Re: Re: Burning Fat for Energy- ?re: getting too skinny-

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In a message dated 8/26/04 2:13:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

dezinegal@... writes:

Mac's write-ups on ketogenic diets with carb-ups, but this would

totally screw up the whole point of going below 50g of carbs a day for

me, since I would be doing it for better blood sugar control vs. just

weight loss.

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Are you sure? Ketones increase insulin levels if the blood starts to become

acidic, so temporary lapses from ketosis might be the best route to maintain

stable insulin levels, perhaps.

Chris

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:11:16 -0700 (PDT)

<dezinegal@...> wrote:

> --- slethnobotanist@... wrote:

>

> > it takes

> > at

> > least six months to effectively make the transition. Until then

> > expect

> > fatigue until your body makes the switch.

>

> , did you have the low carb induction brain fog/fatigue? If so

> how long did yours last? And once it was over did you feel like you had

> more energy than before you started like a lot of people claim on the

> low carb forums?

No brain fog but definitely fatigue. Barry Groves says six months but I

recall not very long at all with me. But then again I was conditioning

for basketball, and with that type of training you develop endurance

even if feasting on Mcs all day, so I'm probably not a good

example.

Yes the energy level went up dramatically compared to the high carb

approach. The only thing comparable for me has been the Warrior Diet, in

fact it has even been better.

> > These days I prefer the Warrior Diet, but if I were to move back

> > along

> > the low carb line I think I would do the metabolic/anabolic diet,

> > where

> > you are very low carb all week and then completely reverse it for one

> > or

> > two days

>

> Yeah I've read about the carb-ups and refeeds that people are doing on

> the 2 days to replenish their glycogen stores and I've read Lyle

> Mac's write-ups on ketogenic diets with carb-ups, but this would

> totally screw up the whole point of going below 50g of carbs a day for

> me, since I would be doing it for better blood sugar control vs. just

> weight loss. Dr. Berstein advocates 30g of net carbs a day because you

> can use tiny amounts of insulin for each meal which cuts down on

> mismatches of insulin to food. It's his " law of small numbers " - a small

> injection = a potentially small mistake = less deviation from the

> target blood sugar or less wild hypo/hyper swings.

>

> ~

>

Not sure if this applies in your situation, but of the one or two days

of high carb, I never left ketosis.

Also a number of people have reported success in controlling blood sugar

problems with the Warrior Diet feasting/fasting approach, even though

such an approach seems counter-intuitive. I have yet to read the follow

up to the WD, Maximum Muscle Minimal Fat, which I think deals with the

science behind this.

Also I didn't do the Anabolic/Metabolic Diet for weight loss but rather

for muscle gain and better energy since I was dissatisfied with Atkins

low carbing as applied to high intensity athletics. But, to be quite

honest, my primary motivation was for better socializing on the weekends

regarding food :-)

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" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

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