems

to be the amount needed to prevent pain for me. I've talked with

Wetzel of www.greenpasture.org about this and he says it can

really vary from person to person. He recommends 1/2 tsp to start

with but some people take 2 TBSP. Yikes that would kill my budget!

I also use high quality raw butter to help supplement this.

Lynn

August 19, 2004

I really don't want to get into a theological debate here but God

didn't create diseases, the fall of man did. God made a perfect

world that man has messed up royally. (Go back and read the 1st

chapter of Genesis where everything that God made was declared as

GOOD!) Our getting back to God-made foods and away from man-made

foods is IMHO a very large part of getting/remaining healthy.

Rhonda

> > > I use butter oil for arthritis and it also is extremely

effective.

> > > I've been using it for 2 years. It's very expensive but far

better

> > > than an artifical ankle or a fused ankle which is what

> > I'm " supposed

> > > to have " by this point in my life.

> > > Lynn

> >

August 19, 2004

LOL! Whatever you want to believe...

-------------- Original message --------------

> I really don't want to get into a theological debate here but God

> didn't create diseases, the fall of man did. God made a perfect

> world that man has messed up royally. (Go back and read the 1st

> chapter of Genesis where everything that God made was declared as

> GOOD!) Our getting back to God-made foods and away from man-made

> foods is IMHO a very large part of getting/remaining healthy.

>

> Rhonda

>

> > > > I use butter oil for arthritis and it also is extremely

> effective.

> > > > I've been using it for 2 years. It's very expensive but far

> better

> > > > than an artifical ankle or a fused ankle which is what

> > > I'm " supposed

> > > > to have " by this point in my life.

> > > > Lynn

> > >

September 23, 2004

" It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter

is the glory of kings. " - Proverbs 25:2, NIV

God doesn't just spoon-feed all His wisdom to people. They have to

want to find it. He will work with people where they are, but they

have to be willing to work with Him, too. It's a relationship thing.

> > > I use butter oil for arthritis and it also is extremely

effective.

> > > I've been using it for 2 years. It's very expensive but far

better

> > > than an artifical ankle or a fused ankle which is what

> > I'm " supposed

> > > to have " by this point in my life.

> > > Lynn

> >

September 23, 2004

God created a perfect world, free of disease. When man erred by using his free

will to act out in disobedience in his attempt to make himself equal with God,

man opened the door to sickness, disease and death, both spiritual and physical.

(per Genesis chapters 1 thru 3)

But for people to reverse poor health, spiritual or physical, they need to LOOK

and LISTEN for help. " Not everybody has this gift this insight; it hasn't been

given to them. Whenever someone has a ready heart for this, the insights and

understandings flow freely. But if there is no readiness, any trace of

receptivity soon disappears. .... In their present state they can stare till

doomsday and not see it, listen till they're blue in the face and not get it.

..... Your ears are open but you don't hear a thing. Your eyes are awake but you

don't see a thing. The people are blockheads! They stick their fingers in

their ears so they won't have to listen; they screw their eyes shut so they

won't have to look, so they won't have to deal with me face-to-face and let me

heal them. " 13:11-15 MSG

How many times have you tried to talk to someone about changing their health

habits and they either don't understand (saturated fat can be good!) or they

aren't ready to make changes, so they make excuses. Later, when they're ready